serious question on core Jewish belief

[Clyde 154]

Simple answer to a simple question: "Chosen People...aka, the Chosen of God" is not a form of supremacy in the least

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN
(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

Jewish population by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV) When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV) In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV) And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

The term "stranger" is used 128 times in the KJV of the bible​

(Jer 14:8 KJV) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(The above occurred in 1947ad)​

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

the truth will set you free
-​

Do you know what "half a truth" constitutes? A WHOLE LIE. When you cherry pick passages while omitting the entire historical timeline that is found to exist when one studies THE ENTIRE WORD OF GOD.....you are not teaching TRUTH.

How does one become approved unto God? One must "rightly divide" the word of TRUTH....aka the scriptures. ".......Be diligent to present yourself approved of God, a worker who need not be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH...........................................................THE LORD KNOWS THOSE WHO ARE HIS and LET EVERYONE WHO NAMES THE NAME OF CHRIST DEPART FROM INQUITY." (2 Tim. 2:14-19)

Its true that some JEWS think they are the one and only CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD......but the truth found in scripture does not conclude with such thinking being a reality.

There where conditions placed upon the JEWS of HISTORICAL ISREAL by Father God in remaining THE CHOSEN of GOD. God makes it clear in order to remain THE CHOSEN.......HIS PEOPLE must abide by and keep God's covenants (agreement between man and God)......if the covenant that is in effect is not followed.......God turn's HIS face away from those LAWBREAKERS. "Now therefore "IF" you will indeed obey MY VOICE and KEEP MY COVENANT, then you shall be a special treasure to ME above all people; for all the earth is MINE." -- Ex. 19:5

God never promised that only ONE race of people would be exclusive as THE CHOSEN for eternity..........THE PROMISE remains in effect only to those who OBEY the voice of God. The JEWS of Biblical Israel did not keep their part of the covenant (particularly when they rejected God's only begotten Son)....then Biblical Israel ceased to exist, it was destroyed by the Roman Empire in the first century (removed from the face of the earth).......

Today, THE CHOSEN are those who OBEY THE VOICE OF GOD, as explained with no ambiguity in Gal. 3.

The Apostle Peter makes it clear just who are the CHOOSEN today, "But you (the Christian) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, HIS OWN SPECIAL PEOPLE...........(1 Peter 2:9-10)

The new covenant of Christ (God's Voice) was taught exclusively to the JEWS for 10 years after Christ's death.........the JEWS had the opportunity (just as they have today) to obey the voice of God before the first gentile adoption into the bloodline of father Abraham.

Can any JEW be saved today? Of course........by simply hearing and obeying the voice of God. The nation calling itself ISRAEL today.....is a fake, a counterfeit and in no way compares to Biblical Israel. Do I support Israel? Of course.....not because of some errant false interpretation of expecting a promise never made to be fulfilled.........I support Israel because that nation has been an ally of the free people's of the U.S. since its inception after WW2, its the only reflection at any hint of democracy in a part of the world that is nothing but a cesspool of despotism, dictatorship and terrorism, I support Israel because its the only foothold of freedom and democracy in that critical part of the world. Not because they are CHOSEN, there can be only one truth. There can be any number of lies but only one truth. Either you believe and accept the entire word of God or you do not.

This ally betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ..

Hardly..........its was the leftist organization called the UNITED NATIONS (one world order advocates) that have betrayed the free republics of the world. You can deflect by attempting to inject personal politics into a form of argument....but that straw argument self ignites.

Again......Israel is the only resemblance of a democracy to be found in the cesspool called the middle east, its surrounded by ignorant 13th century ideologies that still practice slavery and beheadings today.

My only concern is relaying the TRUTH recorded in the Holy Scriptures. There are many examples of current American allies that have stood at a 180degree opposition to the United States in the past and some that are now considered opposition that stood side by side with the US. Examples, England, France, Russia, China, Japan, Cuba.......

politics change..........TRUTH does not. The truth revealed in this thread is the omission of the entire history recorded in the Holy Bible. What stops ISRAEL from turning a great part of the middle east into a radioactive parking lot? Israel is protected by a nuclear arsenal. Yet it chooses to restrain itself..........Can you say the same about Israel's neighbors? If certain nations were to lay their hands on a nuclear devise..........Jerusalem would be dust.

