Sick and tired of US debate on raising the min. wage.

[dblack]

What? Why would we legalize slavery? We fought a war over that shit.

Exactly.

So what was your point? Anything rational?

 

[Grumblenuts]

He has every right to express his opinion. As long as he doesn't get laws passed that lock people up if they disagree.

So yes, you're out of your fucking mind.

rightwinger, what did you do to dblack to make him think you were even capable of getting "laws passed that lock people up"?

The topic of the thread is minimum wage LAW.

Try
"US debate on raising the min. wage."

 

[dblack]

He has every right to express his opinion. As long as he doesn't get laws passed that lock people up if they disagree.

So yes, you're out of your fucking mind.

rightwinger, what did you do to dblack to make him think you were even capable of getting "laws passed that lock people up"?

The topic of the thread is minimum wage LAW.

Try
"US debate on raising the min. wage."

Ok... sorry. I thought maybe you wanted to have a sensible conversation. But, please, ramble on incoherently.

 

[rightwinger]

Time for those businesses to start kicking over some of that tax cut to their employees

Perhaps it is.

But it's ignorant to believe that those businesses are simply going to accept it and let it adversely affect their bottom line. They won't. If their costs to do business increase, so will their prices...

Sucks being a businessman because.....Shit happens
That shit may include:
Increased rent
Increased cost of supplies
Increased taxes
Competition from other businesses

It may even include having to pay your employees more

Businesses adapt to “Shit happening”
If they can’t, they fail

Yes. And they respond by cutting hours ,outsourcing ,and raising PRICES. So who gets the shaft in the end ,shit for brains? Try reading a book on economics.---But here is a simple equation for your simple mind. PRICE minus COST equals PROFIT. Labor and TAX are COSTS. Ponder that for a while,LIB.

If you run a burger shack and the price of ground beef doubles (it did) do outsource or Cut hours?
No you raise prices

 

[San Souci]

Time for those businesses to start kicking over some of that tax cut to their employees

Perhaps it is.

But it's ignorant to believe that those businesses are simply going to accept it and let it adversely affect their bottom line. They won't. If their costs to do business increase, so will their prices...

Sucks being a businessman because.....Shit happens
That shit may include:
Increased rent
Increased cost of supplies
Increased taxes
Competition from other businesses

It may even include having to pay your employees more

Businesses adapt to “Shit happening”
If they can’t, they fail

Yes. And they respond by cutting hours ,outsourcing ,and raising PRICES. So who gets the shaft in the end ,shit for brains? Try reading a book on economics.---But here is a simple equation for your simple mind. PRICE minus COST equals PROFIT. Labor and TAX are COSTS. Ponder that for a while,LIB.

If you run a burger shack and the price of ground beef doubles (it did) do outsource or Cut hours?
No you raise prices

No shit ,Sherlock. THAT was mentioned in the POST you answered. Try reading it again.

 

[Grumblenuts]

What? Why would we legalize slavery? We fought a war over that shit.

Exactly.

So what was your point? Anything rational?

So if one "agrees" to work for nothing, then you have a problem with it? Then you get govt involved?

 

[dblack]

Time for those businesses to start kicking over some of that tax cut to their employees

Perhaps it is.

But it's ignorant to believe that those businesses are simply going to accept it and let it adversely affect their bottom line. They won't. If their costs to do business increase, so will their prices...

Sucks being a businessman because.....Shit happens
That shit may include:
Increased rent
Increased cost of supplies
Increased taxes
Competition from other businesses

It may even include having to pay your employees more

Businesses adapt to “Shit happening”
If they can’t, they fail

Yes. And they respond by cutting hours ,outsourcing ,and raising PRICES. So who gets the shaft in the end ,shit for brains? Try reading a book on economics.---But here is a simple equation for your simple mind. PRICE minus COST equals PROFIT. Labor and TAX are COSTS. Ponder that for a while,LIB.

If you run a burger shack and the price of ground beef doubles (it did) do outsource or Cut hours?
No you raise prices

Right. Inflation. But, because you'll likely lose business - at first a least - you'll also look for ways to cut costs, payroll being a likely target. You could also file for bankruptcy.

 

[dblack]

What? Why would we legalize slavery? We fought a war over that shit.

Exactly.

So what was your point? Anything rational?

So if one "agrees" to work for nothing, then you have a problem with it?

What??? No, I have no problem at all with volunteering. You're delusional. Are you even reading my posts?

 

[rightwinger]

If customers would pay higher prices for all their products and services, employers could pay workers more.

When we gave business a 40 percent cut in taxes...
I, as a customer, did not see a corresponding decrease in the price they were charging me.
They just kept the money

Not all profits get passed to the customer neither do all increases in costs

Not all profits get passed to the customer

That's terrible!!!

Where do all the profits go?

Lets see...
Businesses saw a 40 percent decline in taxes, where did the money go?

Did they pass it down to their employees? No
Did they cut prices? No
Did they expand? No

They kept the extra profit

 

[rightwinger]

Time for those businesses to start kicking over some of that tax cut to their employees

Perhaps it is.

But it's ignorant to believe that those businesses are simply going to accept it and let it adversely affect their bottom line. They won't. If their costs to do business increase, so will their prices...

Sucks being a businessman because.....Shit happens
That shit may include:
Increased rent
Increased cost of supplies
Increased taxes
Competition from other businesses

It may even include having to pay your employees more

Businesses adapt to “Shit happening”
If they can’t, they fail

Yes. And they respond by cutting hours ,outsourcing ,and raising PRICES. So who gets the shaft in the end ,shit for brains? Try reading a book on economics.---But here is a simple equation for your simple mind. PRICE minus COST equals PROFIT. Labor and TAX are COSTS. Ponder that for a while,LIB.

