serious question on core Jewish belief

It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The heretical movements of the Middle Ages were religious in character, but those in which socialist tendencies were especially pronounced were the ones that were irrevocably opposed to the actual religion professed by the majority at the time. Calls to assassinate the Pope and to annihilate all monks and priests run like a red thread through the history of these movements. Their hatred for the basic symbols of Christianity--the cross and the church--is very striking. We encounter the burning of crosses and the profanation of churches from the first centuries of Christianity right up to the present day.

Finally, in Plato's socialist system, religion is conceived as an element in the state's ideology. Its role amounts to education, the shaping of citizens' opinions into the forms necessary to the state. To this end, new religious observances and myths were invented and the old ones abolished. It seems that in many of the states of the ancient Orient, official religion played an analogous role, its central function being the deification of the king, who was the personification of the all-powerful state.

The Socialist Phenomenon
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
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You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
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really, are you that naive ...
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational perverse and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse. To continue in your sins after receiving knowledge of the truth you must make evil a deliberate choice. Now all you have is a terrifying expectation of judgment that you can never escape in this world or the next.

Not all of your billion catholic friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
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really, are you that naive ...
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
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If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.
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really -
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you truly are a sinner - denying the uninterrupted history of christianity, the desert religions only insures their unending repetition.

bringing to justice the crucifiers is all that is needed to resurrect the true 1st century religion of antiquity and the salvation of humanity.
OOOOOHHH GLORY-----I am so excited----who are the CRUCIFIERS? PLEASE NOTE------
EXCEPT FOR THE THREE WISE MEN (OF ORIENT) ------THERE WERE NO iRANIANS THERE
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OOOOOHHH GLORY-----I am so excited----who are the CRUCIFIERS?
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who voted for trump - i 91 ... you are one of them. what they have committed for centuries. uninterrupted.

they persecuted the adherents of 1st century liberation theology till the 4th century, the crucifiers then wrote their own - christian bible. bing.

birds of a feather flock together.
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
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If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.
.
really -
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View attachment 502121
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you truly are a sinner - denying the uninterrupted history of christianity, the desert religions only insures their unending repetition.

bringing to justice the crucifiers is all that is needed to resurrect the true 1st century religion of antiquity and the salvation of humanity.
OOOOOHHH GLORY-----I am so excited----who are the CRUCIFIERS? PLEASE NOTE------
EXCEPT FOR THE THREE WISE MEN (OF ORIENT) ------THERE WERE NO iRANIANS THERE
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OOOOOHHH GLORY-----I am so excited----who are the CRUCIFIERS?
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who voted for trump - i 91 ... you are one of them. what they have committed for centuries. uninterrupted.

they persecuted the adherents of 1st century liberation theology till the 4th century, the crucifiers then wrote their own - christian bible. bing.

birds of a feather flock together.
Tell me more. Please.
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
.
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?


I have not come to abolish but fulfill.
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
.
View attachment 501865
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?


I have not come to abolish but fulfill.
And I have come to oppose your fulfillment which is in reality an attempt to subordinate and abolish.
 
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GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
.
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the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
.
that is simply accomplished when their book of forgeries and fallacies is finally discarded, voluntarily as it deserves the christian bible.

the spoken religion of antiquity is only six words in length, that religion is eternal. good luck christian.

just find another fallacy to believe in - can't be any worse.
 
.
GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
.
View attachment 501865
.
the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
.
that is simply accomplished when their book of forgeries and fallacies is finally discarded, voluntarily as it deserves the christian bible.

the spoken religion of antiquity is only six words in length, that religion is eternal. good luck christian.

just find another fallacy to believe in - can't be any worse.
That's so interesting tell me more.
 
.
GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
.
View attachment 501865
.
the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
.
that is simply accomplished when their book of forgeries and fallacies is finally discarded, voluntarily as it deserves the christian bible.

the spoken religion of antiquity is only six words in length, that religion is eternal. good luck christian.

just find another fallacy to believe in - can't be any worse.
That's so interesting tell me more.
.
That's so interesting tell me more.
.
your nefarious addiction will only grow worse when you haven't the book to feed it, what will you do. might avoid the elevator on a tall building ...
 
.
GOD selected a representative group that were suppose to be the beacon of GOD (HIS representatives/missionaries) to the other nations. And in fact Joseph would be GOD's emissary the the nation of EGYPT, Solomon would influence the surrounding kingdoms, as Daniel would be the the emissary to BABYLON, and Ezekiel the PERSIANS, etc... This group would be the linage of the MESSIAH --- who would make salvation possible for the entire world.
I always wondered by any god would have to enlist humans to convince other people to believe in him.

Why not just appear to everyone at the same time ?
God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
So now you're comparing yourself to Moses and the others that god allegedly spoke to?
Not at all. I have no idea how you even made that leap in logic. God didn't enlist me and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am defending my beliefs from attacks from others.
But in the OT he did enlist people to bring his message to others.

If he was indeed all powerful why did he have to send Moses the 10 Commandments? Why not just appear to everyone on the entire planet and declare himself?
I don't know that he did. For all I know that was an embellishment.

But it seems to me that for any given thing there will be some who have a natural talent for it and those are the ones who NATURALLY end up instructing others who have less talent in it. So whether we are talking about music or math or science or spirituality there will always be a distribution within each subset. The better naturally instruct the average.
I'm not talking about music or math.