 

[surada]

Simple answer to a simple question: "Chosen People...aka, the Chosen of God" is not a form of supremacy in the least

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN
(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

Jewish population by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV) When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV) In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV) And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

The term "stranger" is used 128 times in the KJV of the bible​

(Jer 14:8 KJV) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(The above occurred in 1947ad)​

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

the truth will set you free
-​

Do you know what "half a truth" constitutes? A WHOLE LIE. When you cherry pick passages while omitting the entire historical timeline that is found to exist when one studies THE ENTIRE WORD OF GOD.....you are not teaching TRUTH.

How does one become approved unto God? One must "rightly divide" the word of TRUTH....aka the scriptures. ".......Be diligent to present yourself approved of God, a worker who need not be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH...........................................................THE LORD KNOWS THOSE WHO ARE HIS and LET EVERYONE WHO NAMES THE NAME OF CHRIST DEPART FROM INQUITY." (2 Tim. 2:14-19)

Its true that some JEWS think they are the one and only CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD......but the truth found in scripture does not conclude with such thinking being a reality.

There where conditions placed upon the JEWS of HISTORICAL ISREAL by Father God in remaining THE CHOSEN of GOD. God makes it clear in order to remain THE CHOSEN.......HIS PEOPLE must abide by and keep God's covenants (agreement between man and God)......if the covenant that is in effect is not followed.......God turn's HIS face away from those LAWBREAKERS. "Now therefore "IF" you will indeed obey MY VOICE and KEEP MY COVENANT, then you shall be a special treasure to ME above all people; for all the earth is MINE." -- Ex. 19:5

God never promised that only ONE race of people would be exclusive as THE CHOSEN for eternity..........THE PROMISE remains in effect only to those who OBEY the voice of God. The JEWS of Biblical Israel did not keep their part of the covenant (particularly when they rejected God's only begotten Son)....then Biblical Israel ceased to exist, it was destroyed by the Roman Empire in the first century (removed from the face of the earth).......

Today, THE CHOSEN are those who OBEY THE VOICE OF GOD, as explained with no ambiguity in Gal. 3.

The Apostle Peter makes it clear just who are the CHOOSEN today, "But you (the Christian) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, HIS OWN SPECIAL PEOPLE...........(1 Peter 2:9-10)

The new covenant of Christ (God's Voice) was taught exclusively to the JEWS for 10 years after Christ's death.........the JEWS had the opportunity (just as they have today) to obey the voice of God before the first gentile adoption into the bloodline of father Abraham.

Can any JEW be saved today? Of course........by simply hearing and obeying the voice of God. The nation calling itself ISRAEL today.....is a fake, a counterfeit and in no way compares to Biblical Israel. Do I support Israel? Of course.....not because of some errant false interpretation of expecting a promise never made to be fulfilled.........I support Israel because that nation has been an ally of the free people's of the U.S. since its inception after WW2, its the only reflection at any hint of democracy in a part of the world that is nothing but a cesspool of despotism, dictatorship and terrorism, I support Israel because its the only foothold of freedom and democracy in that critical part of the world. Not because they are CHOSEN, there can be only one truth. There can be any number of lies but only one truth. Either you believe and accept the entire word of God or you do not.

This ally betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ..

Hardly..........its was the leftist organization called the UNITED NATIONS (one world order advocates) that have betrayed the free republics of the world. You can deflect by attempting to inject personal politics into a form of argument....but that straw argument self ignites.

Again......Israel is the only resemblance of a democracy to be found in the cesspool called the middle east, its surrounded by ignorant 13th century ideologies that still practice slavery and beheadings today.

You have never been to the Middle East, have you?

 

[Clyde 154]

Simple answer to a simple question: "Chosen People...aka, the Chosen of God" is not a form of supremacy in the least

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN
(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

Jewish population by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV) When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV) In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV) And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

The term "stranger" is used 128 times in the KJV of the bible​

(Jer 14:8 KJV) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(The above occurred in 1947ad)​

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

the truth will set you free
-​

Do you know what "half a truth" constitutes? A WHOLE LIE. When you cherry pick passages while omitting the entire historical timeline that is found to exist when one studies THE ENTIRE WORD OF GOD.....you are not teaching TRUTH.

