Sick of the Carping About Wal-Mart!

[PoliticalChic]

All this talk about Walmart has inspired me!

I'm leaving now to spend a couple of hundred bucks with them.

Thanks for the inspiration all!

Don't miss the produce/grocery section!

Walmart Weekly Ad - Valley Stream

 

[jillian]

All this talk about Walmart has inspired me!

I'm leaving now to spend a couple of hundred bucks with them.

Thanks for the inspiration all!

Don't miss the produce/grocery section!

Walmart Weekly Ad - Valley Stream

you spamming ads now, PC?

 

[PoliticalChic]

All this talk about Walmart has inspired me!

I'm leaving now to spend a couple of hundred bucks with them.

Thanks for the inspiration all!

Don't miss the produce/grocery section!

Walmart Weekly Ad - Valley Stream

you spamming ads now, PC?

I was rubbing it in to you Libs who hate success.


Gotcha.

 

[HenryBHough]

Back from Wally World.

Bought all but two of the items on my list. I had priced the list previously at three other stores (no single other store had all of the items). The three-store cost totaled $198.88. The total for the two items I couldn't get at Walmart came to $36. So the basis for comparison was $198.88-$36.00 or $162.88. At Walmart I paid a total of $122.99. Saving of $39.89. OK, so I drove 7 miles and will "give you" $10 as cost of driving so the saving might have been only $29.89 or just shy of 20%. The other two items I ordered from Amazon and they came, entirely coincidentally, to $36 and with free shipping. Those will come right to my door in about 5-6 days so I won't even have to drive to the one store (of the 3 original attempts) that didn't stock them but would special order them for me to arrive in a week or two.

Was it worth it?

For me t'was OK but not as good as I had hoped still, banks are paying about 1/10th of 1% on deposits so a 20% saving felt comfy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Back from Wally World.

Bought all but two of the items on my list. I had priced the list previously at three other stores (no single other store had all of the items). The three-store cost totaled $198.88. The total for the two items I couldn't get at Walmart came to $36. So the basis for comparison was $198.88-$36.00 or $162.88. At Walmart I paid a total of $122.99. Saving of $39.89. OK, so I drove 7 miles and will "give you" $10 as cost of driving so the saving might have been only $29.89 or just shy of 20%. The other two items I ordered from Amazon and they came, entirely coincidentally, to $36 and with free shipping. Those will come right to my door in about 5-6 days so I won't even have to drive to the one store (of the 3 original attempts) that didn't stock them but would special order them for me to arrive in a week or two.

Was it worth it?

For me t'was OK but not as good as I had hoped still, banks are paying about 1/10th of 1% on deposits so a 20% saving felt comfy.

Well....you could go around the neighborhood and collect soda cans.....

 

[HenryBHough]

Well....you could go around the neighborhood and collect soda cans.....

In my pre-teen years I frequented a beach near where I lived. Soda came in bottles then - they were worth 2-cents each when returned to the concession stand. Quart size (soda or milk) were worth a nickle. Bleach bottles - gallon size - were worth a whole quarter. What in hell bleach bottles were doing on the beach is an open question. Perhaps they have been diverted to some other purpose? Anyway, at the time the beach was busy enough that one could do better than minimum wage (then 75-cents/hour) recycling.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Well....you could go around the neighborhood and collect soda cans.....

In my pre-teen years I frequented a beach near where I lived. Soda came in bottles then - they were worth 2-cents each when returned to the concession stand. Quart size (soda or milk) were worth a nickle. Bleach bottles - gallon size - were worth a whole quarter. What in hell bleach bottles were doing on the beach is an open question. Perhaps they have been diverted to some other purpose? Anyway, at the time the beach was busy enough that one could do better than minimum wage (then 75-cents/hour) recycling.

"... one could do better than minimum wage (then 75-cents/hour) recycling."


Here, in lots of areas of Brooklyn, we see elderly immigrant ladies with HUGE plastic bags collecting soda cans, going through garbage cans...

...my children refer to them as 'the syndicate'....and we estimate several hundred dollars a week- tax free- in can-return fees.


God bless 'em.

 

[freedombecki]

All this talk about Walmart has inspired me!

I'm leaving now to spend a couple of hundred bucks with them.

Thanks for the inspiration all!

Oh, that reminds me! I need a little air conditioner. Wally has 'em!

 

[Kimura]

They don't receive welfare. In fact, they pay billions in taxes.

You sound confused. Again.

Let's try this this again: Wal-Mart, which is one of the country's largest private sector employers, is also the biggest recipient of government aid. Walmart employees comprise the biggest group of Medicaid recipients (I neglected to mention that).

