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Yerh but the OP Is about winning the war irrespective of the reasons or personalities involved!
Exactly.
The War is won.
24 voted we LOST the war in Iraq, a view that is totally divorced from reality.
They only wished and hoped for a loss.
Y'all might have better luck rooting against the US in Afghanistan.
I hope the left fails and the US succeeds there as well
... regardless of the political affiliation of the current C-in-C.
If Iraq Vets said it was a huge mistake to go there and we lost you would just accuse them of being whiners or unPatriotic. Your position is based not on information but simply a Bullho
rn chair.
Oh, and this approach of trying to say those who don't support the war also don't support our troops is rather moldy. Got anything new or just more useless emotional strings?
What fantasy did you learn this one from?
Never mind. I see you are a nutjob. Keep on at it.
Exactly.
The War is won.
24 voted we LOST the war in Iraq, a view that is totally divorced from reality.
They only wished and hoped for a loss.
Y'all might have better luck rooting against the US in Afghanistan.
I hope the left fails and the US succeeds there as well
... regardless of the political affiliation of the current C-in-C.
If Iraq Vets said it was a huge mistake to go there and we lost you would just accuse them of being whiners or unPatriotic. Your position is based not on information but simply a Bullho
rn chair.
Oh, and this approach of trying to say those who don't support the war also don't support our troops is rather moldy. Got anything new or just more useless emotional strings?
If the troops didn't win the war, who did?
Quit sobbing over victory, all is not lost...there's still a war you can help to lose.
(Edit) P.S.- I am a Vet...I speak to soldiers face to face and the vast majority believes in the mission in Iraq and believe this war is won.
If Iraq Vets said it was a huge mistake to go there and we lost you would just accuse them of being whiners or unPatriotic. Your position is based not on information but simply a Bullho
rn chair.
Oh, and this approach of trying to say those who don't support the war also don't support our troops is rather moldy. Got anything new or just more useless emotional strings?
If the troops didn't win the war, who did?
Quit sobbing over victory, all is not lost...there's still a war you can help to lose.
(Edit) P.S.- I am a Vet...I speak to soldiers face to face and the vast majority believes in the mission in Iraq and believe this war is won.
The only winners are those who are profiting.
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.Iraq's economy is dominated by the oil sector, which has traditionally provided about 95% of foreign exchange earnings. Although looting, insurgent attacks, and sabotage have undermined economy rebuilding efforts, economic activity is beginning to pick up in areas recently secured by the US military surge. Oil exports are around levels seen before Operation Iraqi Freedom, and total government revenues have benefited from high oil prices. Despite political uncertainty, Iraq is making some progress in building the institutions needed to implement economic policy and has negotiated a debt reduction agreement with the Paris Club and a new Stand-By Arrangement with the IMF. Iraq has received pledges for $13.5 billion in foreign aid for 2004-07 from outside of the US, more than $33 billion in total pledges. The International Compact with Iraq was established in May 2007 to integrate Iraq into the regional and global economy, and the Iraqi government is seeking to pass laws to strengthen its economy. This legislation includes a hydrocarbon law to establish a modern legal framework to allow Iraq to develop its resources and a revenue sharing law to equitably divide oil revenues within the nation, although both are still bogged down in discussions. The Central Bank has been successful in controlling inflation through appreciation of the dinar against the US dollar. Reducing corruption and implementing structural reforms, such as bank restructuring and developing the private sector, will be key to Iraq's economic success.
GDP:
$102.4 billion (2007 est.)
GDP growth rate:
5.9%
GDP per capita:
$3,700
If the troops didn't win the war, who did?
Quit sobbing over victory, all is not lost...there's still a war you can help to lose.
(Edit) P.S.- I am a Vet...I speak to soldiers face to face and the vast majority believes in the mission in Iraq and believe this war is won.
The only winners are those who are profiting.