How does one become approved unto God? One must "rightly divide" the word of TRUTH....aka the scriptures. ".......Be diligent to present yourself approved of God, a worker who need not be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH...........................................................THE LORD KNOWS THOSE WHO ARE HIS and LET EVERYONE WHO NAMES THE NAME OF CHRIST DEPART FROM INQUITY." (2 Tim. 2:14-19)

Its true that some JEWS think they are the one and only CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD......but the truth found in scripture does not conclude with such thinking being a reality.

There where conditions placed upon the JEWS of HISTORICAL ISREAL by Father God in remaining THE CHOSEN of GOD. God makes it clear in order to remain THE CHOSEN.......HIS PEOPLE must abide by and keep God's covenants (agreement between man and God)......if the covenant that is in effect is not followed.......God turn's HIS face away from those LAWBREAKERS. "Now therefore "IF" you will indeed obey MY VOICE and KEEP MY COVENANT, then you shall be a special treasure to ME above all people; for all the earth is MINE." -- Ex. 19:5

God never promised that only ONE race of people would be exclusive as THE CHOSEN for eternity..........THE PROMISE remains in effect only to those who OBEY the voice of God. The JEWS of Biblical Israel did not keep their part of the covenant (particularly when they rejected God's only begotten Son)....then Biblical Israel ceased to exist, it was destroyed by the Roman Empire in the first century (removed from the face of the earth).......

Today, THE CHOSEN are those who OBEY THE VOICE OF GOD, as explained with no ambiguity in Gal. 3.

The Apostle Peter makes it clear just who are the CHOOSEN today, "But you (the Christian) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, HIS OWN SPECIAL PEOPLE...........(1 Peter 2:9-10)

The new covenant of Christ (God's Voice) was taught exclusively to the JEWS for 10 years after Christ's death.........the JEWS had the opportunity (just as they have today) to obey the voice of God before the first gentile adoption into the bloodline of father Abraham.

Can any JEW be saved today? Of course........by simply hearing and obeying the voice of God. The nation calling itself ISRAEL today.....is a fake, a counterfeit and in no way compares to Biblical Israel. Do I support Israel? Of course.....not because of some errant false interpretation of expecting a promise never made to be fulfilled.........I support Israel because that nation has been an ally of the free people's of the U.S. since its inception after WW2, its the only reflection at any hint of democracy in a part of the world that is nothing but a cesspool of despotism, dictatorship and terrorism, I support Israel because its the only foothold of freedom and democracy in that critical part of the world. Not because they are CHOSEN, there can be only one truth. There can be any number of lies but only one truth. Either you believe and accept the entire word of God or you do not.

This ally betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ..

Hardly..........its was the leftist organization called the UNITED NATIONS (one world order advocates) that have betrayed the free republics of the world. You can deflect by attempting to inject personal politics into a form of argument....but that straw argument self ignites.

Again......Israel is the only resemblance of a democracy to be found in the cesspool called the middle east, its surrounded by ignorant 13th century ideologies that still practice slavery and beheadings today.

You have never been to the Middle East, have you?

Can we spell DEFLECTION? I have served 22 years in the military.

Why does one deflect? They have no reasoned argument. My personal history does not change TRUTH, nor is it any of your business. Why are the ones that freely choose to reveal everything about their personal lives........the very first to complain about another using that revealed information against them?

DEFLECTION: a twist/aberration made in a perverse manner to avoid the direction of a conversation.

 

[surada]

Simple answer to a simple question: "Chosen People...aka, the Chosen of God" is not a form of supremacy in the least

WHY THEY WERE CHOSEN
(Deu 7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu 7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu 7:8 KJV) But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh King of Egypt.

(Deu 7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu 7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

..According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."

Jewish population by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God

They were chosen to show us the way, to show us how to treat the stranger, how to be compassionate and loving to your neighbor and by doing so peace would envelope the world.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

(Deu 24:19 KJV) When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

(Ezek 22:7 KJV) In thee have they set light by father and mother: in the midst of thee have they dealt by oppression with the stranger: in thee have they vexed the fatherless and the widow.

(Exo 22:21 KJV) Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Exo 23:9 KJV) Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Lev 19:34 KJV) But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 25:35 KJV) And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.