I am asking why an all powerful god can't deliver his message all the people he supposedly created at the same time.

There weren't that many people living back then so I think it wouldn't have been too much for a god to handle.
You will have to ask God that question.

I believe He did and does. It's just that some are too busy listening to themselves to hear Him.

But why do you care?
It's an interesting question that people have never given a satisfactory answer for
I doubt there is any answer you will find satisfactory. That isn't the point of you asking it.
If the all powerful creator wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way then he should have been able to tell everyone he ever created exactly what he wants and not leave the rules of worship up to mere mortals
Who said "the all powerful creator" wanted all of his creations to worship him in just one particular way?

Which way is that? Was there a memo that was sent out that I missed?

You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
You know that nobody cares if you don't believe in "the all powerful creator," right? I mean other than you that is.
.
really, are you that naive ...
.
View attachment 501865
.
the desert religions have been the most brutal and fanatic of all the greater religions on planet Earth, without interruption.

- for a christian suppression has been their calling card from the beginning.
If that were true those religions would have died out long ago. You are a hammer looking for a nail.
No I'm merely trying to understand the incongruities

You like to sweep them under the rug
No. You are manufacturing conflict because you need conflict.
No you see conflict because YOU need it.
I'm not in a militant atheist discussion forum trolling for militant atheists to argue with.

I'm not a militant anything.

And don't forget YOU are the one who replied to a question I didn't ask you.
You are just a different flavor of it. A milder version. Otherwise no difference.
Once again not an atheist.

I see you still haven't overcome your aversion to dictionaries.

And Like I said I wasn't even responding to you.
Who are you trying to convince? I hope not me.


No one is more convincing that you are full of shit than you are.
You really are wound up today.


A projection again?

you are the one making an ass out of yourself with anyone who tries to reason with you.

I'm not pissed off about anything.

I would find it funny if you weren't so pathetic.
Too funny.

It's so easy to see the hostility towards Christianity and Christians in this forum. So easy.




It could be that intelligent people are tired of you hypocrites trying to influence laws and customs based on your perverse views of life derived from your ignorant irrational and superstitious interpretations of Hebrew children's stories..

Like I told you before if I really hated Christians I would have just let you all rot where you stand.

But as it is, by showing where right and wrong and judgement lie I have done you and your billion catholic friends (ha ha) not to mention the 30,000 denominations of Christianity a favor for which y'all can never repay.


"Many will be purified and refined, making their robes shining white. But the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin. From now on there is no excuse, you have made evil a deliberate choice.

Not all of your friends (ha ha) are that stupid.




"As soon as Judas received the bread Satan entered him.." John 13:27
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
Would you like to abolish Christianity?
.
that is simply accomplished when their book of forgeries and fallacies is finally discarded, voluntarily as it deserves the christian bible.

the spoken religion of antiquity is only six words in length, that religion is eternal. good luck christian.

just find another fallacy to believe in - can't be any worse.
That's so interesting tell me more.
.
That's so interesting tell me more.
.
your nefarious addiction will only grow worse when you haven't the book to feed it, what will you do. might avoid the elevator on a tall building ...
Is that so? Tell me more.
 
sex with animals

One of the 10 reasons God gave Moshe why the inhabitants of the land were to be expelled or exterminated.
This fact saddens many Liberals in NYC.


Given that the creatures identified in Kosher law as either clean or unclean are metaphors for human archetypes, the subject and condemnation of bestiality also has deeper implications about people who display the attributes of lower beasts.

Many people out there know nothing about the figurative meaning of the words or the subjects hidden in the law about which they are so dogmatic.

Many deeply religious people have sex with swine who do not ruminate all the time unaware; many, like ding, do not even have an inkling that they are one.

The people who rebelled against Moses at least understood that they were condemned by God as animals, lower beasts, because they saw themselves described in great detail on the forbidden menu.
Good post...Jews are required to be kosher in all aspects of life, even the aspects that you find pointless.
 

Ha, that's what I was thinking about you. Unintelligible gibberish on one side and lunatic raving on the other.
If that were the case you wouldn't have need of pointing it out.

think buddy think.gif

Think, McFly, think.
 

Ha, that's what I was thinking about you. Unintelligible gibberish on one side and lunatic raving on the other.
If that were the case you wouldn't have need of pointing it out.

View attachment 502285
Think, McFly, think.
.
If that were the case you wouldn't have need of pointing it out ,,,. Think, McFly, think.
.
they were thinking, knowing you would need help figuring it out ...
.
Unintelligible gibberish on one side and lunatic raving on the other.
.
try holding your breath while reading the reply, and just maybe a tall building would be not so bad an idea. afterall.
 

Ha, that's what I was thinking about you. Unintelligible gibberish on one side and lunatic raving on the other.
If that were the case you wouldn't have need of pointing it out.

View attachment 502285
Think, McFly, think.
.
If that were the case you wouldn't have need of pointing it out ,,,. Think, McFly, think.
.
they were thinking, knowing you would need help figuring it out ...
.
Unintelligible gibberish on one side and lunatic raving on the other.
.
try holding your breath while reading the reply, and just maybe a tall building would be not so bad an idea. afterall.
You do realize no one understands a word you write, right?
 

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