Should we legalize pot and help free innocent people?

[BlindBoo]

So? I dont see much point of comparison between artisanal liquor and dope.

They are both in demand and both illegal to produce. Your point was people aren't making spirits in their basements, but some people are because there is a demand for more than just what is available at the liquor store.

It's not illegal to produce liquor. It happens every day.
Some people have a hobby of distilling liquor. They aren't carting it around and selling it out of the back of their cars.
totally different. Thanks for making that clear.

Ray emailed the BATF for the reference statutes concerning home distillation. Here is their response:

Ray, you have not been able to locate anything on home production because there is no provision for it. Moonshining is still illegal!! Unlike wine or beer, the laws and regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use. Under 26 U.S.C. Section 5171 operations as a distiller, warehouseman or processor may be conducted only on the bonded premises of a qualified distilled spirits plant. To qualify such a plant, a registration, application for permit and bond must be filed in addition to other supporting organizational documents. 26 U.S.C. 5178 places restrictions on where a plant can be located. Hope this answers your question.

Carol Coy
Industry Specialist
National Revenue Center-Cincinnati, OH
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
e-mail: [email protected]

Home Distillation of Alcohol (Homemade Alcohol to Drink)

 

[Vandalshandle]

I don't use it myself, but I don't know anyone who hasn't tried it, and I know of no one who was ever harmed by it.

 

[The Rabbi]

They are both in demand and both illegal to produce. Your point was people aren't making spirits in their basements, but some people are because there is a demand for more than just what is available at the liquor store.

It's not illegal to produce liquor. It happens every day.
Some people have a hobby of distilling liquor. They aren't carting it around and selling it out of the back of their cars.
totally different. Thanks for making that clear.

Ray emailed the BATF for the reference statutes concerning home distillation. Here is their response:

Ray, you have not been able to locate anything on home production because there is no provision for it. Moonshining is still illegal!! Unlike wine or beer, the laws and regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use. Under 26 U.S.C. Section 5171 operations as a distiller, warehouseman or processor may be conducted only on the bonded premises of a qualified distilled spirits plant. To qualify such a plant, a registration, application for permit and bond must be filed in addition to other supporting organizational documents. 26 U.S.C. 5178 places restrictions on where a plant can be located. Hope this answers your question.

Carol Coy
Industry Specialist
National Revenue Center-Cincinnati, OH
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
e-mail: [email protected]

Home Distillation of Alcohol (Homemade Alcohol to Drink)

Right. It is not illegal to distill liguor. Which is what I said.

 

[The Rabbi]

talking to Rabbi about Pot is like talking to Dean about Republicans......

Translation: We're getting our butts kicked. Time to go ad hom.

sure your kicking ass.....you have no concept of Pot because you have never even see a Joint....and everything you say comes right out of the Drug Czar's book of Pot.....so Rabbi ....have you ever seen that Campy film...."Reefer Madness?".....if not check it out....its made for people like you and Rotty....im sure you will eat it up....

Your poor grammar, punctuation, spelling, and word syntax indicates you've smoked way more than your quota.
Get back under your rock and leave the adults alone.

 

[BlindBoo]

Another IDIOT who can't seem to live without setting a leaf on fire and absorbing it's carcinogenic output....

By the way - small government conservatives could give a flying fuck what you do with your own body. It's the heinous crimes you assholes commit while high that we have a problem with...

smoking pot does not lead to violence or crime ...what are you on ?

To steal a great quote from Rabbi (if I may).... Oops!!!!

Marijuana is drug most often linked to crime, study finds | McClatchy

Gil Kerlikowske, the White House director of national drug-control policy, said a study by his office showed a strong link between drug use and crime.

Hahahahahaha. umm hahahahahahahaha..........

 

[BlindBoo]

It's not illegal to produce liquor. It happens every day.
Some people have a hobby of distilling liquor. They aren't carting it around and selling it out of the back of their cars.
totally different. Thanks for making that clear.

Ray emailed the BATF for the reference statutes concerning home distillation. Here is their response:

Ray, you have not been able to locate anything on home production because there is no provision for it. Moonshining is still illegal!! Unlike wine or beer, the laws and regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use. Under 26 U.S.C. Section 5171 operations as a distiller, warehouseman or processor may be conducted only on the bonded premises of a qualified distilled spirits plant. To qualify such a plant, a registration, application for permit and bond must be filed in addition to other supporting organizational documents. 26 U.S.C. 5178 places restrictions on where a plant can be located. Hope this answers your question.

Carol Coy
Industry Specialist
National Revenue Center-Cincinnati, OH
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
e-mail: [email protected]

Home Distillation of Alcohol (Homemade Alcohol to Drink)

Right. It is not illegal to distill liguor. Which is what I said.

"regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use"

"Moonshining is still illegal"

Even a one gallon still is illegal.

Personally I don't agree with that federal law either. But fact of the matter is you cannot legally distill your own hooch.