The term "stranger" is used 128 times in the KJV of the bible​

(Jer 14:8 KJV) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

(The above occurred in 1947ad)​

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

(Ezekiel 21:32 (ASV) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I, Jehovah, have spoken it.

the truth will set you free
-​

Do you know what "half a truth" constitutes? A WHOLE LIE. When you cherry pick passages while omitting the entire historical timeline that is found to exist when one studies THE ENTIRE WORD OF GOD.....you are not teaching TRUTH.

How does one become approved unto God? One must "rightly divide" the word of TRUTH....aka the scriptures. ".......Be diligent to present yourself approved of God, a worker who need not be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH...........................................................THE LORD KNOWS THOSE WHO ARE HIS and LET EVERYONE WHO NAMES THE NAME OF CHRIST DEPART FROM INQUITY." (2 Tim. 2:14-19)

Its true that some JEWS think they are the one and only CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD......but the truth found in scripture does not conclude with such thinking being a reality.

There where conditions placed upon the JEWS of HISTORICAL ISREAL by Father God in remaining THE CHOSEN of GOD. God makes it clear in order to remain THE CHOSEN.......HIS PEOPLE must abide by and keep God's covenants (agreement between man and God)......if the covenant that is in effect is not followed.......God turn's HIS face away from those LAWBREAKERS. "Now therefore "IF" you will indeed obey MY VOICE and KEEP MY COVENANT, then you shall be a special treasure to ME above all people; for all the earth is MINE." -- Ex. 19:5

God never promised that only ONE race of people would be exclusive as THE CHOSEN for eternity..........THE PROMISE remains in effect only to those who OBEY the voice of God. The JEWS of Biblical Israel did not keep their part of the covenant (particularly when they rejected God's only begotten Son)....then Biblical Israel ceased to exist, it was destroyed by the Roman Empire in the first century (removed from the face of the earth).......

Today, THE CHOSEN are those who OBEY THE VOICE OF GOD, as explained with no ambiguity in Gal. 3.

The Apostle Peter makes it clear just who are the CHOOSEN today, "But you (the Christian) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, HIS OWN SPECIAL PEOPLE...........(1 Peter 2:9-10)

The new covenant of Christ (God's Voice) was taught exclusively to the JEWS for 10 years after Christ's death.........the JEWS had the opportunity (just as they have today) to obey the voice of God before the first gentile adoption into the bloodline of father Abraham.

Can any JEW be saved today? Of course........by simply hearing and obeying the voice of God. The nation calling itself ISRAEL today.....is a fake, a counterfeit and in no way compares to Biblical Israel. Do I support Israel? Of course.....not because of some errant false interpretation of expecting a promise never made to be fulfilled.........I support Israel because that nation has been an ally of the free people's of the U.S. since its inception after WW2, its the only reflection at any hint of democracy in a part of the world that is nothing but a cesspool of despotism, dictatorship and terrorism, I support Israel because its the only foothold of freedom and democracy in that critical part of the world. Not because they are CHOSEN, there can be only one truth. There can be any number of lies but only one truth. Either you believe and accept the entire word of God or you do not.

This ally betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ..

Hardly..........its was the leftist organization called the UNITED NATIONS (one world order advocates) that have betrayed the free republics of the world. You can deflect by attempting to inject personal politics into a form of argument....but that straw argument self ignites.

Again......Israel is the only resemblance of a democracy to be found in the cesspool called the middle east, its surrounded by ignorant 13th century ideologies that still practice slavery and beheadings today.

You have never been to the Middle East, have you?

Can we spell DEFLECTION? I have served 22 years in the military.

Why does one deflect? They have no reasoned argument. My personal history does not change TRUTH, nor is it any of your business. Why are the ones that freely choose to reveal everything about their personal lives........the very first to complain about another using that revealed information against them?

DEFLECTION:

A couple of short hitches in the military doesn't mean you know anything about the ME. Israel's history is bloody and ugly. The European refugees sought sanctuary when no other country would take them and visciously abused the people that had lived there for more than 2000 years.

 

[Indeependent]

So a city that habitually murders their neighbors should not be destroyed.
Context is everything.

"Cities" don't murder, knucklehead. And certainly their babies don't. Besides, there is never any justification given. The Levitical Judeans slaughtered on the grounds of "otherness", and that was it.

Face it, you worship a blood-thirsty, genocidal, maniacal, vicious, hateful, jealous, vengeful, contemptible, primitive, tribal god. It's right there in black and white in your fucking Bible. Is it any wonder after centuries of worshipping this murderous abomination it's produced a people who are universally hated and feared? The only thing beneath you are Christian Zionists, your doormats.

