Shooting at Lafayette, LA Theater

[Brain357]

Brain, you probably don't know it, but 2aguy has been quoting these bogus numbers since the dinosaurs. The chances of you changing his mind about this is pretty much even with your chances of your walking from one end of the the lower 9th ward in New Orleans to the other at midnight on Saturday night, and surviving.

Yeah....show how they are bogus.......you anti gun extremists throw that around a lot, given that these studies were done by economists and criminologists, experts in their field, they are done by both private and public researchers, two, one done by the Clinton Justice Dept. by 2 anti gunners put the number at 1.5 million.....and obama gave the CDC 10 million dollars to study all the gun research up to that year in 2013 and came out with a range of 500,000 to 3 million.....

So you guys can't dispute the actual research, you point your finger and say "I debunk thee!" when you can't. 40 years of research.....that proves you guys have no idea what you are talking about......

CDC didn't do a DGU study. Stop lying.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...more than a few studies put the number well over a million a year.....and the average of the 10 studies that do not include police or military shootings is 2 million times a year....40 years of research by different researchers many of them rabid anti gunners......

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

And not one study is under 764,000 defensive gun uses a year.....
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Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

11 of your studies say it is less than 2 million. Averaging is pretty dumb.

Brain....you have no idea what you are saying.....you fucking try to cherry pick and you fail at it....I give everyone all the studies...if they are interested they can look for themselves......and they too will find that defensive gun uses are well over 1 million a year, close to if not over 2 million a year.....

 

[Brain357]

Yeah...more than a few studies put the number well over a million a year.....and the average of the 10 studies that do not include police or military shootings is 2 million times a year....40 years of research by different researchers many of them rabid anti gunners......

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

And not one study is under 764,000 defensive gun uses a year.....
-------------------------------------------

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

11 of your studies say it is less than 2 million. Averaging is pretty dumb.

Brain....you have no idea what you are saying.....you fucking try to cherry pick and you fail at it....I give everyone all the studies...if they are interested they can look for themselves......and they too will find that defensive gun uses are well over 1 million a year, close to if not over 2 million a year.....

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

All? Ncvs the largest study by a lot says 108k.

 

[2aguy]

Brain, you probably don't know it, but 2aguy has been quoting these bogus numbers since the dinosaurs. The chances of you changing his mind about this is pretty much even with your chances of your walking from one end of the the lower 9th ward in New Orleans to the other at midnight on Saturday night, and surviving.

Yeah....show how they are bogus.......you anti gun extremists throw that around a lot, given that these studies were done by economists and criminologists, experts in their field, they are done by both private and public researchers, two, one done by the Clinton Justice Dept. by 2 anti gunners put the number at 1.5 million.....and obama gave the CDC 10 million dollars to study all the gun research up to that year in 2013 and came out with a range of 500,000 to 3 million.....

So you guys can't dispute the actual research, you point your finger and say "I debunk thee!" when you can't. 40 years of research.....that proves you guys have no idea what you are talking about......

CDC didn't do a DGU study. Stop lying.

No moron...they studied all the gun research...all of it......in 2013 and from all the research they found the number at 500,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses a year....and they were commissioned by obama, a gun grabber, to show that defensive gun use was small and inconsequential....they found differently...

Again...they studied all the research...they didn't cherry pick...and even they couldn't support your claims..

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

And to those who cant read ----

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Mayci Breaux, 21, left. Jillian Johnson, 33, right. The two victims killed in the Louisiana theater shooting.

 

[Brain357]

Brain, you probably don't know it, but 2aguy has been quoting these bogus numbers since the dinosaurs. The chances of you changing his mind about this is pretty much even with your chances of your walking from one end of the the lower 9th ward in New Orleans to the other at midnight on Saturday night, and surviving.

Yeah....show how they are bogus.......you anti gun extremists throw that around a lot, given that these studies were done by economists and criminologists, experts in their field, they are done by both private and public researchers, two, one done by the Clinton Justice Dept. by 2 anti gunners put the number at 1.5 million.....and obama gave the CDC 10 million dollars to study all the gun research up to that year in 2013 and came out with a range of 500,000 to 3 million.....

So you guys can't dispute the actual research, you point your finger and say "I debunk thee!" when you can't. 40 years of research.....that proves you guys have no idea what you are talking about......

CDC didn't do a DGU study. Stop lying.

No moron...they studied all the gun research...all of it......in 2013 and from all the research they found the number at 500,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses a year....and they were commissioned by obama, a gun grabber, to show that defensive gun use was small and inconsequential....they found differently...

Again...they studied all the research...they didn't cherry pick...and even they couldn't support your claims..