If you run a burger shack and the price of ground beef doubles (it did) do outsource or Cut hours?
No you raise prices

Right. Inflation. But, because you'll likely lose business - at first a least - you'll also look for ways to cut costs, payroll being a likely target. You could also file for bankruptcy.

We still got a lot of burger joints. Even though the price of a burger nearly doubled

 

[San Souci]

Time for those businesses to start kicking over some of that tax cut to their employees

Perhaps it is.

But it's ignorant to believe that those businesses are simply going to accept it and let it adversely affect their bottom line. They won't. If their costs to do business increase, so will their prices...

Sucks being a businessman because.....Shit happens
That shit may include:
Increased rent
Increased cost of supplies
Increased taxes
Competition from other businesses

It may even include having to pay your employees more

Businesses adapt to “Shit happening”
If they can’t, they fail

Yes. And they respond by cutting hours ,outsourcing ,and raising PRICES. So who gets the shaft in the end ,shit for brains? Try reading a book on economics.---But here is a simple equation for your simple mind. PRICE minus COST equals PROFIT. Labor and TAX are COSTS. Ponder that for a while,LIB.

If you run a burger shack and the price of ground beef doubles (it did) do outsource or Cut hours?
No you raise prices

Right. Inflation. But, because you'll likely lose business - at first a least - you'll also look for ways to cut costs, payroll being a likely target. You could also file for bankruptcy.

Which many ,if not MOST ,of small business will do after the wage increase and TAX increase, PHEW! Democrats would fuck up a wet dream.

 

[San Souci]

If customers would pay higher prices for all their products and services, employers could pay workers more.

When we gave business a 40 percent cut in taxes...
I, as a customer, did not see a corresponding decrease in the price they were charging me.
They just kept the money

Not all profits get passed to the customer neither do all increases in costs

Not all profits get passed to the customer

That's terrible!!!

Where do all the profits go?

Lets see...
Businesses saw a 40 percent decline in taxes, where did the money go?

Did they pass it down to their employees? No
Did they cut prices? No
Did they expand? No

They kept the extra profit

Only according to CNN. Business BOOMED under Trump. It will SUCK under President Bezos.

 

[danielpalos]

How much welfare will be necessary when businesses lay off those employees and they earn zero?

Higher paid labor creates more in demand and generate more in tax revenue; the multiplier will take care of the rest since employers will eventually need to hire more people to meet more demand for products and services.

 

[danielpalos]

It's the opposite with out those jobs more people would be on welfare

Only until higher paid labor creates more demand while generating more tax revenue.

 

[danielpalos]

You really like using the "nanny-state" as an excuse, dontcha? Sounds like you agree the nanny state is bullshit and we should get rid of it. I'm right there with you.

Raise the minimum wage until we abolish the nanny-State!

 

[danielpalos]

Only the FEDERAL MW stayed the same. Various cities and states set their own, higher ones. That's what flexibility means.

State and national Standards are more comprehensive, economically.

 

[danielpalos]

The poor ARE poor for only 3 reasons. Stupidity ,ignorance ,or just plain SLOTH. Those who don't prepare for life will not have much life to live. Are there no Prisons? Are there no workhouses?

You simply prefer to "hate on the Poor". Are you on the right wing and the South?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Sorry, people. Apparently dblack has made it so that no volunteer "work" shall be tolerated anymore. Non-profits are right out. No more cash economy. Charity. Our "minimum wage LAW" has put a stop to all that! Wage police are now scouring every nook and cranny for anyone daft enough to work for less than MW and tossing them in jail. And none too lightly either from what I've heard!

 

[San Souci]

The poor ARE poor for only 3 reasons. Stupidity ,ignorance ,or just plain SLOTH. Those who don't prepare for life will not have much life to live. Are there no Prisons? Are there no workhouses?

You simply prefer to "hate on the Poor".

Would the 'Homeless" be better off in the Street? Or in a fairly clean Jail?

 

[Papageorgio]

Joe Biden, as do most economist wants to raise the min. wage to 15.00 an hour, from the poultry 7.25 as it stands today. Most workers of course do not make 7.25 an hour as we all know, most are making btwn 8-12 an hour, with 12.00 being the standard. However, this debate has got to come to an end and real work, not words have to prevail this time.

For the last 12 years Wall Street as has Main Street retailers via online venues, all have seen profits soar to historic levels and Trump rallied and braged on how rich the rich was getting especially his last 4 years, not only with tax cuts but with market growths...so this bullshit about ppl will lose jobs...tired of hearing about it.

And waiting on a recovery from this pandemic will take another decade, if not more with so many business's, closing. However, NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY WILL MAKE A DIME, OUTSIDE OF SPECULATORS AND HEDGE FUNDERS on WALL STREET, WITHOUT CONSUMER SPENDING.

Its time Biden, congress and the senate take the effort, the vote and raise the min. wage to a level that can not only help families regroup again with a new job focus, but also help business's grow also. Amazon raised wages profits only grew. Some companies will have to fold, welcome to life!! But at least the owner can go out and find a job paying 15 bucks an hour vs 7.25.

The average worker makes more than 8-12 an hour. The average worker makes about $20 or more an hour. Get your facts straight before you post and spare us your lack of knowledge.

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What is a poultry wage? You pay your chickens?

Your post is uninformed nonsense.