Should we be fiscally responsible?

[Brain357]

When W was elected, we had a budget surplus and a Federal debt of under $6 trillion....

All W had to do was do what Newt Gingrich did.... and our debt would still be $6 trillion...

but that would have been good for America, and W was never about what was good for America.....

W was about what was good for Israel and Zionist Jews like Mikey Bloomberg, Jeff Epstein, and the rest who were invested on 910 to profit from 911....

It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.

Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.

I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

There are a number of governors that have done it. It really needs to be pushed that all that interest paid is waste. And it's a growing number....

 

[bripat9643]

It was easier for Gingrich because after the Berlin Wall came down we cut military spending every year.

Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.

I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?

The only thing Clinton cut spending on was the defense department, and that was only because the USSR collapsed. Clinton sure as hell doesn't deserve any credit for that.

 

[Rocko]

We’re not going to be. Literally no party we elect will make us change course.

 

[Brain357]

Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.

I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?

The only thing Clinton cut spending on was the defense department, and that was only because the USSR collapsed. Clinton sure as hell doesn't deserve any credit for that.

He ran on a balanced budget and it was eventually achieved or depending how picky you are very close to achieved. Now the Clinton years was a real economy. High growth and declining deficits. We got to see what can happen when the parties come together. We also had welfare reform, huge drop in crime... Right now I think the lobbying is so strong that neither party will give because the $$$ will get mad. We need to cut out the corruption.

 

[Brain357]

We’re not going to be. Literally no party we elect will make us change course.

Right now they have no pressure. We had the tea party, but they proved to just be partisan garbage. As soon as it was republican debt they disappeared. We need a real movement or somebody like Ross Perot who can take votes from the two gangs we have now.

 

[initforme]

A balanced budget is waaaaay down the line of importance... Run er up as necessary....the economy is good this is no time to worry about a bloody budget.

 

[bripat9643]

I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?

The only thing Clinton cut spending on was the defense department, and that was only because the USSR collapsed. Clinton sure as hell doesn't deserve any credit for that.

He ran on a balanced budget and it was eventually achieved or depending how picky you are very close to achieved. Now the Clinton years was a real economy. High growth and declining deficits. We got to see what can happen when the parties come together. We also had welfare reform, huge drop in crime... Right now I think the lobbying is so strong that neither party will give because the $$$ will get mad. We need to cut out the corruption.

Clinton's economy was achieved through no fault of his own. He didn't cause the collapse of the USSR, and he gets no credit for the tech boom which cause the stock market bubble. he doesn't get credit for welfare reform because he only agreed to what was being imposed on him.

 

[bripat9643]

We’re not going to be. Literally no party we elect will make us change course.

Right now they have no pressure. We had the tea party, but they proved to just be partisan garbage. As soon as it was republican debt they disappeared. We need a real movement or somebody like Ross Perot who can take votes from the two gangs we have now.

The TEA party was "partisan garbage?" Your post is partisan garbage.

 

[Brain357]

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?

The only thing Clinton cut spending on was the defense department, and that was only because the USSR collapsed. Clinton sure as hell doesn't deserve any credit for that.

He ran on a balanced budget and it was eventually achieved or depending how picky you are very close to achieved. Now the Clinton years was a real economy. High growth and declining deficits. We got to see what can happen when the parties come together. We also had welfare reform, huge drop in crime... Right now I think the lobbying is so strong that neither party will give because the $$$ will get mad. We need to cut out the corruption.

Clinton's economy was achieved through no fault of his own. He didn't cause the collapse of the USSR, and he gets no credit for the tech boom which cause the stock market bubble. he doesn't get credit for welfare reform because he only agreed to what was being imposed on him.

You really need to rethink that. He did what was right. It would have been very easy for him to be partisan and not sign all the things he did. But he made deals and got things done. Obama did none of that. He grabbed Obamacare when he had full control and then had to rule by executive order. Trump is headed down more the same path of Obama....

 

[Brain357]

A balanced budget is waaaaay down the line of importance... Run er up as necessary....the economy is good this is no time to worry about a bloody budget.

That is foolish.

 

[Brain357]

We’re not going to be. Literally no party we elect will make us change course.

Right now they have no pressure. We had the tea party, but they proved to just be partisan garbage. As soon as it was republican debt they disappeared. We need a real movement or somebody like Ross Perot who can take votes from the two gangs we have now.

The TEA party was "partisan garbage?" Your is partisan garbage.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing? We need them more than ever and they have disappeared now that they can't blame a democrat. What are they if not partisan garbage?

 

[The Banker]

Which is something we should have probably continued. I'm 100% certain we will collapse economically before anyone is foolish enough to attack us.

I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?

The only thing Clinton cut spending on was the defense department, and that was only because the USSR collapsed. Clinton sure as hell doesn't deserve any credit for that.

