Slut Or Not??

[Scout]

Why does someone that has $150K to pay for law school need someone else to pay for her medical bills?

So you think the school should be able to mandate you buy their insurance but that you shouldn't get anything in return for it?

 

[Si modo]

Why does someone that has $150K to pay for law school need someone else to pay for her medical bills?

So you think the school should be able to mandate you buy their insurance but that you shouldn't get anything in return for it?

The school does not mandate that their students buy the Georgetown HC insurance. They mandate that the students carry HC insurance. If they don't have their own, then they buy what Georgetown offers.

What is this nothing in return you speak of?

 

[Scout]

Way back when women were fighting just to get into colleges and universities, fighting to get into classes and courses, if one of us had gotten up and demanded that birth control be the obligation of the university it would have permanently excluded women from even entering these institutions. Women just don't want to be taken seriously. They get so far, then they flop their legs open and it ruins us every time.

Ms. Fluke wants her insurance, for which she pays premiums, to pay for birth control. She didn't ask anything of the school financially. Please watch testimony before you comment on it.

 

[Katzndogz]

The amount is immaterial. The fact that she wants a woman's sexual activity underwritten by the University is the issue, even if it was only a buck.

 

[Scout]

Why does someone that has $150K to pay for law school need someone else to pay for her medical bills?

So you think the school should be able to mandate you buy their insurance but that you shouldn't get anything in return for it?

The school does not mandate that their students buy the Georgetown HC insurance. They mandate that the students carry HC insurance. If they don't have their own, then they buy what Georgetown offers.

What is this nothing in return you speak of?

No prescription drug coverage for the drugs you require even though they CLAIM to have prescription drug coverage......

 

[Scout]

The amount is immaterial. The fact that she wants a woman's sexual activity underwritten by the University is the issue, even if it was only a buck.

She does not ask the university to underwrite anything.

 

[Katzndogz]

Way back when women were fighting just to get into colleges and universities, fighting to get into classes and courses, if one of us had gotten up and demanded that birth control be the obligation of the university it would have permanently excluded women from even entering these institutions. Women just don't want to be taken seriously. They get so far, then they flop their legs open and it ruins us every time.

Ms. Fluke wants her insurance, for which she pays premiums, to pay for birth control. She didn't ask anything of the school financially. Please watch testimony before you comment on it.

Wouldn't that correctly be "for which everyone pays premiums"?

 

[Si modo]

So you think the school should be able to mandate you buy their insurance but that you shouldn't get anything in return for it?

The school does not mandate that their students buy the Georgetown HC insurance. They mandate that the students carry HC insurance. If they don't have their own, then they buy what Georgetown offers.

What is this nothing in return you speak of?

No prescription drug coverage for the drugs you require even though they CLAIM to have prescription drug coverage......

Bullshit.

If they go to the student health center, not much is available to them. That's not unusual for any university infirmatory. If they go to Georgetown U Hospital, 80% of prescriptions are covered. And, they cover 70% of prescriptions if they go outside of service.

http://studentaffairs.georgetown.edu/insurance/premierplanbooklet.pdf#page=7

 

[Scout]

I don't give a flying shit if she is a slut or not. I DO care that the Obama administration is blaspheming the First Amendment, though.

He does that a lot.

Since a college is not a religion, there is no conflict with the First Amendment.

 

[Si modo]

I don't give a flying shit if she is a slut or not. I DO care that the Obama administration is blaspheming the First Amendment, though.

He does that a lot.

Since a college is not a religion, there is no conflict with the First Amendment.

In case you haven't heard, Georgetown University is not only private, it's Jesuit - founded and run.

 

[Scout]

Trojan ENZ Lubricated Condoms - Walmart.com

65 cents each.

Anyone going to Georgetown can afford that.

Remind me again why it's anyone else's responsibility to pay for this woman's choices?

Ya' know, Dave....we have to give credit where credit is due...

the Obama strategy of spotlighting this fake contraception issue- hundreds of posts on the subject....
...has kept the conversation far away from the flops and failures of the Pretender of Pennsylvania Avenue.


Kudos, Barack!

He learned politics in Chicago. Nothing is ever as it seems.

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Do, DOCTOR....explain how a condom is going to help a woman that needs hormones for a medical condition. How will condoms help regulate your periods, for example?
I'm patiently awaiting your "educated" explanation.....


Hours and hours later I'm STILL waiting for your explanation of how condoms supply hormones for medical conditions......hmmmm....doesn't say much for your expertise on the subject, eh?

 

[Foxfyre]

Way back when women were fighting just to get into colleges and universities, fighting to get into classes and courses, if one of us had gotten up and demanded that birth control be the obligation of the university it would have permanently excluded women from even entering these institutions. Women just don't want to be taken seriously. They get so far, then they flop their legs open and it ruins us every time.