 

[The Rabbi]

Ray emailed the BATF for the reference statutes concerning home distillation. Here is their response:

Ray, you have not been able to locate anything on home production because there is no provision for it. Moonshining is still illegal!! Unlike wine or beer, the laws and regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use. Under 26 U.S.C. Section 5171 operations as a distiller, warehouseman or processor may be conducted only on the bonded premises of a qualified distilled spirits plant. To qualify such a plant, a registration, application for permit and bond must be filed in addition to other supporting organizational documents. 26 U.S.C. 5178 places restrictions on where a plant can be located. Hope this answers your question.

Carol Coy
Industry Specialist
National Revenue Center-Cincinnati, OH
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
e-mail: [email protected]

Home Distillation of Alcohol (Homemade Alcohol to Drink)

Right. It is not illegal to distill liguor. Which is what I said.

"regulations governing distilled spirits contain no provision that would allow someone to produce spirits in their home for personal use"

"Moonshining is still illegal"

Even a one gallon still is illegal.

Personally I don't agree with that federal law either. But fact of the matter is you cannot legally distill your own hooch.

No one said you could.

 

[eots]

We've already disproven that notion.

No, you didn't ..you posted a psychological blog...that misuses the term addiction when they are speaking of psychological dependency not medical physical dependency..using the term as you are everything from sex to food can be labeled addictive

I'm not going to argue with a pot-head. The medical community has spoken on this.

YOU PROVIDED ONE BLOG AND IT WAS FROM A PSYCHOLOGY BLOG..THIS IS NOT THE VOICE OF THE "MEDICAL COMMUNITY "

They are way more qualified than you're stoned ass. You're a drug-addict. Deal with it. Or don't. But shut the fuck up already because nobody gives a fuck what a stoned asshole thinks..

DON'T BE UPSET JUST BECAUSE YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT..BY YOUR DEFINITION EVERYTHING FROM FOOD TO SEX CAN CLASSIFIED AS AN ADDICTION

 

[Harry Dresden]

Translation: We're getting our butts kicked. Time to go ad hom.

sure your kicking ass.....you have no concept of Pot because you have never even see a Joint....and everything you say comes right out of the Drug Czar's book of Pot.....so Rabbi ....have you ever seen that Campy film...."Reefer Madness?".....if not check it out....its made for people like you and Rotty....im sure you will eat it up....

Your poor grammar, punctuation, spelling, and word syntax indicates you've smoked way more than your quota.
Get back under your rock and leave the adults alone.

translation:.....Rabbi knows nothing about Pot since he has never even seen a joint.... so go for the spelling.....Dean does the same thing Rabbi when he is getting kicked.....you two guys deserve each other....why dont you two guys get a Pizza and rent Reefer Madness.....you can giggle together.....

 

[The Rabbi]

sure your kicking ass.....you have no concept of Pot because you have never even see a Joint....and everything you say comes right out of the Drug Czar's book of Pot.....so Rabbi ....have you ever seen that Campy film...."Reefer Madness?".....if not check it out....its made for people like you and Rotty....im sure you will eat it up....

Your poor grammar, punctuation, spelling, and word syntax indicates you've smoked way more than your quota.
Get back under your rock and leave the adults alone.

translation:.....Rabbi knows nothing about Pot since he has never even seen a joint.... so go for the spelling.....Dean does the same thing Rabbi when he is getting kicked.....you two guys deserve each other....why dont you two guys get a Pizza and rent Reefer Madness.....you can giggle together.....

I guess your inablity to read and form coherent responses is what comes from excessive pot use. Were you stoned when you wrote that or is that now just your natural brain dead state?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Your poor grammar, punctuation, spelling, and word syntax indicates you've smoked way more than your quota.
Get back under your rock and leave the adults alone.

translation:.....Rabbi knows nothing about Pot since he has never even seen a joint.... so go for the spelling.....Dean does the same thing Rabbi when he is getting kicked.....you two guys deserve each other....why dont you two guys get a Pizza and rent Reefer Madness.....you can giggle together.....

I guess your inablity to read and form coherent responses is what comes from excessive pot use. Were you stoned when you wrote that or is that now just your natural brain dead state?

now you sound just like the typical Far Righty....havent got anything to say,so lets start with the insults.....tell me Rabbi....have you ever been in a room were Pot was being smoked?....have you ever actually touched a Joint?.....now lets see how honest you are....

 

[The Rabbi]

translation:.....Rabbi knows nothing about Pot since he has never even seen a joint.... so go for the spelling.....Dean does the same thing Rabbi when he is getting kicked.....you two guys deserve each other....why dont you two guys get a Pizza and rent Reefer Madness.....you can giggle together.....

I guess your inablity to read and form coherent responses is what comes from excessive pot use. Were you stoned when you wrote that or is that now just your natural brain dead state?

now you sound just like the typical Far Righty....havent got anything to say,so lets start with the insults.....tell me Rabbi....have you ever been in a room were Pot was being smoked?....have you ever actually touched a Joint?.....now lets see how honest you are....

Your belligerence and lack of ability to focus is indicative of sustained dope smoking. You really need to put down the bong before it takes your last two brain cells.

