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What are the actual "loopholes by the wealthy"? Standard deductions?
They're the same "loopholes" that every homeowner and parent gets.
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What are the actual "loopholes by the wealthy"? Standard deductions?
Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP
"Obama has said he wants Congress to end tax loopholes enjoyed mainly by the wealthy to buy lawmakers enough time to pass a budget but Republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts to reduce the $16 trillion national debt."
What is wrong with closing loopholes for the wealthy? Fair or not, it only makes it look like (or for some people it validates the argument), the GOP is shilling for the wealthy elites.
If the GOP wants cuts to programs let them name the cuts? Obama wanted taxes raise and he named the taxes he wanted raised. Why won't the GOP just be honest and open with the American people, and name the cuts they would hold America hostage for?
The latest game makes it look like they really want to force sequestration, while denying it is what they want to do. This way they get cuts without naming which ones they wanted. They are hedging bets -- betting against the American people, and betting that both parties and the President will share blame with the GOP.
This isn't governing, it's electioneering.
Dante
dD
Notice how all these mindless drones parrot the same misinformation. Woodward has been completely discredited by none other than Boner himself.Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP
"Obama has said he wants Congress to end tax loopholes enjoyed mainly by the wealthy to buy lawmakers enough time to pass a budget but Republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts to reduce the $16 trillion national debt."
What is wrong with closing loopholes for the wealthy? Fair or not, it only makes it look like (or for some people it validates the argument), the GOP is shilling for the wealthy elites.
If the GOP wants cuts to programs let them name the cuts? Obama wanted taxes raise and he named the taxes he wanted raised. Why won't the GOP just be honest and open with the American people, and name the cuts they would hold America hostage for?
The latest game makes it look like they really want to force sequestration, while denying it is what they want to do. This way they get cuts without naming which ones they wanted. They are hedging bets -- betting against the American people, and betting that both parties and the President will share blame with the GOP.
This isn't governing, it's electioneering.
Dante
dD
Sequestration: Blame goes to Obama admin. for thinking it up and now whining about its impact
“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger, Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.
The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book The Price of Politics shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.
Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.
Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, We didnt actually think it would be that hard to convince them Reid and the Republicans to adopt the sequester. It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
any questions?
DENY THIS BITCHNotice how all these mindless drones parrot the same misinformation. Woodward has been completely discredited by none other than Boner himself.Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP
"Obama has said he wants Congress to end tax loopholes enjoyed mainly by the wealthy to buy lawmakers enough time to pass a budget but Republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts to reduce the $16 trillion national debt."
What is wrong with closing loopholes for the wealthy? Fair or not, it only makes it look like (or for some people it validates the argument), the GOP is shilling for the wealthy elites.
If the GOP wants cuts to programs let them name the cuts? Obama wanted taxes raise and he named the taxes he wanted raised. Why won't the GOP just be honest and open with the American people, and name the cuts they would hold America hostage for?
The latest game makes it look like they really want to force sequestration, while denying it is what they want to do. This way they get cuts without naming which ones they wanted. They are hedging bets -- betting against the American people, and betting that both parties and the President will share blame with the GOP.
This isn't governing, it's electioneering.
Dante
dD
Sequestration: Blame goes to Obama admin. for thinking it up and now whining about its impact
There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger, Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.
The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book The Price of Politics shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.
Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.
Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, We didnt actually think it would be that hard to convince them Reid and the Republicans to adopt the sequester. It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
any questions?
Please explain if the White House thought it up on July 27th how did Boner post it on his website on July 25th??????
Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov
CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING
The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011
I'm saying that July 25 comes before July 27.What's the date on that, Rebecca?
PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts
Woodwards reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obamas White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.
Bitch are you saying the left leaning politifact is lying? Are you calling Woodward a liar?
Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP
"Obama has said he wants Congress to end tax loopholes enjoyed mainly by the wealthy to buy lawmakers enough time to pass a budget but Republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts to reduce the $16 trillion national debt."
What is wrong with closing loopholes for the wealthy? Fair or not, it only makes it look like (or for some people it validates the argument), the GOP is shilling for the wealthy elites.
If the GOP wants cuts to programs let them name the cuts? Obama wanted taxes raise and he named the taxes he wanted raised. Why won't the GOP just be honest and open with the American people, and name the cuts they would hold America hostage for?
The latest game makes it look like they really want to force sequestration, while denying it is what they want to do. This way they get cuts without naming which ones they wanted. They are hedging bets -- betting against the American people, and betting that both parties and the President will share blame with the GOP.
This isn't governing, it's electioneering.
Dante
dD
Sequestration: Blame goes to Obama admin. for thinking it up and now whining about its impact
“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”
The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.
Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.
Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, “We didn’t actually think it would be that hard to convince them” — Reid and the Republicans — to adopt the sequester. “It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.”
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
any questions?