Ms. Fluke wants her insurance, for which she pays premiums, to pay for birth control. She didn't ask anything of the school financially. Please watch testimony before you comment on it.

Wouldn't that correctly be "for which everyone pays premiums"?

Perhaps our friend is under the same illusion that fools people into believing that anything the government provides to them is free. It would logically follow that if the insurance company covers prescriptions for contraceptives, that would also be free.

Unfortunately, for those of us who actually pay insurance premiums and taxes, we know that nothing is really free other than what God or the universe itself provides for us.

 

[Si modo]

Ya' know, Dave....we have to give credit where credit is due...

the Obama strategy of spotlighting this fake contraception issue- hundreds of posts on the subject....
...has kept the conversation far away from the flops and failures of the Pretender of Pennsylvania Avenue.


Kudos, Barack!

He learned politics in Chicago. Nothing is ever as it seems.

<hr.

Do, DOCTOR....explain how a condom is going to help a woman that needs hormones for a medical condition. How will condoms help regulate your periods, for example?
I'm patiently awaiting your "educated" explanation.....

Relevance?

 

[Scout]

1. She is ofcourse a slut, using the pill as a single women, would mean she is bumping the fur.

And there you have it -- honesty at last about what the real issue is.

Y'all can sit on it, though. Times have changed. Deal with it.

No, not really they have not, unless you mean since the 40's or something. As a teen rubbers and pills were easy to get just like they are now at low cost or in many cases free. This woman was stupid for doing what she did because she sat before a member of congress and lied. Stupid slut would have been more fitting.

Oh, really? What did she lie about? You seem to like to accuse, but not really tell us anything......I think lying slut is fitting for you.

 

[Scout]

It hasn't been shown that she lied, and in any case that's irrelevant to the discussion and an attempted diversion.

Sexual morality has changed since the 1960s. Most people no longer consider it "slutty" to engage in sex before marriage. That's a reality and there's no reversing it.

No attempt at diversion at all. No one is trying to reverse anything. She can screw who or what she wants when ever she wants. There are two lies in her statement. The lie she and other horny young folks in Georgetown have no access to birth control cheap or free. Planned parenthood accepts most insurance and in most cases gives the stuff away. Birth control was never the issue because inaccessibility to it is a big fat lie. She put her self out there on point to draw fire and give the president a thing to snuggle up to and pander for votes. Thats why the issue of birth control has not been addressed, and why they cling to the stupid cow being called a slut. So maybe times have changed. telling lies to congress on national TV is acceptable now to.

Try reading her testimony next time and perhaps you won't make such a fool of yourself as this statement demonstrates.....

 

[Scout]

There are two lies in her statement. The lie she and other horny young folks in Georgetown have no access to birth control cheap or free.

That's only one lie, not two. Can you show that she said that?

She said a poor, poor woman was turned away in shame at the pharmacy because she could not afford her birth control. She also said (or implied) that birth control was not available to horny young folks there. Watch the video. It is her belief that employers should cover birth control. She says they do not. They do. This is called a lie. Here is some wiki on it.

Sandra Fluke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In her testimony, she argued in favor of requiring private insurance companies to cover contraception. She claimed that over the three years as a law student, birth control would cost an estimated $3,000. She continued that the lack of coverage would force many low income women to go without contraception and that women's free health clinics cannot meet the need. She then discussed the consequence of such policies, including a friend with polycystic ovary syndrome being forced to go without birth control pills, resulting in a cyst developing on her ovaries. According to Fluke, her friend was denied coverage, even with a verified condition from her doctor, and this is not a rare event for women with medical conditions. She then stated that she wanted equal treatment for women's health issues and did not see the issue as being against the Catholic Church.[13]

And one more time, here is the pricing information from planned parenthood.

About Our Fees - Planned Parenthood - Western New York

What if I can’t pay or do not have health insurance?
Planned Parenthood participates in a federal funding program called Title X (10); a program that allows us to supplement birth control, GYN care, and other reproductive health services for women who cannot pay full price for health care services. This program does not pay for abortion care. To qualify, we ask all clients seeking services at Planned Parenthood to present the most recent four week snapshot of your income (such as recent pay stubs or, if you are unemployed, proof of your unemployment benefits or inability to work). This helps our staff determine what amount you can pay under Title X’s discounted fee scale.

Additionally, Planned Parenthood can help you sign-up for other programs that will help pay for your services including Medicaid or the Family Planning Benefit Program (FPBP). Call the health center closest to you and speak to one of our medical staff to see how you can apply.

Cash, credit card, certified check or Medicaid and/or your private insurance are the only ways to pay for abortion care at a Planned Parenthood health center .

And the insurance they accept.

