Shouldnt obama agree w/gov shutdown, didnt he say raising debt ceiling is a failure of leadership?

[bedowin62]

Any liberals care to explain this contradiction?

why did obama say raising the Debt Ceiling is a "FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP" before he was in charge?
and why did he VOTE AGAINST IT if he didnt mean what he said??

 

[waltky]

Backlog gonna get even more backed up...

VA Could Furlough 15,000 Employees in Government Shutdown, Plan Shows
Sep 25, 2015 | The Veterans Affairs Department could furlough more than 15,000 employees, mostly from the Veterans Benefits Administration, in the event of a government shutdown next week.

If Congress fails to pass a budget for fiscal 2016, which begins Oct. 1, or a short-term spending resolution, dozens of VA programs and services will be halted or slowed under a contingency plan, according to Gary Hicks, a spokesman at the department who posted the details late Friday on the VA Advantage website. “This document is intended to ensure that VA can perform an orderly suspension of its programs and operations in the unlikely event of a shutdown,” he wrote. The posting notes that the plan is incomplete and will be updated as needed. Veterans groups are already weighing in on the looming crisis, rallying their memberships and warning lawmakers against allowing a shutdown.

When the VA dealt with the government shutdown of October 2013, it furloughed nearly 10,000 workers, about 7,000 from VBA and another 3,000 from its Office of Information Technology. The furloughs slowed the progress the department was making in bringing down the disability claims backlog, officials said at the time. Because VA receives advance appropriations for its health operations each year, much of VHA will be able to operate whether or not a shutdown occurs. This year, for the first time, the department is authorized to receive advance appropriations for fiscal 2017.

Within VHA, more than 300,000 employees will continue to work because of the 2016 advance appropriation authorized at the time the 2015 budget was passed for medical, medical support, compliance and facilities functions, according to the contingency plan. Another 5,700 employees will continue to work because of a two-year advance funding specifically for medical and prosthetic research – though some 1,080 employees covered under 2015 funding would be subject to furlough once that money runs out, it states.

MORE VA Could Furlough 15,000 Employees in Government Shutdown, Plan Shows | Military.com

 

[waltky]

Here we go again - raisin' the debt limit so we can go deeper in debt...

House could consider debt limit as well as stopgap spending: Speaker
Tue Sep 29, 2015 - As the U.S. Congress on Tuesday moved toward passing a short-term funding bill to avert government shutdowns this week, House Speaker John Boehner left open the possibility of tackling major fiscal measures in October, including raising the nation's borrowing limit.

When asked by a reporter whether he would advance a debt limit bill before resigning from Congress on Oct. 30, Boehner said: "We'll have to see. There are a number of issues that we're going to try to deal with over the coming month." Difficult fiscal issues - from increasing a debt limit that is forecast to be breached before year's end to settling on spending priorities through September 2016 - confront a Congress that has been rocked by Republican disarray that resulted in Boehner's retirement announcement last Friday.

Before those issues can be tackled, Congress must ensure the government has money to operate beyond Wednesday, when the current fiscal year ends and appropriations expire. The Senate is aiming to pass on either Tuesday or Wednesday a stopgap spending bill that would run from Oct. 1 through Dec. 11. "The bill before us would keep the government open. It would allow time for cooler heads to prevail," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said.

If the Senate passes the temporary spending plan, the House is expected to consider it quickly and send it to President Barack Obama for signing into law before a midnight Wednesday deadline.

House could consider debt limit as well as stopgap spending: Speaker

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Senate propels stopgap spending bill to keep government open
29 Sept.`15 | WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate is on track to pass a spending bill to prevent the government from shutting down this week, over the opposition of the most hardline conservative Republicans.

Tuesday's expected vote comes after a 77-19 tally on Monday easily beat a token filibuster threat. The House also is expected to approve the bill — stripped of a tea party-backed measure to take taxpayer funding away from Planned Parenthood — before Wednesday's midnight deadline. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky is under fire from tea party conservatives who demand that he fight harder against Planned Parenthood, even at the risk of a government shutdown. But McConnell is focused on protecting his 2016 re-election class.

One of the Republicans' presidential aspirants, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, took to the floor Tuesday morning to endorse a partial government shutdown as a way to gain leverage over President Barack Obama. "Why don't we start out with the negotiating position that we defund everything that's objectionable, all the wasteful spending, all the duplicative spending, let's defund it all and if there has to be negotiation, let's start from defunding it all and see where we get," Paul said. "But it would take courage because you have to let spending expire," he said. "If you're not willing to let the spending expire and start anew, you have no leverage."

Last week, Democrats led a filibuster of a Senate stopgap measure that would have blocked money to Planned Parenthood. Eight Republicans did not support that measure, leaving it short of a simple majority, much less the 60 votes required to overcome the filibuster. "This bill hardly represents my preferred method for funding the government, but it's now the most viable way forward after Democrats' extreme actions forced our country into this situation," McConnell said Tuesday. Republicans have targeted Planned Parenthood for years, but secretly recorded videos that raised questions about the organization's handling of fetal tissue provided to scientific researchers have outraged anti-abortion Republicans and put them on the offensive in their efforts against the group. The group says it is doing nothing wrong and isn't violating a federal law against profiting from such practices.

