serious question on core Jewish belief

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At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

 

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At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

 

[surada]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

 

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At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

 

[surada]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

 

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At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

What’s the context of the verse?
When Arhnald eliminates the bad guy, everyone cheers him on.

 

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The story of Abraham and his descendents is found in the book of Genesis. We first meet him in Genesis chapter 11, although at this stage his name is Abram. There is very little biographical detail about him apart from the fact that he was a shepherd and came from Ur in Mesopotamia - modern day Iraq - after which he and his family moved, with his father Terah, to Haran.

This is a polytheistic age, an age when people believed in and worshipped many gods. Yet within this atmosphere, Abram answers the call of God and it is because of this that he accepts and realises the reality of there being only one true God.

In the Jewish tradition called Midrash (a Hebrew word which means 'interpretation' and relates to the way readings or biblical verses are understood), there are a number of stories about Abraham smashing his father's idols when he realises that there can be only one God of heaven and earth. It doesn't matter whether the stories are true or not. They acknowledge that Abraham was the first person to recognise and worship the one God. And so, monotheism was born.

BBC - Religions - Judaism: Abraham

Abraham is regarded by Jews as the first Patriarch of the Jewish people. This article examines his life, times and significance.

www.bbc.co.uk

There was NO Ur of the Chaldeans in Abraham's time. He was from Urfa near Haran.

Ur of the Chaldeans

Do you know what this means?

Yep and it didn't exist during Abraham's time. See the geology. Further, the cities of the plain were long gone before Abraham and Lot.

I just Googled it and you are, as usual, full of shit.

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.
Abraham's Ur - Accuracy in Genesis
www.accuracyingenesis.com/ur.html

In your book everything that corresponds to the Torah is anachronistic, or a poor translation, even though self-hating Jewish archeologists are constantly confirming the verses.
You are one hateful bitch.

I am a big follower of the Israeli archeologists especially Israel Finklestein.. He's brilliant.

As for Ur of the Chaldeans:

“Ur of the Chaldeans” (Gen 11:28-31)

https://drbarrick.org/files/papers/other/Chaldeans_Natl_2007.pdf

Barrick, Chaldeans 2 A later editor or scribe was aware of more than one city called “Ur” in the ancient Near East. Since the Chaldeans did not exist in the ancient world until nearly a thousand years after

Do you know who Rabbi Moshe (Moses) Maimonides is?
If you do, you’re an idiot.
If you don’t you will drop dead when you look him up.

 

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At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

What the Torah demands is way beyond the “Moral” Code.

 

[Indeependent]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

So a city that habitually murders their neighbors should not be destroyed.
Context is everything.

 

[ding]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

 

[surada]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

What the Torah demands is way beyond the “Moral” Code.

And it did set them apart to maintain their identity.. but most religions have similar rules in parallel.

Ten Commandments, Golden Rule are pretty much universal.

 

[surada]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

Well, maybe not.. The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi for example. We also know much more about the old Canaanite religion now. The Hebrews borrowed many Psalms from them.

 

[Meriweather]

I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point.

Loved the video! But yes, I agree it is part historical, and I've also long been of the opinion that we see the (historical) struggle between two Jewish 'political' parties that I think of as the Priestly Party and the Political Party. The priestly party seems gung-ho on keeping the people entirely separated from other populations, whereas the more political party seems more open to living among others. It is easy to see the Priestly Party's concern: That living among others bring other ways that might very well be adopted by the Jewish people. They may forget their responsibility of being a light to all nations by living the Law, especially when they see others doing very well--even profiting by not keeping so many laws. The political party sees no problem with getting along with others and living among them.

I love the metaphor Father Barron (and early Church Fathers) see about beating evil to the ground and not keeping a portion of it with which to play around. All of us can relate to that, even today--which means it is also something our ancestors could also relate to easily because the more we change the more we remain the same.

 

[ding]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

Well, maybe not.. The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi for example. We also know much more about the old Canaanite religion now. The Hebrews borrowed many Psalms from them.

Or vice versa.

 

[surada]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

Well, maybe not.. The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi for example. We also know much more about the old Canaanite religion now. The Hebrews borrowed many Psalms from them.

Or vice versa.

Vice versa what? They all predate the Jewish people.

 

[ding]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

Well, maybe not.. The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi for example. We also know much more about the old Canaanite religion now. The Hebrews borrowed many Psalms from them.

Or vice versa.

Vice versa what? They all predate the Jewish people.

I think I'll need a little more than your say so on both accounts.

 

[surada]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

Well, maybe not.. The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi for example. We also know much more about the old Canaanite religion now. The Hebrews borrowed many Psalms from them.

Or vice versa.

Vice versa what? They all predate the Jewish people.

I think I'll need a little more than your say so on both accounts.

That's not a hard one.. They are a thousand years eaarlier like Sumer and Dilmun.

 

[ding]

At its root, it refers to the core Jewish belief that the Creator of the Universe also has a special and unique relationship with His chosen people."

According to scripture and Jewish tradition, God wished to have a people who placed themselves apart from others to live by a more austere code than other nations. The rest of us could live by a more relaxed code of our own choosing. God wasn't abandoning either group.

Why would any universal God demand what is, frankly, xenophobia from just one tribe (and the enslavement or genocide of all the others?) It is the opposite of a universal God. It is a tribal god and a particularly blood-thirsty one.