I was wondering why Jews, per capita, give way more charity than any other group.
You're upset because you love having sex with animals and other people's spouses.

 

[watchingfromafar]

I was wondering why Jews, per capita, give way more charity than any other group.

You speak of “Jews” as a group working for the same agenda, you are wrong; there are “Israeli Jews” and there are Jews who treat all others as one of their own. You belong to the former class of Jews.

You're upset because you love having sex with animals and other people's spouses.

As a friend I must advise you, never speak about your love of having sex with animals and other people's spouses. Unless this is a confession, is it-?
-

 

[Indeependent]

I was wondering why Jews, per capita, give way more charity than any other group.

You speak of “Jews” as a group working for the same agenda, you are wrong; there are “Israeli Jews” and there are Jews who treat all others as one of their own. You belong to the former class of Jews.

You're upset because you love having sex with animals and other people's spouses.

As a friend I must advise you, never speak about your love of having sex with animals and other people's spouses. Unless this is a confession, is it-?
-

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

 

[hobelim]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I find so many of Rebbe's quotes inspirational. I explained to some of my RCC friends the great difference is that in Chabad and Kabbalah, the Lord is OUT TO DO YOU GOOD!

Whatever happens is for your growth, for your souls journey

 

[ding]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or subsequently subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

Is this another example of you not giving a crap about religion?

 

[hobelim]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or subsequently subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

Is this another example of you not giving a crap about religion?

Yes.

It must be really hard for you to accept the fact that God has condemned the addled contents of your defiled and contaminated mind as unfit for human consumption.

Now everyone knows.

You do have my deepest sympathies.

 

[ding]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or subsequently subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

Is this another example of you not giving a crap about religion?

Yes.

It must be really hard for you to accept the fact that God has condemned the addled contents of your defiled and contaminated mind as unfit for human consumption.

Now everyone knows.

You do have my deepest sympathies.

It's hard to accept because that's not true. So, no. Not everyone knows. What they do know is that you are a crazy fucker condemning people to hell at the drop of a hat.

 

[Blues Man]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

 

[hobelim]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or subsequently subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

Is this another example of you not giving a crap about religion?

Yes.

It must be really hard for you to accept the fact that God has condemned the addled contents of your defiled and contaminated mind as unfit for human consumption.

Now everyone knows.

You do have my deepest sympathies.

It's hard to accept because that's not true. So, no. Not everyone knows. What they do know is that you are a crazy fucker condemning people to hell at the drop of a hat.

Wrong. It is the truth, the very truth.

How are you going to convince people that you are not the epitome of swine who do not ruminate when you keep on saying that I condemned you to hell after I have repeatedly told you in plain language that I have never condemned you or anyone to hell, not to mention your worship of three co-equal gods in one cracker insanity.

You openly and brazenly defy divine law by worshiping and seeking spiritual life on your knees before a lifeless matzo made by human hands.

Listen carefully. I will tell you something. You have your reward already!

YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL

 

[ding]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

 

[ding]

sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.

Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or subsequently subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.

Is this another example of you not giving a crap about religion?

Yes.

It must be really hard for you to accept the fact that God has condemned the addled contents of your defiled and contaminated mind as unfit for human consumption.

Now everyone knows.

You do have my deepest sympathies.

It's hard to accept because that's not true. So, no. Not everyone knows. What they do know is that you are a crazy fucker condemning people to hell at the drop of a hat.

Wrong. It is the truth, the very truth.

How are you going to convince people that you are not the epitome of swine who do not ruminate when you keep on saying that I condemned you to hell after I have repeatedly told you in plain language that I have never condemned you or anyone to hell?

You openly and brazenly defy divine law by worshiping and seeking spiritual life on your knees before a lifeless matzo made by human hands.

Listen carefully. I will tell you something.

YOU ARE ALREADY IN HELL

That sure sounds a lot like a crazy person condemning someone to hell and rationalizing that he didn't.

I love it when you pretend you aren't on a high horse looking down on others past your pointy crooked nose.

You make this so easy.

 

[Blues Man]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

 

[ding]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

 

[Blues Man]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

 

[ding]

GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.

I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?

God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?

Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.

But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?

I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.