Which would seem to be the Iraqis:
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.Iraq's economy is dominated by the oil sector, which has traditionally provided about 95% of foreign exchange earnings. Although looting, insurgent attacks, and sabotage have undermined economy rebuilding efforts, economic activity is beginning to pick up in areas recently secured by the US military surge. Oil exports are around levels seen before Operation Iraqi Freedom, and total government revenues have benefited from high oil prices. Despite political uncertainty, Iraq is making some progress in building the institutions needed to implement economic policy and has negotiated a debt reduction agreement with the Paris Club and a new Stand-By Arrangement with the IMF. Iraq has received pledges for $13.5 billion in foreign aid for 2004-07 from outside of the US, more than $33 billion in total pledges. The International Compact with Iraq was established in May 2007 to integrate Iraq into the regional and global economy, and the Iraqi government is seeking to pass laws to strengthen its economy. This legislation includes a hydrocarbon law to establish a modern legal framework to allow Iraq to develop its resources and a revenue sharing law to equitably divide oil revenues within the nation, although both are still bogged down in discussions. The Central Bank has been successful in controlling inflation through appreciation of the dinar against the US dollar. Reducing corruption and implementing structural reforms, such as bank restructuring and developing the private sector, will be key to Iraq's economic success.
GDP:
$102.4 billion (2007 est.)
GDP growth rate:
5.9%
GDP per capita:
$3,700
The only winners are those who are profiting.
Which would seem to be the Iraqis:
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.Iraq's economy is dominated by the oil sector, which has traditionally provided about 95% of foreign exchange earnings. Although looting, insurgent attacks, and sabotage have undermined economy rebuilding efforts, economic activity is beginning to pick up in areas recently secured by the US military surge. Oil exports are around levels seen before Operation Iraqi Freedom, and total government revenues have benefited from high oil prices. Despite political uncertainty, Iraq is making some progress in building the institutions needed to implement economic policy and has negotiated a debt reduction agreement with the Paris Club and a new Stand-By Arrangement with the IMF. Iraq has received pledges for $13.5 billion in foreign aid for 2004-07 from outside of the US, more than $33 billion in total pledges. The International Compact with Iraq was established in May 2007 to integrate Iraq into the regional and global economy, and the Iraqi government is seeking to pass laws to strengthen its economy. This legislation includes a hydrocarbon law to establish a modern legal framework to allow Iraq to develop its resources and a revenue sharing law to equitably divide oil revenues within the nation, although both are still bogged down in discussions. The Central Bank has been successful in controlling inflation through appreciation of the dinar against the US dollar. Reducing corruption and implementing structural reforms, such as bank restructuring and developing the private sector, will be key to Iraq's economic success.
GDP:
$102.4 billion (2007 est.)
GDP growth rate:
5.9%
GDP per capita:
$3,700
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
The only winners are those who are profiting.
Which would seem to be the Iraqis:
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.Iraq's economy is dominated by the oil sector, which has traditionally provided about 95% of foreign exchange earnings. Although looting, insurgent attacks, and sabotage have undermined economy rebuilding efforts, economic activity is beginning to pick up in areas recently secured by the US military surge. Oil exports are around levels seen before Operation Iraqi Freedom, and total government revenues have benefited from high oil prices. Despite political uncertainty, Iraq is making some progress in building the institutions needed to implement economic policy and has negotiated a debt reduction agreement with the Paris Club and a new Stand-By Arrangement with the IMF. Iraq has received pledges for $13.5 billion in foreign aid for 2004-07 from outside of the US, more than $33 billion in total pledges. The International Compact with Iraq was established in May 2007 to integrate Iraq into the regional and global economy, and the Iraqi government is seeking to pass laws to strengthen its economy. This legislation includes a hydrocarbon law to establish a modern legal framework to allow Iraq to develop its resources and a revenue sharing law to equitably divide oil revenues within the nation, although both are still bogged down in discussions. The Central Bank has been successful in controlling inflation through appreciation of the dinar against the US dollar. Reducing corruption and implementing structural reforms, such as bank restructuring and developing the private sector, will be key to Iraq's economic success.