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

What part of this doesn't register? This is a hugely profitable company, why are they receiving government subsidies?

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

 

[HenryBHough]

Let's try this this again: Wal-Mart, which is one of the country's largest private sector employers, is also the biggest recipient of government aid. Walmart employees comprise the biggest group of Medicaid recipients (I neglected to mention that).

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

What part of this doesn't register? This is a hugely profitable company, why are they receiving government subsidies?

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

There's one simple way to impress upon Walmart anyone's perceived need for them to pay more for labor that's no better. That's to stop shopping there entirely. I would imagine that if all liberals who carp about Walmart did exactly that they'd be closing stores all over the place. Especially in those precious "blue" states.

Wouldn't they?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let's try this this again: Wal-Mart, which is one of the country's largest private sector employers, is also the biggest recipient of government aid. Walmart employees comprise the biggest group of Medicaid recipients (I neglected to mention that).

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

What part of this doesn't register? This is a hugely profitable company, why are they receiving government subsidies?

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

Was there any specific part of your link that proved your claim?

Or have you given up trying already?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's try this this again: Wal-Mart, which is one of the country's largest private sector employers, is also the biggest recipient of government aid. Walmart employees comprise the biggest group of Medicaid recipients (I neglected to mention that).

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

What part of this doesn't register? This is a hugely profitable company, why are they receiving government subsidies?

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

1. "Prepared by the Democratic staff....."

What hogwash.


This is why, with very little effort, you have become the source of enough hot air to float a blimp.



2. Now, the truth:

"Older socialists dreamed of a world in which all classes would share in the fruits of the world. Yet when a permutation of this emerges, it is resented if it represents capitalism. An institution beyond the imaginings of socialists of old: Wal-Mart. Within Wal-Mart we see a cornucopia of goods designed to improve human well-being, at prices that make them affordable for all. Millions of jobs are created, and prosperity is spread throughout areas where it was sorely needed. An entity owned by share-holders, people of mostly moderate incomes who have invested their savings, worker-capitalists."
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2007&month=05


3. More truth:

Based on the caliber of posts, you should concentrate on your full-time job, Garden Gnome.

 

[Kimura]

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

Was there any specific part of your link that proved your claim?

Or have you given up trying already?

You didn't read it which is very telling. They chose Wisconsin as the state in their study because the data is the most up-to-date. This allowed them to utilize the state's Medicaid information to discern the government subsidy for providing food stamps and health care programs to the Wal-Mart associates who require such help.

They took into account the total number of Wal-Mart employees and stores in the state of Wisconsin and the total per-person costs of the state's Badgercare program. They estimated that total cost of government funded health care to be $252K per year per Wal-Mart store that has 300 employees.

They then calculated some of the other welfare programs available to these employees and their families on the state's Medicaid program (Badgercare). If we conclude that employees' families take advantage of some these programs, we go from $252K to over $900K

I will admit the study's secondary estimate is based the logical conclusion that employees who qualify for additional programs with take advantage of them. Either way, these numbers a reality check.

 

[Kimura]

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

1. "Prepared by the Democratic staff....."

What hogwash.


This is why, with very little effort, you have become the source of enough hot air to float a blimp.



2. Now, the truth:

"Older socialists dreamed of a world in which all classes would share in the fruits of the world. Yet when a permutation of this emerges, it is resented if it represents capitalism. An institution beyond the imaginings of socialists of old: Wal-Mart. Within Wal-Mart we see a cornucopia of goods designed to improve human well-being, at prices that make them affordable for all. Millions of jobs are created, and prosperity is spread throughout areas where it was sorely needed. An entity owned by share-holders, people of mostly moderate incomes who have invested their savings, worker-capitalists."
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2007&month=05


3. More truth:

Based on the caliber of posts, you should concentrate on your full-time job, Garden Gnome.

I know conservatives don't like things like data sets, statistics, etc, so I'm not going to take your disjointed and crazy posts personally.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

Was there any specific part of your link that proved your claim?

Or have you given up trying already?

You didn't read it which is very telling. They chose Wisconsin as the state in their study because the data is the most up-to-date. This allowed them to utilize the state's Medicaid information to discern the government subsidy for providing food stamps and health care programs to the Wal-Mart associates who require such help.

They took into account the total number of Wal-Mart employees and stores in the state of Wisconsin and the total per-person costs of the state's Badgercare program. They estimated that total cost of government funded health care to be $252K per year per Wal-Mart store that has 300 employees.