The same dishonestly edited video, parroted by the same dishonest Misinformation Voter. So tell me what did Obama say immediately after your snippet ends that had to be dishonestly edited out?DENY THIS BITCHNotice how all these mindless drones parrot the same misinformation. Woodward has been completely discredited by none other than Boner himself.Sequestration: Blame goes to Obama admin. for thinking it up and now whining about its impact
There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger, Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.
The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book The Price of Politics shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.
Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.
Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, We didnt actually think it would be that hard to convince them Reid and the Republicans to adopt the sequester. It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
any questions?
Please explain if the White House thought it up on July 27th how did Boner post it on his website on July 25th??????
Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov
CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING
The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg]Flashback: Obama promises veto stopgap alternative to sequester cuts - YouTube[/ame]
I'm saying that July 25 comes before July 27.What's the date on that, Rebecca?
Bitch are you saying the left leaning politifact is lying? Are you calling Woodward a liar?
Are you disputing that?
As usual, you are wrong. Obamaturd made the deal with Mitchell in 2011. Now he wants to raise taxes breaking the deal. Obamaturd is LYING as usual. But keep on supporting the fool. IDIOT!!!Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP
"Obama has said he wants Congress to end tax loopholes enjoyed mainly by the wealthy to buy lawmakers enough time to pass a budget but Republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts to reduce the $16 trillion national debt."
What is wrong with closing loopholes for the wealthy? Fair or not, it only makes it look like (or for some people it validates the argument), the GOP is shilling for the wealthy elites.
If the GOP wants cuts to programs let them name the cuts? Obama wanted taxes raise and he named the taxes he wanted raised. Why won't the GOP just be honest and open with the American people, and name the cuts they would hold America hostage for?
The latest game makes it look like they really want to force sequestration, while denying it is what they want to do. This way they get cuts without naming which ones they wanted. They are hedging bets -- betting against the American people, and betting that both parties and the President will share blame with the GOP.
This isn't governing, it's electioneering.
Dante
dD
A libtard speaking the truth calling obamaturd a liar in which he is, how quaint.I'm saying that July 25 comes before July 27.Bitch are you saying the left leaning politifact is lying? Are you calling Woodward a liar?
Are you disputing that?
Are you now calling obama a liar?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg]Flashback: Obama promises veto stopgap alternative to sequester cuts - YouTube[/ame]
No, I'm calling you a fucking idiot.I'm saying that July 25 comes before July 27.Bitch are you saying the left leaning politifact is lying? Are you calling Woodward a liar?
Are you disputing that?
Are you now calling obama a liar?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg]Flashback: Obama promises veto stopgap alternative to sequester cuts - YouTube[/ame]
What fucking edit are you talking about?The same dishonestly edited video, parroted by the same dishonest Misinformation Voter. So tell me what did Obama say immediately after your snippet ends that had to be dishonestly edited out?DENY THIS BITCHNotice how all these mindless drones parrot the same misinformation. Woodward has been completely discredited by none other than Boner himself.
Please explain if the White House thought it up on July 27th how did Boner post it on his website on July 25th??????
Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov
CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING
The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg]Flashback: Obama promises veto stopgap alternative to sequester cuts - YouTube[/ame]
Let's see if a typical Misinformation Voter can figure out something for himself. I'm betting you can't!
No, I'm calling you a fucking idiot.I'm saying that July 25 comes before July 27.
Are you disputing that?
Are you now calling obama a liar?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg]Flashback: Obama promises veto stopgap alternative to sequester cuts - YouTube[/ame]
As I predicted, the Misinformation Voter cannot figure anything out for themself even when handed to them on a silver platter.What fucking edit are you talking about?The same dishonestly edited video, parroted by the same dishonest Misinformation Voter. So tell me what did Obama say immediately after your snippet ends that had to be dishonestly edited out?
Let's see if a typical Misinformation Voter can figure out something for himself. I'm betting you can't!
[ame=http://youtu.be/VxegPMvxgEA]President Obama Super Committee Statement (November 21, 2011) - YouTube[/ame]
We need to keep the pressure up to compromise -- not turn off the pressure. The only way these spending cuts will not take place is if Congress gets back to work and agrees on a balanced plan to reduce the deficit by at least $1.2 trillion. Thats exactly what they need to do. Thats the job they promised to do. And they've still got a year to figure it out.
Although Congress has not come to an agreement yet, nothing prevents them from coming up with an agreement in the days ahead. They can still come together around a balanced plan. I believe Democrats are prepared to do so. My expectation is, is that there will be some Republicans who are still interested in preventing the automatic cuts from taking place. And, as I have from the beginning, I stand ready and willing to work with anybody thats ready to engage in that effort to create a balanced plan for deficit reduction.
As I predicted, the Misinformation Voter cannot figure anything out for themself even when handed to them on a silver platter.What fucking edit are you talking about?The same dishonestly edited video, parroted by the same dishonest Misinformation Voter. So tell me what did Obama say immediately after your snippet ends that had to be dishonestly edited out?
Let's see if a typical Misinformation Voter can figure out something for himself. I'm betting you can't!