HA!

You just said:
"No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending"

Bill Clinton did just that, he also cut social program spending and raised tax on the ultra-wealthy, AND he raised the minimum wage and the middle class powered the US into our greatest era.

Also funny how every single republican voted against the 1993 deficit reduction act- the GOP is the party of big deficits.

Now Trump has reversed all the cuts and has ramped up military spending by insane levels and has increased spending and deficits by insane levels. Basically Trump has instituted the George Bush school of economics- tax cuts and massive spending increases leading to a total financial collapse and ruin. Trump's wild spending will crash this economy and leave us worse off, just like Bush.

 

[Rocko]

We’re not going to be. Literally no party we elect will make us change course.

Right now they have no pressure. We had the tea party, but they proved to just be partisan garbage. As soon as it was republican debt they disappeared. We need a real movement or somebody like Ross Perot who can take votes from the two gangs we have now.

When Ron Paul was in government he was spending fed money like a drunken sailor. Ross Perot was never in government. He would have been a big spender if he was. We have reached the point of no return. You say you’re concerned with deficits and debt, but you’ve yet to mention entitlements, which is the driver.

 

[initforme]

The tea party loves the CEO and abhors the average worker....utter hatred.

 

[The Banker]

A balanced budget is waaaaay down the line of importance... Run er up as necessary....the economy is good this is no time to worry about a bloody budget.

AHAHAH!!!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!

AHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Clearly you have no clue what is going on. The economy is only good because Trump has borrowed trillions of dollars and added it to the deficit. If you take away Trump's massive deficit spending increases then we would have the same economy that we had under Obama.

When this economy collapses the deficit will explode to $3+ Trillion/yr and the US will have an extremely bad problem, all thanks to Trump's reckless spending and deficits.

The Obama stimulus was $800 B over 10 years, Trump has added $1.5 Trillion in deficits so far, so basically Trump has added 2 Obama stimulus packages, but hey let's not worry about that.

AHAHAHA!!!!

I Hope you were just being facetious.

 

[Rocko]

TEA Party stands for taxed enough already. Not saying deficits and taxes aren’t intertwined, but to suggest the main thing the tea party was protesting was lower deficits is disingenuous

 

[initforme]

Cutting Medicaid Medicare will throw this nation I to a tailspin that history books will have to write about. Mass chaos.

 

[Mac1958]

A balanced budget is waaaaay down the line of importance... Run er up as necessary....the economy is good this is no time to worry about a bloody budget.

Do you not understand that Trump's All-You-Can-Eat Fiscal Donut Truck is what is stimulating the economy?

Aggressive tax cuts, aggressive spending increases, the Fed AGAIN pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS into markets to grease the system.

If you're going to brag about the economy, you at least have to know what is causing it, and what the implications are.

Do you not understand that?
.

 

[Rocko]

Cutting Medicaid Medicare will throw this nation I to a tailspin that history books will have to write about. Mass chaos.

agreed. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have to admit, I was miffed when Trump decided to increase military in exchange for big increases in social spending and not building the wall. The later would have cut the deficit by at least $200 billion.

They should have been coming to an agreement on how much to cut, not how much to spend. We were over 20 trillion in debt afterall.

No politician ever got reelected by cutting spending.

BILL CLINTON DID, the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, and that is why he was a great president and that is why he had a real economy.


Trump's entire weak economic expansion that still has yet to achieve 3% annual growth, has been fueled by borrowed money and a restarting of monetary easing by the FED. We have no real nominal GDP growth, it is all government debt funded growth. Trump is going to continue increasing government debt and spending, they are working on tax Cuts 2.0 right now. The US budget deficit will hit $2 T/yr soon, then the economy will collapse and the deficit will explode to $3+ T/yr when tax revenue plummets in the recession. That will lead to austerity and economic ruin for the US. We will then have negative interest rates and the failed European and Japanese monetary policy and America could be fucked.

Trump is going to bankrupt the US, just like he had to declare bankruptcy numerous times, will Trump's daddy bail out the US economy like he bailed out Donny?

The only thing Clinton cut spending on was the defense department, and that was only because the USSR collapsed. Clinton sure as hell doesn't deserve any credit for that.

He ran on a balanced budget and it was eventually achieved or depending how picky you are very close to achieved. Now the Clinton years was a real economy. High growth and declining deficits. We got to see what can happen when the parties come together. We also had welfare reform, huge drop in crime... Right now I think the lobbying is so strong that neither party will give because the $$$ will get mad. We need to cut out the corruption.

He ran on a balanced budget

He ran on a middle class tax cut. Then he raised taxes, including on the middle class.

Now the Clinton years was a real economy. High growth and declining deficits.

The Internet Bubble was cool!!!