GDP:
$102.4 billion (2007 est.)
GDP growth rate:
5.9%
GDP per capita:
$3,700
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
Which would seem to be the Iraqis:
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
And Saddam was killing and hurting people in Iraq for over 25 years. At least we have turned their government over to them and for the first time in history they are actually free to decide for themselves what they want in their country. As a people.
Which would seem to be the Iraqis:
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
What important factor is that? That it contradicts your entire view of the situation?
And we were pikers compared to what Saddam did.
TOTAL F'ING bullshit. Support of the TROOPS has NOTHING to do with support of the leaders who put them there.
Yerh but the OP Is about winning the war irrespective of the reasons or personalities involved!
Exactly.
The War is won.
24 voted we LOST the war in Iraq, a view that is totally divorced from reality.
They only wished and hoped for a loss.
They may have better luck rooting against the US in Afghanistan.
I hope the left fails and the US succeeds there as well...
... regardless of the political affiliation of the current C-in-C.
Which would seem to be the Iraqis:
A 5.9% growth rate in GDP is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe Obama could learn a thing or two about growth from Iraq.
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
And Saddam was killing and hurting people in Iraq for over 25 years. At least we have turned their government over to them and for the first time in history they are actually free to decide for themselves what they want in their country. As a people.
Yerh but the OP Is about winning the war irrespective of the reasons or personalities involved!
Exactly.
The War is won.
24 voted we LOST the war in Iraq, a view that is totally divorced from reality.
They only wished and hoped for a loss.
They may have better luck rooting against the US in Afghanistan.
I hope the left fails and the US succeeds there as well...
... regardless of the political affiliation of the current C-in-C.
Well if putting Iraq under the same rulling religious type of laws that IRAN has then surely we "won". If putting the MAJORITY into power over the MINORITY then we "won". If Iraq turns into a BLOOD BATH of Shia VS Sunni the second we leave is then that is a "win". The FACT is that these opposing sects of Islam have been waring for a MILLENIA and if you think we did ANYTHING but to DESTABILIZE the region then you know NOTHING about the ME. The FACT is that as sick a fuck as Saddam was he kept Iraq from self imploding. Why do you think GHW Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld didn't take Saddam out in GWI? You just answer that one little question.
WE WON NOTHING YOU FOOL! When Iraq goes up in flames it will be due to OUR intervention in their INTERNAL politics. The blood of the minority will be on OUR hands!
WE WON NOTHING YOU FOOL! When Iraq goes up in flames it will be due to OUR intervention in their INTERNAL politics. The blood of the minority will be on OUR hands!
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
And Saddam was killing and hurting people in Iraq for over 25 years. At least we have turned their government over to them and for the first time in history they are actually free to decide for themselves what they want in their country. As a people.
We killed and injured far far far far more people than Saddam. Do you see the problem? If you want to justify invading iraq based on saddam killing iraqis then you must advocate a nation invades and occupies america. Or were the iraqis we killed somehow less dead than those saddam killed?
As for claiming we gave iraq to iraqis......huh? You can't be serious. First of all you have to know we are not letting iraq do anything without approval. Second, how the hell can you claim they are free while a foreign military occupation is up their ass?
The real kicker? Claiming iraq is free for the first time. Apparently you are not aware this is the first time Iraq has had a Constitution with democratic elections.
We've been killing and hurting people in Iraq for 19 straight years and you want to say they are the winners? You're also either very ignorant or very dishonest to reference the GDP structure without taking into account obvious important factors.
And Saddam was killing and hurting people in Iraq for over 25 years. At least we have turned their government over to them and for the first time in history they are actually free to decide for themselves what they want in their country. As a people.
Yeah and we SUPPORTED Saddam for 25 years. Does that make us complicant in the slaughter the Iraqi Kurds? Did you know that during GWII that the CIA was arming the Norther Kurds and giving them intel to overthrow Saddam? Did you know that after GWI we left the Kurds with their dicks hanging out. We ABANDONED THEM!!
