can't beat them , that's silly and sounds pretty defeatist . The west led by the USA probably could have wiped them out years ago as some say the west should have done . So , the west probably won't be able to cleanly wipe them out especially after iran gets nukes . But yeah , the west can wipe them out for the most part . Man , I tell you what , it seems to me that you Young [esp. the young] and old lefties have set yourselves up for decades , maybe centuries of war Joeb !!