sex on the first date

[danielpalos]

Yeah well, he also said he will not believe that women are serious about wanting equality until they walk up to him and ask to be used by him. So he is a bit of a sick fuck.

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

how do most people get sex if they don't ask?

 

[Bonzi]

If a girl walks up to a guy and says, I might be interested but not sure. I want to have about 20 dates, maybe we'll have sex maybe not..... will the guy ask her out? Depends if he likes a challenge.

Like all interpersonal relationships, it's "risk reward"

Men don't always get laid
Women don't always get prince charming and so on........

 

[danielpalos]

so, why is it so difficult for women to simply be honest in modern times and insist it is their turn for a free sample from us?

A free sample? You sick fuck. That is a person. Not some tool for your pleasure.

Honest? If demanding a "free sample" is your version of honesty, the world would rather you lie.

How is it not, dear; under Any form of Capitalism such as ours. Only the right is that cognitively dissonant.

Because we are discussing interpersonal relationships not commercial transactions.

And why do you keep mentioning cognitive dissonance? Why are you supposing is struggling with contradictory beliefs?

commercial transactions are interpersonal. i keep mentioning cognitive dissonance because it seems to be true, for those of the opposing view.

How so?

dear, trade involves a social transaction. it really is that simple, except to the right.

 

[Bonzi]

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

how do most people get sex if they don't ask?

You have never had a relationship where one thing just led to another?????????????????

 

[danielpalos]

Yeah well, he also said he will not believe that women are serious about wanting equality until they walk up to him and ask to be used by him. So he is a bit of a sick fuck.

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

Everybody knows guys want sex; it is up to women to "sell" their "relationship wares" if they are serious and not just all talk and no action.

 

[danielpalos]

why is it soo difficult to get Good customer service for free from free chics? have they no social morals for free.

I'm sure plenty of women you know give it away for free. Just not to you. Hmmm....I wonder why that is?

a lack of capital is a common denominator. i never have this problem when i have a petty cash fund for such purposes.

I am happy that you have petty cash. It is handy. However, I don't see what that has to do with your expectations that women "service" you.

honesty too difficult of a concept, person on the Right?

Honesty has nothing to do with it. You can walk up to any girl and tell her you want her to have sex with her. But the chances of that being successful are somewhere between slim & none.

honesty has everything to do with; only the clueless and the Causeless don't realize it.

 

[WinterBorn]

a lack of capital is a common denominator. i never have this problem when i have a petty cash fund for such purposes.

I am happy that you have petty cash. It is handy. However, I don't see what that has to do with your expectations that women "service" you.

He's just saying if he had money on hand all the time he'd just get hookers.
But when he doesn't, that women should be benevolent - or at a minimum, "put out" if they are willing to accept "nicities" in other areas......

Yeah well, he also said he will not believe that women are serious about wanting equality until they walk up to him and ask to be used by him. So he is a bit of a sick fuck.

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

You are a little off on things.

Yes, men do go up to women and ask them for sex. But they don't do it with all women. Only those they find attractive. And they want to have the sex THEY want.

There are women who go up to men and ask for sex. But only those men that they find attractive. And they want to have the sex THEY want.

What you are suggesting is not about equality because you want them to ask to be used by you, regardless of whether they find you attractive and to be used for what YOU want, not them.

 

[Bonzi]

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

Everybody knows guys want sex; it is up to women to "sell" their "relationship wares" if they are serious and not just all talk and no action.

So, no men really want to get married then, correct?

 

[danielpalos]

a lack of capital is a common denominator. i never have this problem when i have a petty cash fund for such purposes.

I am happy that you have petty cash. It is handy. However, I don't see what that has to do with your expectations that women "service" you.

He's just saying if he had money on hand all the time he'd just get hookers.
But when he doesn't, that women should be benevolent - or at a minimum, "put out" if they are willing to accept "nicities" in other areas......

Yeah well, he also said he will not believe that women are serious about wanting equality until they walk up to him and ask to be used by him. So he is a bit of a sick fuck.

still full of fallacy?

What exactly was the fallacy in my post??

just an ad hominem with no reason.

 

[WinterBorn]

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

Everybody knows guys want sex; it is up to women to "sell" their "relationship wares" if they are serious and not just all talk and no action.

If that is true, then both people must have something the other one wants. We know what the women have. But what are you offering? Besides petty cash.

 

[danielpalos]

If a girl walks up to a guy and says, I might be interested but not sure. I want to have about 20 dates, maybe we'll have sex maybe not..... will the guy ask her out? Depends if he likes a challenge.

Like all interpersonal relationships, it's "risk reward"

Men don't always get laid
Women don't always get prince charming and so on........

it is about honesty and not having to lie for sex, dear.

 

[danielpalos]

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

how do most people get sex if they don't ask?

You have never had a relationship where one thing just led to another?????????????????

are women claiming non-verbal communication is worth more in the non-porn sector for equality purposes?

 

[WinterBorn]

I am happy that you have petty cash. It is handy. However, I don't see what that has to do with your expectations that women "service" you.

He's just saying if he had money on hand all the time he'd just get hookers.
But when he doesn't, that women should be benevolent - or at a minimum, "put out" if they are willing to accept "nicities" in other areas......