They then calculated some of the other welfare programs available to these employees and their families on the state's Medicaid program (Badgercare). If we conclude that employees' families take advantage of some these programs, we go from $252K to over $900K

I will admit the study's secondary estimate is based the logical conclusion that employees who qualify for additional programs with take advantage of them. Either way, these numbers a reality check.

You didn't read it which is very telling.

It's telling that I didn't read your 20 pages of BS, hoping your evidence was in there somewhere.

If you'd like to tell me which page proves your claim, I'll have a look.

 

[Ernie S.]

The truth about this "successful" company ...

Can we have an accounting of the billions he receives from taxpayers?

 

[Ernie S.]

Let's try this this again: Wal-Mart, which is one of the country's largest private sector employers, is also the biggest recipient of government aid. Walmart employees comprise the biggest group of Medicaid recipients (I neglected to mention that).

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

What part of this doesn't register? This is a hugely profitable company, why are they receiving government subsidies?

is also the biggest recipient of government aid.

What programs? How much do they receive? Show me.

Their associates, many of them paid such a pathetic wage, receive around a thousand per year in public assistance. These are large government subsidies.

Yes, the government gives subsidies to poor people.
Now what aid does WalMart receive?

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

No! It boils down to accepting responsibility for your actions. If you got pregnant in high school and didn't graduate, you will probably end up with a Walmart job. If you didn't want to put in some work back in school or were afraid you wolud be accused of "acting white" if you did, you'll probably end up at best, flipping burgers at Mickey D's or selling drugs, taking drugs, going to prison or getting shot.

I got an education and I worked damned hard to make myself worth more to my employer. I'll be damned if I'll pay for you to enjoy the same life style I have when YOU fucked up.

Tough shit, Jack!

 

[The Professor]

What cracks me up is people who go on about Walmart wages, when local mom & pop retailers pay the same shit wages (with less benefits) and get the victim label.

Retail is low skill and pays shit. It isn't a Walmart thing, it is shitty job thing.

Correct, and it was those in the poor and middle classes who rejected the high prices and limited choices of the mom-and-pop stores in favor of the retail giants with their lower prices and greater variety. They sure as hell don't want to go back to the old ways.

 

[Ernie S.]

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

Was there any specific part of your link that proved your claim?

Or have you given up trying already?

You didn't read it which is very telling. They chose Wisconsin as the state in their study because the data is the most up-to-date. This allowed them to utilize the state's Medicaid information to discern the government subsidy for providing food stamps and health care programs to the Wal-Mart associates who require such help.

They took into account the total number of Wal-Mart employees and stores in the state of Wisconsin and the total per-person costs of the state's Badgercare program. They estimated that total cost of government funded health care to be $252K per year per Wal-Mart store that has 300 employees.

They then calculated some of the other welfare programs available to these employees and their families on the state's Medicaid program (Badgercare). If we conclude that employees' families take advantage of some these programs, we go from $252K to over $900K

I will admit the study's secondary estimate is based the logical conclusion that employees who qualify for additional programs with take advantage of them. Either way, these numbers a reality check.

That's total bullshit! The money goes to people, not WalMart. It goes to people with zero or next to zero skills, who likely are working part time. It goes to people who, if not employed by WalMart would not be working at all.

If we use your logic, if the state is providing, let's say 1/3 of these people's sustenance, Walmart is saving Wisconsin 2.7 million/store

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Low-Wage Drag on Our Economy: Wal-Mart’s low wages and their effect on taxpayers and economic growth

By the way, Wal-Mart gets away with it because they simply can, that's just reality. However, the answer to addressing poverty boils down to fiscal and public policies.

1. "Prepared by the Democratic staff....."

What hogwash.


This is why, with very little effort, you have become the source of enough hot air to float a blimp.



2. Now, the truth:

"Older socialists dreamed of a world in which all classes would share in the fruits of the world. Yet when a permutation of this emerges, it is resented if it represents capitalism. An institution beyond the imaginings of socialists of old: Wal-Mart. Within Wal-Mart we see a cornucopia of goods designed to improve human well-being, at prices that make them affordable for all. Millions of jobs are created, and prosperity is spread throughout areas where it was sorely needed. An entity owned by share-holders, people of mostly moderate incomes who have invested their savings, worker-capitalists."
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2007&month=05


3. More truth:

Based on the caliber of posts, you should concentrate on your full-time job, Garden Gnome.

I know conservatives don't like things like data sets, statistics, etc, so I'm not going to take your disjointed and crazy posts personally.

Don't be hasty.....If I've said anything that you find insulting, please believe me.