Provide a quote from Tanach.

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: Deut 7:16

You do realize this is embellishment, right? You make the same mistake evangelicals make. You read this literally. C'mon man, don't make me revoke your membership from the adult club.

Embellishment? "Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them" is embellishment? No, Dingles, embellishment would be something like, "Thou shalt smite them as your fathers smote, riding across the desert at a full gallop in drag, and utterly destroy them and turn them into blood mist and bestow upon them their very own Holocaust story."

Thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them means thou shalt smite them and utterly destroy them. A command by your God. Actually it is you who sounds like a fundamentalist. Every time they come to a blatant contradiction like page 1: God loves mankind, page 2: God incinerates mankind because some dude wore a dress, the fundamentalists all cry in unison, it was a different dispensation, a word which means "this contradiction is hereby defined as not a contradiction". you just use "embellishment" instead of "dispensation"

Holy smoke, so you believe God smote the enemies of the Jews? That's it. Your card to the adult club has been revoked, you fundie.

Don't look at me. It's your Bible:

And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took. Deut 2:33-35

Of course I'm going to look at you. You are the one reading the bible like an idiot.

Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

How's that for some Class A viciousness? Picture it, so your latest genocide is drawing to a close. It's taken non-stop solid days of slaughter in the city to put all the men, women, and children to the sword and dash all the babies' heads against the rocks. You and the boys are tired, but it's a good kind of tired and you want nothing more than lay back, eat these peoples food and force their daughters to pleasure you before you kill them, too, but you know there are still some survivors hiding in terror in hard to reach places. But when God says "utterly destroy", he means "utterly destroy" so you dare not stop yet. But then, do you have a great God or what? Those people who were hiding in terror from you? haha, God sent hornets in to drive them out of their hiding places so you could quickly and easily finish them off and get to raping--the fun part. Moreover the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. Deut 7:20

I'll bet Israel has a drone right now called Hornet and it will be used to track people down.

Interesting video. He's saying that the tales of violence are about breaking the seal (understanding?) of the violence as being about being all in against sin?

He said if we read the Bible and take away from it that violence is good or that God is hateful and capricious then we have misread the Bible. We must read the Bible from the standpoint of the Lamb; meek and weakened. Only then will the OT make sense. He says the tales are metaphors - that the people of that time would have been comfortable with - for how we should attack sin.

That does make sense, but it has been so widely misunderstood that it opens the doors to theft and killing for the past 2500 years.

Maybe. I'm still undecided. I think it may have been part embellishment, part historical and part metaphorical. In other words an embellishment on the historical aspect that was used to make a metaphorical point. I agree with what he said about how to approach reading the Bible but I also think we have to read it in totality. For example, according to Huston Smith the moral practices - which may be viewed as inferior to modern day practices - were heads and shoulders above their contemporaries ( a point you have disputed in the past). I accept Smith's contention because so much of modern society was built on Judaic law. My point is that if we assume Smith was correct, then we should look for deeper meaning in passages that trouble us by today's standards.

I agree totally that misunderstanding - by placing too much emphasis on literal interpretations that we have little understanding of the original intent of the authors - has caused great injustices and wrongs to be rationalized as rights.

Disputed in the past? Me? Are you saying the contemporaries of the ancient Jews were NOT moral? Israel has a long, long history of demonizing their neighbors.

If historically people have completely missed the point made by the priest, I think the fault lies in the text.

I am saying you disputed there was a difference. Huston Smith disagrees. I believe his words were "laws and practices that were heads and shoulders above its neighbors."

Well, maybe not.. The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi for example. We also know much more about the old Canaanite religion now. The Hebrews borrowed many Psalms from them.

Or vice versa.

Vice versa what? They all predate the Jewish people.

I think I'll need a little more than your say so on both accounts.

That's not a hard one.. They are a thousand years eaarlier like Sumer and Dilmun.

Show me. Show me the timelines. And include the timeline for the Hebrews.

 

[hobelim]

And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."

"Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them"

"Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant."

"Just art thou, in these thy judgment, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."




Are you a mangod eater? Do you pray to him? Do you love Jesus? Is he your God and savior? Do you read the bible? I heard that Jesus was ruthless to his enemies.

Your problem isn't with the Jewish people. Your problem is with yourself, with God, and apparently Jesus too.

Looks like God said fuck you to the nations and so did Jesus when he said, "Eat this."

Take some responsibility. Blame yourself. You are after all, just another lily white cur.

Should someone feel sorry for you being left outside by God in a fenced yard all night long ? Thems the breaks bro.

Can I get an arf arf?

 

[ding]

And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2

"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."

"Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them"

"Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant."

"Just art thou, in these thy judgment, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."




Are you a Jesus eater? Do you pray to him? Is he your God and savior? Do you read the bible?

Your problem isn't with the Jewish people. Your problem is with yourself, with God, and apparently Jesus too.

Looks like God said fuck you to the nations and so did Jesus when he said, "Eat this."

Take some responsibility. Blame yourself. You are after all, just another lily white cur.

Should someone feel sorry for you being left outside by God in a fenced yard all night long ?

Is this an example of you not giving a crap about religion and not caring in the least?

I don't give a crap about religion dufus. Eat Jesus for the rest of your life and be a mark for every con man out there. I don't care in the least.