Should we be fiscally responsible?

Should the USA be fiscally responsible?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 83.3%
  • No

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Total voters
    24
This video clearly shows what happened. Revenue nearly flat and the biggest increases in spending were military and interest on the debt:

When you say defense is "the biggest," you mean only when you breakdown social spending into their individual programs. The increase in social spending in the aggregate was much larger than defense spending.
 
Here are the CBO numbers from 2016.

The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2016 to 2026 | Congressional Budget Office

From the link:

"In 2016, the federal budget deficit will increase, in relation to the size of the economy, for the first time since 2009, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimates. If current laws generally remained unchanged, the deficit would grow over the next 10 years, and by 2026 it would be considerably larger than its average over the past 50 years, CBO projects. Debt held by the public would also grow significantly from its already high level."

Trump may have contributed to our fiscal problem but there were structural issues in place before he was ever elected.
The CBO is a Marxist organization. They've always been wrong.

Marxist? That made me laugh.

Regardless, do you deny that there were structural fiscal problems that preceded Trump? Can you back up that assertion?
 
Here are the CBO numbers from 2016.

The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2016 to 2026 | Congressional Budget Office

From the link:

"In 2016, the federal budget deficit will increase, in relation to the size of the economy, for the first time since 2009, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimates. If current laws generally remained unchanged, the deficit would grow over the next 10 years, and by 2026 it would be considerably larger than its average over the past 50 years, CBO projects. Debt held by the public would also grow significantly from its already high level."

Trump may have contributed to our fiscal problem but there were structural issues in place before he was ever elected.
The CBO is a Marxist organization. They've always been wrong.

Marxist? That made me laugh.

Regardless, do you deny that there were structural fiscal problems that preceded Trump? Can you back up that assertion?
Of course there are "structural problems." Democracy is designed to implode.
 
This video clearly shows what happened. Revenue nearly flat and the biggest increases in spending were military and interest on the debt:

When you say defense is "the biggest," you mean only when you breakdown social spending into their individual programs. The increase in social spending in the aggregate was much larger than defense spending.

What were the other increases then? Military got the biggest increase according to the video. You have a link?
 
This video clearly shows what happened. Revenue nearly flat and the biggest increases in spending were military and interest on the debt:

When you say defense is "the biggest," you mean only when you breakdown social spending into their individual programs. The increase in social spending in the aggregate was much larger than defense spending.

What were the other increases then? Military got the biggest increase according to the video. You have a link?

What I posted doesn't contradict what you posted.
 
This video clearly shows what happened. Revenue nearly flat and the biggest increases in spending were military and interest on the debt:

When you say defense is "the biggest," you mean only when you breakdown social spending into their individual programs. The increase in social spending in the aggregate was much larger than defense spending.

What were the other increases then? Military got the biggest increase according to the video. You have a link?

What I posted doesn't contradict what you posted.

Yes was just hoping for more numbers. Social spending should probably be broken down as well everybody pays into social security so I think it's a different monster than some other spending.
 
This video clearly shows what happened. Revenue nearly flat and the biggest increases in spending were military and interest on the debt:

When you say defense is "the biggest," you mean only when you breakdown social spending into their individual programs. The increase in social spending in the aggregate was much larger than defense spending.

What were the other increases then? Military got the biggest increase according to the video. You have a link?

What I posted doesn't contradict what you posted.

Yes was just hoping for more numbers. Social spending should probably be broken down as well everybody pays into social security so I think it's a different monster than some other spending.



AND, it lets you pretend that Military spending, is the big problem, even though we all know that is not true.
 
This video clearly shows what happened. Revenue nearly flat and the biggest increases in spending were military and interest on the debt:

When you say defense is "the biggest," you mean only when you breakdown social spending into their individual programs. The increase in social spending in the aggregate was much larger than defense spending.

What were the other increases then? Military got the biggest increase according to the video. You have a link?

What I posted doesn't contradict what you posted.

Yes was just hoping for more numbers. Social spending should probably be broken down as well everybody pays into social security so I think it's a different monster than some other spending.



AND, it lets you pretend that Military spending, is the big problem, even though we all know that is not true.

Clearly it is true when it comes to the drastic deficit increases since trump. You are ignoring the facts again? Revenue was flattened by his tax cuts and he lead the way in spending with the military. And to get his military increase he gave increases to the dems.
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
Yes our problems should have been fixed. Bush not only was bad for deficits, but handed over a poor economy too. And then Obama spent us out of a recession and I mean really spent. And now trump has taken the deficits that had finally decreased a bit under Obama and ballooned them up like we are in recession....
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.
 
I would blame Paul Ryan more than Trump. Trump asked Paul Ryan for spending cuts. Post 1998 GOP leader Paul Ryan refused, starting with ObamaCare.

The post 1998 GOP cares about one and only one thing = ISRAEL
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.
Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.
 
I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.


China could bring us to our knees just by selling our debt in the open markets, driving up our interest rates to the point where "interest expense" is 90% of federal revenue.


Those who are not concerned with the Federal Debt are mathematically challenged morons and leeches addicted to government checks, many of whom are BOTH....

Ask anyone unconcerned with the debt what happens if interest rates rise, and you'll get a big fat

DUHHHHHHHH
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.
Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.
I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.
 
I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.


China could bring us to our knees just by selling our debt in the open markets, driving up our interest rates to the point where "interest expense" is 90% of federal revenue.


Those who are not concerned with the Federal Debt are mathematically challenged morons and leeches addicted to government checks, many of whom are BOTH....

Ask anyone unconcerned with the debt what happens if interest rates rise, and you'll get a big fat

DUHHHHHHHH

China could bring us to our knees just by selling our debt in the open markets, driving up our interest rates

The Fed could buy all the Chinese holdings without breaking a sweat.
What would China do with the dollars they get? Wallpaper?

to the point where "interest expense" is 90% of federal revenue.

How many times did you fail algebra before you finally gave up?
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.
Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.
I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.
They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.
Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.
I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.
They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.
No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.
 
When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....
It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.
Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.
I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.
They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.
No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?
 

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