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g18dKrWwGMU]Drink beer-Smoke pot -play music - YouTube[/ame]

 

[GHook93]

Regardless of the propaganda, you don't go to jail for just possession of weed, even if you're a repeat offender. You have to have a significant amount and get cause growing or distributing.

Some people do go to jail for possession of other hard drugs, but even then it must be multi-offenses, breaking probation or on top of other crimes. Again most criminals in jail for drug crimes are distributors.

Therefore if you legalize just weed, the distributors will move on to the other hard drugs.

Therefore, if you're aim is to keep people out of jail on drug charges, then you have to legalize more than just pot.

Personally I think pot should have been legalized a while ago.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I guess your inablity to read and form coherent responses is what comes from excessive pot use. Were you stoned when you wrote that or is that now just your natural brain dead state?

now you sound just like the typical Far Righty....havent got anything to say,so lets start with the insults.....tell me Rabbi....have you ever been in a room were Pot was being smoked?....have you ever actually touched a Joint?.....now lets see how honest you are....

Your belligerence and lack of ability to focus is indicative of sustained dope smoking. You really need to put down the bong before it takes your last two brain cells.

how come you wont answer my questions?......afraid of saying no i have never touched one?.....i answered yours about the addiction.....dont worry we wont goof on ya.....many people have lived sheltered lives.....you are not the only one, Rotty was raised in a bubble too.....come on be honest.....

 

[MikeK]

Gil Kerlikowske, the White House director of national drug-control policy, said a study by his office showed a strong link between drug use and crime.

Hahahahahaha. umm hahahahahahahaha..........

I agree that it's funny. But far too many of our incredibly ignorant and brainwashed fellow citizens will regard it as Gospel truth because of that lying bastard's exalted title and position.

 

[eots]

mmmm my neighbor just came by and gave me some of purple kush from his latest crop...


'Purple Kush buds form tight chunky nuggets with hints of purple in the tips of the calyxes, as well as the soft pine bouquet and a sweet, grapey taste on an earthy foundation. her very frosty veneer of glands will please both the connoisseur of indica potency and the hashish fan."

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylQfYs23xUM]Last Purple Kush Harvest - YouTube[/ame]

 

[KevinWestern]

I guess your inablity to read and form coherent responses is what comes from excessive pot use. Were you stoned when you wrote that or is that now just your natural brain dead state?

now you sound just like the typical Far Righty....havent got anything to say,so lets start with the insults.....tell me Rabbi....have you ever been in a room were Pot was being smoked?....have you ever actually touched a Joint?.....now lets see how honest you are....

Your belligerence and lack of ability to focus is indicative of sustained dope smoking. You really need to put down the bong before it takes your last two brain cells.

Rabbi - You're quite condescending towards marijuana users, and I think it's rather disrespectful. Do you say the same things to all of the alcohol drinkers you encounter (given that it's a much more toxic and prevalent drug)?

Not sure if you're aware, but there are mountains of incredibly successful and intelligent people who smoke or have smoked marijuana (including one of the richest self-made men on the planet - Bill Gates).

The drug is all natural, grows out of the ground for pete's sake, virtually impossible to overdose on, lasts for only an hour or so, and has even been recommended by many doctors to give to CANCER patients. I don't have a medical license, but I'm pretty sure whiskey isn't recommended for folks going through chemo.

So I'm curious - Rabbi - what do you have against the drug? Really, I'm baffled as to why you're so hostile against this plant. Did you have a bad experience when you were younger? I know my dad hated it because it made him way too paranoid, and that's fine. However I don't think that warrants you being so condescending towards others who do enjoy using it from time to time.

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[Harry Dresden]

now you sound just like the typical Far Righty....havent got anything to say,so lets start with the insults.....tell me Rabbi....have you ever been in a room were Pot was being smoked?....have you ever actually touched a Joint?.....now lets see how honest you are....

Your belligerence and lack of ability to focus is indicative of sustained dope smoking. You really need to put down the bong before it takes your last two brain cells.

Rabbi - You're quite condescending towards marijuana users, and I think it's rather disrespectful. Do you say the same things to all of the alcohol drinkers you encounter (given that it's a much more toxic and prevalent drug)?

Not sure if you're aware, but there are mountains of incredibly successful and intelligent people who smoke or have smoked marijuana (including one of the richest self-made men on the planet - Bill Gates).

The drug is all natural, grows out of the ground for pete's sake, virtually impossible to overdose on, lasts for only an hour or so, and has even been recommended by many doctors to give to CANCER patients. I don't have a medical license, but I'm pretty sure whiskey isn't recommended for folks going through chemo.

So I'm curious - Rabbi - what do you have against the drug? Really, I'm baffled as to why you're so hostile against this plant. Did you have a bad experience when you were younger? I know my dad hated it because it made him way too paranoid, and that's fine. However I don't think that warrants you being so condescending towards others who do enjoy using it from time to time.

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he wont give you an honest answer because he doesn't know....its all about what he has heard.....people like Rabbi and Rotty think "Reefer Madness" is a real depiction of what happens when you smoke Pot....