Fees & Payment Options - Planned Parenthood - Nassau County

1199
AETNA-PPO,POS,EPO
AETNA-HMO
AETNA-CHICKERING CLAIMS (SCHOOL INS)
AFFINITY HEALTH PLAN
CIGNA-HMO,PPO,OPEN ACCESS
EMBLEM HEALTH
EMPIRE BCBS - all except Mediblue
EMPIRE NYSHIP
GHI - PPO
HEALTHCARE PARTNERS
HIP- ALL PLANS EXCEPT SMART START
LOCALS/UNIONS-CHECK CARD
MAGNACARE
MEDICAID
MEDICARE
MULTIPLAN
OXFORD - Freedom and Liberty
UNITED HEALTHCARE
UNITED HEALTHCARE/COMMUNITY PLAN

So, in all that, with all those options, neither she, or her imaginary friend could get birth control pills ? Its a lie. All just a huge, big fat lie.

Her ACTUAL testimony can be found online.....really, now.....using WIKI as a source!!?!?! BWAA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 

[Scout]

Just for the record, Viagra is not a contraceptive. It is a Medical Association sanctioned treatment for a medical condition. I doubt very seriously that medications that could also be used as a contraceptive but that are necessary to treat a medical condition would be denied by any private health care insurance company.

Medicare, however, allows or disallows all sorts of medications sometimes with absolutely no rhyme or reason. I sat beside my aunt who, because it was affecting her liver, was not a candidate to continue taking the medication necessary to control her severe osteoporosis. So in a consultation with a doctor, he recommended a very expensive medication that was still somewhat experimental but should be effective and Medicare would pay for it. There was another, far less expensive, and necessary to be injected less often, that was actually more effective, but Medicare would not pay for it. UNLESS she had had her gall bladder out. I asked what the gall bladder has to do with Osteoporosis. He said nothing at all. But there is absolutely no explanation for some of the Medicare rules and it is getting worse all the time.


I do not care what private insurance companies choose to cover or not cover so long as that is clearly explained to the patient. It is obvious that most are doing a far superior job of coverage than is Medicare for most things. But I do not want the federal government telling any insurance company what it must provide, what it cannot cover, or that anybody has to provide whatever insurance for their employees.

I know what Viagra is. For your information and hopefully for your edification polycystic ovary disease is also a medical condition. (You are another who didn't watch the testimony.) So is pulmonary hypertension which is what I have. One of my medications is Adcirca, a horrendously expensive new Viagra type drug. Viagra was originally being researched for the disease I have. But when the company discovered it would give men boners they did an about face. The Adcirca is SO expensive that when I order it, the specialty pharmacy wants to know how many pills I have left in the bottle. And yes, my insurance pays for it. All I have to pay is an $80 copay for three months worth through the specialty pharmacy.

I find it somewhat paradoxical that people think it's OK to help men impregnate women so that the government can support the children rather than expect insurance to provide adequate contraception.

I did watch the testimony. Twice actually. And, yet again, I have no problem with insurance covering any medical treatment to treat ANY medical condition. And even though 99% of contraceptives prescribed or used are not to treat any medical condition, I don't have any problem with insurance including those if that is the choice of the insurance company.

I DO have a problem with the federal government requiring any private business to provide any product and a huge problem with the federal government mandating what insurance any private entity must provide for its employees.

If you give the federal government that kind of power, what guarantee can you give me that the federal government won't abuse that power in ways that none of us will find acceptable? When you give the federal government the power to do any damn thing it wants, how far is it before the day that you have no choices, opportunities, or options left?

The federal gov't requiring insurance to cover women's healthcare needs when claiming to provide prescription coverage is a good thing. I'm glad to see the issue forced on employers that try to discriminate against women.

 

[Scout]

Turns out this woman Fluke was a scamster from the go. She is a 30 year old left wing kook woman's "advocate" that graduated in 2003 from Georgetown.
Fluke was a fluke.
Anita Hill deja vu.

My, my, my........Gadawg's been listening to Rush.....known for fabrications and inaccuracies. Turns out she is a 3rd year Georgetown law student just like she said she is.

 

[Scout]

If she's burning through that much birth control a year, I doubt it's be cause she's not using it.

Are you people friggin retarded?

You're either on the pill, or you're not. You don't increase the dosage for increased sexual activity.

really, I'm just in a mood today to piss off liberals. Just that kind of a day.

I suspect stupidity and inaccuracies are your normal day.....

 

[Scout]

How about you worry about your own dusty rot-crotch and keep your nose out of this woman's business?

Of course, you are the perfect example of the level to which society has fallen...the vulgar is the ideal in the circles in which you perform.

The importance of the subject of the thread is that I don't see Ms. Fluke or you as being the direction in which government should take society....
...I'm certain you don't understand that, do you, Shreddy.

You are SUCH a BORE.

Isn't that the truth.....just blah, blah, blah.....