No they didn't arrive at a number. They didn't study it, they only mention what other studies found. Big difference moron.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

But in Obama's roaring economic recovery, where the oceans were going to lower and the planet heal, why is there more racial diversity and mass killings when HE the messiah was going to bring HOPE AND CHANGE? Boy were you libs fooled, not once but twice.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...more than a few studies put the number well over a million a year.....and the average of the 10 studies that do not include police or military shootings is 2 million times a year....40 years of research by different researchers many of them rabid anti gunners......

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

And not one study is under 764,000 defensive gun uses a year.....
-------------------------------------------

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

11 of your studies say it is less than 2 million. Averaging is pretty dumb.

Brain....you have no idea what you are saying.....you fucking try to cherry pick and you fail at it....I give everyone all the studies...if they are interested they can look for themselves......and they too will find that defensive gun uses are well over 1 million a year, close to if not over 2 million a year.....

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

All? Ncvs the largest study by a lot says 108k.

Asshole...if you can't find the L.A. times study it probably isn't in an internet accessible format.....it was done in the 90s.....

And of course you go to the one study that is NOT a gun study in any way, the National Crime Victimization Survey...which you know never asks about guns, or defensive gun uses......anywhere in the study......so of course it has the lowest number and you silly anti gunners cling to it with along with copies of Rules For Radicals.......

 

[2aguy]

Brain, you probably don't know it, but 2aguy has been quoting these bogus numbers since the dinosaurs. The chances of you changing his mind about this is pretty much even with your chances of your walking from one end of the the lower 9th ward in New Orleans to the other at midnight on Saturday night, and surviving.

Yeah....show how they are bogus.......you anti gun extremists throw that around a lot, given that these studies were done by economists and criminologists, experts in their field, they are done by both private and public researchers, two, one done by the Clinton Justice Dept. by 2 anti gunners put the number at 1.5 million.....and obama gave the CDC 10 million dollars to study all the gun research up to that year in 2013 and came out with a range of 500,000 to 3 million.....

So you guys can't dispute the actual research, you point your finger and say "I debunk thee!" when you can't. 40 years of research.....that proves you guys have no idea what you are talking about......

CDC didn't do a DGU study. Stop lying.

No moron...they studied all the gun research...all of it......in 2013 and from all the research they found the number at 500,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses a year....and they were commissioned by obama, a gun grabber, to show that defensive gun use was small and inconsequential....they found differently...

Again...they studied all the research...they didn't cherry pick...and even they couldn't support your claims..

No they didn't arrive at a number. They didn't study it, they only mention what other studies found. Big difference moron.

They researched all the gun research up to 2013....and they say you are wrong....your guys, anti gunners one and all...and they don't even come close to your numbers....

 

[Vandalshandle]

But in Obama's roaring economic recovery, where the oceans were going to lower and the planet heal, why is there more racial diversity and mass killings when HE the messiah was going to bring HOPE AND CHANGE? Boy were you libs fooled, not once but twice.

So Obama shot those people? Damn! It was a conspiracy after all! The leftist press said that he was on his way to Africa at the time!

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...more than a few studies put the number well over a million a year.....and the average of the 10 studies that do not include police or military shootings is 2 million times a year....40 years of research by different researchers many of them rabid anti gunners......

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

And not one study is under 764,000 defensive gun uses a year.....
-------------------------------------------

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

11 of your studies say it is less than 2 million. Averaging is pretty dumb.

Brain....you have no idea what you are saying.....you fucking try to cherry pick and you fail at it....I give everyone all the studies...if they are interested they can look for themselves......and they too will find that defensive gun uses are well over 1 million a year, close to if not over 2 million a year.....

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

All? Ncvs the largest study by a lot says 108k.

And the 8 studies that show over 1.5 million.....you are so fucking lame brain......

 

[Brain357]

Brain, you probably don't know it, but 2aguy has been quoting these bogus numbers since the dinosaurs. The chances of you changing his mind about this is pretty much even with your chances of your walking from one end of the the lower 9th ward in New Orleans to the other at midnight on Saturday night, and surviving.

Yeah....show how they are bogus.......you anti gun extremists throw that around a lot, given that these studies were done by economists and criminologists, experts in their field, they are done by both private and public researchers, two, one done by the Clinton Justice Dept. by 2 anti gunners put the number at 1.5 million.....and obama gave the CDC 10 million dollars to study all the gun research up to that year in 2013 and came out with a range of 500,000 to 3 million.....

So you guys can't dispute the actual research, you point your finger and say "I debunk thee!" when you can't. 40 years of research.....that proves you guys have no idea what you are talking about......

CDC didn't do a DGU study. Stop lying.