Yeah well, he also said he will not believe that women are serious about wanting equality until they walk up to him and ask to be used by him. So he is a bit of a sick fuck.

still full of fallacy?

What exactly was the fallacy in my post??

just an ad hominem with no reason.

No. It was a sharing of your nonsense. So others will be aware.

 

[danielpalos]

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

I'm sure if a woman really wanted sex with a man she would be willing to go up and ask as well.
I still don't see your point....

how many women do it and are proud they didn't have to lie?

I have no idea because most people (male or female) don't do go up to people and ask for sex!
(unless they are asking a hooker)

Okay..... if a girl and a guy go on a date and, the girl wants to have a nice dinner, cuddle and have a massage but hold off on having sex..... are you saying she should state this up front? What if she doesn't even realize what she wants out of the date until they are well into the date? Maybe she would have wanted to have sex, but, for whatever reason, not up for it or just not into the guy....?

Alternatively, if the guy goes on a date only after sex, should he just state that up front?

Everybody knows guys want sex; it is up to women to "sell" their "relationship wares" if they are serious and not just all talk and no action.

If that is true, then both people must have something the other one wants. We know what the women have. But what are you offering? Besides petty cash.

i am not claiming i want a relationship and some women simply lie when they claim they want a serious, true love, one and only relationship.

 

[WinterBorn]

If a girl walks up to a guy and says, I might be interested but not sure. I want to have about 20 dates, maybe we'll have sex maybe not..... will the guy ask her out? Depends if he likes a challenge.

Like all interpersonal relationships, it's "risk reward"

Men don't always get laid
Women don't always get prince charming and so on........

it is about honesty and not having to lie for sex, dear.

It is about you wanting to circumvent the need to be attractive to the opposite sex.

 

[Bonzi]

If that is true, then both people must have something the other one wants. We know what the women have. But what are you offering? Besides petty cash.

He's saying that hookers want money for sex, are up front about it, clean transaction.
Whereas, dating women, the transaction should also be clean and up front. He is saying he will give them a massage etc. but he expects to be reciprocated in kind.

 

[danielpalos]

He's just saying if he had money on hand all the time he'd just get hookers.
But when he doesn't, that women should be benevolent - or at a minimum, "put out" if they are willing to accept "nicities" in other areas......

Yeah well, he also said he will not believe that women are serious about wanting equality until they walk up to him and ask to be used by him. So he is a bit of a sick fuck.

still full of fallacy?

What exactly was the fallacy in my post??

just an ad hominem with no reason.

No. It was a sharing of your nonsense. So others will be aware.

nope; just a fallacy. only the clueless and the Causeless don't get it.

 

[Bonzi]

If a girl walks up to a guy and says, I might be interested but not sure. I want to have about 20 dates, maybe we'll have sex maybe not..... will the guy ask her out? Depends if he likes a challenge.

Like all interpersonal relationships, it's "risk reward"

Men don't always get laid
Women don't always get prince charming and so on........

it is about honesty and not having to lie for sex, dear.

Then, with "free chics" I suggest you tell them your game plan up front.
If they date you anyway and don't "put out" too bad.... but I think if you were totally honest with women like you are on here, they would run away screaming....

Are you totally honest with "free chics"?

 

[danielpalos]

If a girl walks up to a guy and says, I might be interested but not sure. I want to have about 20 dates, maybe we'll have sex maybe not..... will the guy ask her out? Depends if he likes a challenge.

Like all interpersonal relationships, it's "risk reward"

Men don't always get laid
Women don't always get prince charming and so on........

it is about honesty and not having to lie for sex, dear.

It is about you wanting to circumvent the need to be attractive to the opposite sex.

i am not circumventing anything; of course attraction is a consideration even under our form of capitalism.

 

[WinterBorn]

I am not sure why, but I think it's funny.
Maybe because it's so ridiculous and outlandish...hard to believe he's serious.... I mean, really? LOL!

But let's think about this for a minute..... women want equal rights (most I would assume) - anyway, if I walked up to a man and asked him to "use me" how is that making myself equal to man? I don't get it.....

dear, it is because guys are willing to go up to women and ask them for sex.

really????? you do that? How's that working for you?

i have; it works better and with greater honesty as a moral, with professional women. free chics seem to prefer to just be hypocrites for free.

that is your opinion - you are welcome to it.
obviously, a professional woman will say "yes" to you (for a price)
maybe a non professional woman will also say "yes" to you (for a price) - either way, immoral.
Honest? Well, no one is100% honest, and no one actually agrees with your rationale (male or female) - find someone that agrees and supports your ridiculous arguments.

yes, it is my opinion; just as you all have your opinions.

yes, professional women are honest for a capital price under our form of capitalism.

amateur women seem to prefer lies and liars to honesty, regardless of the lies they tell us guys. However, it is not immoral to be honest; only hypocrites are that clueless and that Causeless.

So, in your opinion, either there is a short conversation of "I want to have sex with you" or it is all dishonest??

LOL!!! So no attempt to determine if the other person is attractive to you? Yeah, I'm sure that is what you prefer.

But at least when you walk up to a woman and ask her to have sex, she is being honest when she tells you 'No'.