MORE Senate propels stopgap spending bill to keep government open

 

[Compost]

All the leftists must be busy celebrating the investigations into PP that found nothing remotely wrong with selling aborted babies' body parts for fun and profit.

So I'll lend a hand. You see, it's not a failure of leadership when obama fails. When obama fails, it is because everybody else didn't go along with him. Anyone who questions him or doesn't cooperate is a racist.

Now. Go to the back of the bus and be quiet.

 

[Stephanie]

oh that was just another Obama lie out of the 1000s that man has spewed for his own political gain. Lying comes easily to the Democrat/progressive

 

[jwoodie]

I would like to see a limited government shutdown with a Republican President. Would anyone notice?

 

[waltky]

For 10 weeks...

No Shutdown: House Approves Bill to Keep Government Open
Sep 30, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- Congress is sending legislation to President Barack Obama that would head off the threat of a government shutdown at midnight Wednesday.

Democrats helped embattled House GOP leaders pass the measure by a sweeping 277-151 vote with just hours to spare. The Senate passed the legislation by a 78-20 tally earlier in the day.

Approval of such stopgap measures used to be routine, but debate this year was delayed by tea party lawmakers who demanded that the must-pass bill be used to punish Planned Parenthood, stripping it of federal money because of its practice of supplying tissue from aborted fetuses for scientific research.

The bill provides 10 weeks to negotiate a more wide-ranging budget deal that would carry past the 2016 presidential election.

No Shutdown: House Approves Bill to Keep Government Open | Military.com

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - shut `er down...

US House Adjourns With No Budget Deal, Threatening Shutdown
Thursday 3rd December, 2015 - The U.S. House of Representatives has adjourned until next week without forging an agreement on a massive government spending bill. The $1 trillion spending bill has to be passed by both the House and Senate by December 11 to avoid a possible partial government shutdown.

Closed-door negotiations are still going on among Republicans, who are crafting the bill as the majority party. Talks are focused on which so-called policy riders - or special interest measures - will be attached to the spending bill. During the last budget negotiations in late September, a Republican policy rider defunding the women's health care and abortion provider Planned Parenthood threatened to trigger a shutdown, which was averted by a temporary measure keeping the government funded only until December 11. Among the policy additions causing controversy this time are deregulation measures Democrats say would undo provisions to protect the nation's clean air and water, and measures on Syrian and Iraqi refugees. President Obama has said he would veto any bill that halts the resettlement of Iraqi and Syrian refugees, saying they are already subject to exhaustive screening procedures and it would send the wrong signal about American values.

At Thursday's White House briefing, press secretary Josh Earnest said Republicans are risking a government shutdown because of special interest riders that benefit the biggest firms on Wall Street and companies that are the biggest polluters of Americans' air and water. Earnest said the president is not going to go along with that and he does not think that Americans will either. He said Republicans are going to have to demonstrate that they will work in a bipartisan way, and if they don't, he said: "We're looking at another government shutdown." Some House Republicans say their top priority in this current round of budget negotiations is attaching a measure requiring tougher screening of Iraqi and Syrian refugees to the spending bill. At a conservative forum Wednesday, Republican Rep. Raul Labrador of Idaho, said: "Our No. 1 priority is the Syrian refugee bill."

Ryan doin' his Abraham Lincoln immitation​

He and other House Freedom Caucus members said the fact that the House passed a bill calling for a pause in the Obama administration's Syrian Resettlement Program - with 47 Democrats voting for it - gives Republicans a strong starting position in what could turn into another budget showdown. The House bill bars refugees from Syria and Iraq from entering the United States unless top administration officials personally certify they pose no security threat, which officials say would effectively bar their entry. The refugee bill passed with a veto-proof majority in the House, but has not been taken up in the Senate. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi told reporters Thursday that the spending bill Republicans sent to Democrats is full of policy riders: "What they sent us back takes your breath awayhellip;This is a [Conservative Republican] Tea Party policy wish list."

Pelosi said she and other Democrats do however support a Republican bill that would tighten the visa waver program which allows some 20 million foreigners from friendly countries to come to the United States each year without a visa. The Republican bill would deny visa waivers to people who traveled to Iraq and Syria in the last five years, or have dual citizenship with those countries. It would also require the issue of difficult-to-forge passports with data chips. Republican Majority leader Kevin McCarthy said there will be a vote on the bill next week, but added it is not yet clear whether it will be a stand-alone measure or attached to the spending bill. There also is bipartisan support in the Senate for changes to the visa waver program. Unless both the House and Senate pass at least a temporary spending bill next week, some government agencies would begin to close after midnight on December 11.

US House Adjourns With No Budget Deal Threatening Shutdown

 

[konradv]

Any liberals care to explain this contradiction? why did obama say raising the Debt Ceiling is a "FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP" before he was in charge? and why did he VOTE AGAINST IT if he didnt mean what he said??

You'll have to ask the Republican leadership of the House. That's where spending bills originate.

 

[Rustic]

Any liberals care to explain this contradiction?

why did obama say raising the Debt Ceiling is a "FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP" before he was in charge?
and why did he VOTE AGAINST IT if he didnt mean what he said??

Barry is a dumba$$ that happens to be controlled by puppet masters....