No moron...they studied all the gun research...all of it......in 2013 and from all the research they found the number at 500,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses a year....and they were commissioned by obama, a gun grabber, to show that defensive gun use was small and inconsequential....they found differently...

Again...they studied all the research...they didn't cherry pick...and even they couldn't support your claims..

* The CDC report made no effort to reconcile the differing estimates of DGUs, except to note that the estimate provided by the Kleck group was larger by an order of magnitude than the estimate arising from the NCVS. The CDC report noted that the estimate of DGU provided by the Kleck group is twice again as large as the estimate of the Dept. of Justice that there are 1.3 million crimes committed with a gun in the USA every year.

Defensive Gun Use Part I - The CDC Report on Gun Violence

 

[2aguy]

And since you loved it before,

The number of people saved when people are allowed to carry guns vs. gun free zone killings....

Some details to help you make your guess....

Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)

vs.

Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)
**********
No guns: 15 dead

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)


Parishioners with guns: 2 dead

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)

 

[airplanemechanic]

GUYS THE SHOOTER WAS A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM!!

Rusty Houser US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Brain357]

Yeah...more than a few studies put the number well over a million a year.....and the average of the 10 studies that do not include police or military shootings is 2 million times a year....40 years of research by different researchers many of them rabid anti gunners......

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

And not one study is under 764,000 defensive gun uses a year.....
-------------------------------------------

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

11 of your studies say it is less than 2 million. Averaging is pretty dumb.

Brain....you have no idea what you are saying.....you fucking try to cherry pick and you fail at it....I give everyone all the studies...if they are interested they can look for themselves......and they too will find that defensive gun uses are well over 1 million a year, close to if not over 2 million a year.....

Field and la times most distort your numbers. Field isn't national so shouldn't be included. Please link to details of the la times survey. How many surveyed? What were the questions?

All? Ncvs the largest study by a lot says 108k.

Asshole...if you can't find the L.A. times study it probably isn't in an internet accessible format.....it was done in the 90s.....

And of course you go to the one study that is NOT a gun study in any way, the National Crime Victimization Survey...which you know never asks about guns, or defensive gun uses......anywhere in the study......so of course it has the lowest number and you silly anti gunners cling to it with along with copies of Rules For Radicals.......

That tells me very little about the la times study. Should be dropped.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Brain, if 2aguy goes postal on us, you are to blame!

 

[Brain357]

GUYS THE SHOOTER WAS A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM!!

Rusty Houser US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Sad.

 

[2aguy]

Brain, you probably don't know it, but 2aguy has been quoting these bogus numbers since the dinosaurs. The chances of you changing his mind about this is pretty much even with your chances of your walking from one end of the the lower 9th ward in New Orleans to the other at midnight on Saturday night, and surviving.

Yeah....show how they are bogus.......you anti gun extremists throw that around a lot, given that these studies were done by economists and criminologists, experts in their field, they are done by both private and public researchers, two, one done by the Clinton Justice Dept. by 2 anti gunners put the number at 1.5 million.....and obama gave the CDC 10 million dollars to study all the gun research up to that year in 2013 and came out with a range of 500,000 to 3 million.....

So you guys can't dispute the actual research, you point your finger and say "I debunk thee!" when you can't. 40 years of research.....that proves you guys have no idea what you are talking about......

CDC didn't do a DGU study. Stop lying.

No moron...they studied all the gun research...all of it......in 2013 and from all the research they found the number at 500,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses a year....and they were commissioned by obama, a gun grabber, to show that defensive gun use was small and inconsequential....they found differently...

Again...they studied all the research...they didn't cherry pick...and even they couldn't support your claims..

* The CDC report made no effort to reconcile the differing estimates of DGUs, except to note that the estimate provided by the Kleck group was larger by an order of magnitude than the estimate arising from the NCVS. The CDC report noted that the estimate of DGU provided by the Kleck group is twice again as large as the estimate of the Dept. of Justice that there are 1.3 million crimes committed with a gun in the USA every year.

Defensive Gun Use Part I - The CDC Report on Gun Violence

Yes...the anti gun extremists at the CDC, a well known anti gun government agency, tries to hide what they found...since the borg queen obama really, really wants to ban guns...so much so he sold guns to drug cartels to spike violence in Mexico with American supplied guns....

and then they come back with 500,000 to 3 million defensive gun uses....

Those CDC researchers are now doing research in the Antarctic......studying tropical diseases......

 

[2aguy]

Brain, if 2aguy goes postal on us, you are to blame!

Remember, I am not a lefty.....the left commits almost all political violence in this country....American conservatives like me believe in the rule of law, individual rights, and the value of all human beings, both born and unborn....the left...not so much, which is why mass killing comes easy to them.....