[ame=http://youtu.be/VxegPMvxgEA]President Obama Super Committee Statement (November 21, 2011) - YouTube[/ame]
Since it was too difficult for you to follow the words on the video, here is a transcript of what came immediately after the GOP's dishonestly edited snippet you swallowed whole.
We need to keep the pressure up to compromise -- not turn off the pressure. The only way these spending cuts will not take place is if Congress gets back to work and agrees on a balanced plan to reduce the deficit by at least $1.2 trillion. Thats exactly what they need to do. Thats the job they promised to do. And they've still got a year to figure it out.
Although Congress has not come to an agreement yet, nothing prevents them from coming up with an agreement in the days ahead. They can still come together around a balanced plan. I believe Democrats are prepared to do so. My expectation is, is that there will be some Republicans who are still interested in preventing the automatic cuts from taking place. And, as I have from the beginning, I stand ready and willing to work with anybody thats ready to engage in that effort to create a balanced plan for deficit reduction.
Notice how all these mindless drones parrot the same misinformation. Woodward has been completely discredited by none other than Boner himself.Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP
"Obama has said he wants Congress to end tax loopholes enjoyed mainly by the wealthy to buy lawmakers enough time to pass a budget but Republicans are insisting on deeper spending cuts to reduce the $16 trillion national debt."
What is wrong with closing loopholes for the wealthy? Fair or not, it only makes it look like (or for some people it validates the argument), the GOP is shilling for the wealthy elites.
If the GOP wants cuts to programs let them name the cuts? Obama wanted taxes raise and he named the taxes he wanted raised. Why won't the GOP just be honest and open with the American people, and name the cuts they would hold America hostage for?
The latest game makes it look like they really want to force sequestration, while denying it is what they want to do. This way they get cuts without naming which ones they wanted. They are hedging bets -- betting against the American people, and betting that both parties and the President will share blame with the GOP.
This isn't governing, it's electioneering.
Dante
dD
Sequestration: Blame goes to Obama admin. for thinking it up and now whining about its impact
“There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger,” Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It “was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure.”
The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book “The Price of Politics” shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.
Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.
Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, “We didn’t actually think it would be that hard to convince them” — Reid and the Republicans — to adopt the sequester. “It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table.”
Bob Woodward: Obama?s sequester deal-changer - The Washington Post
any questions?
Please explain if the White House thought it up on July 27th how did Boner post it on his website on July 25th??????
Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov
CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING
The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.
John Boehner, July 25, 2011
As I predicted, the Misinformation Voter cannot figure anything out for themself even when handed to them on a silver platter.What fucking edit are you talking about?The same dishonestly edited video, parroted by the same dishonest Misinformation Voter. So tell me what did Obama say immediately after your snippet ends that had to be dishonestly edited out?
Let's see if a typical Misinformation Voter can figure out something for himself. I'm betting you can't!
[ame=http://youtu.be/VxegPMvxgEA]President Obama Super Committee Statement (November 21, 2011) - YouTube[/ame]
Since it was too difficult for you to follow the words on the video, here is a transcript of what came immediately after the GOP's dishonestly edited snippet you swallowed whole.
We need to keep the pressure up to compromise -- not turn off the pressure. The only way these spending cuts will not take place is if Congress gets back to work and agrees on a balanced plan to reduce the deficit by at least $1.2 trillion. Thats exactly what they need to do. Thats the job they promised to do. And they've still got a year to figure it out.
Although Congress has not come to an agreement yet, nothing prevents them from coming up with an agreement in the days ahead. They can still come together around a balanced plan. I believe Democrats are prepared to do so. My expectation is, is that there will be some Republicans who are still interested in preventing the automatic cuts from taking place. And, as I have from the beginning, I stand ready and willing to work with anybody thats ready to engage in that effort to create a balanced plan for deficit reduction.
As I predicted, the Misinformation Voter cannot figure anything out for themself even when handed to them on a silver platter.What fucking edit are you talking about?The same dishonestly edited video, parroted by the same dishonest Misinformation Voter. So tell me what did Obama say immediately after your snippet ends that had to be dishonestly edited out?
Let's see if a typical Misinformation Voter can figure out something for himself. I'm betting you can't!
[ame=http://youtu.be/VxegPMvxgEA]President Obama Super Committee Statement (November 21, 2011) - YouTube[/ame]
Since it was too difficult for you to follow the words on the video, here is a transcript of what came immediately after the GOP's dishonestly edited snippet you swallowed whole.
We need to keep the pressure up to compromise -- not turn off the pressure. The only way these spending cuts will not take place is if Congress gets back to work and agrees on a balanced plan to reduce the deficit by at least $1.2 trillion. Thats exactly what they need to do. Thats the job they promised to do. And they've still got a year to figure it out.
Although Congress has not come to an agreement yet, nothing prevents them from coming up with an agreement in the days ahead. They can still come together around a balanced plan. I believe Democrats are prepared to do so. My expectation is, is that there will be some Republicans who are still interested in preventing the automatic cuts from taking place. And, as I have from the beginning, I stand ready and willing to work with anybody thats ready to engage in that effort to create a balanced plan for deficit reduction.