So I looked up Richard Spencer

[Care4all]

Not sure what you are referring to. Do you want to go over the transcripts AGAIN?

Are you a dupe or a liar?

I leave all the lying for you Trumpsters!

The left and the right in the public and in Congress were FURIOUS at Trump, for his comments and what they implied....

the following day or day after, the Republicans in Congress convinced Trump to clarify what he meant by good people on both sides, so he sorta did.... then a day or two afterwards he reneged on his reneging...

Media frenzy. That's all it was.

if you call the Republicans that spoke out against Trump on it, then sure!

We've been calling out republicans stupid enough to play along with the media's games for a long time now.

Its funny, they are so partisan and stupid, they don't even see that we criticize republicans all the time

2/3's of voters agreed to appointing a Special Counsel at the time Trump fired Comey.... only 21% thought no, they should not appoint one...

It was more than the media, and more than just congress critters....

trying to rewrite history to your ''talking points now'' just ain't gonna pass muster!

Nearly two-thirds of voters, 63 percent, either “strongly” or “somewhat” agree with the Justice Department’s decision to appoint former FBI Director Robert Mueller to oversee the Russia probe, the poll shows. Only 21 percent of voters disagree with the decision to appoint a special counsel.

Poll: Voters back Russia special prosecutor

 

[MarcATL]

Not giving into the left doesnt mean he snuggles with racists. Kinda binary thinking.

What does your brain consider to be "giving in?"

 

[MarcATL]

Because Republicans welcomed these assholes into their party after the Civil Rights Act passed to help them beat the Democrats and win the South.

There are not enough rich, white men in America to win so Republicans had to broaden their appeal to win elections. Reagan forged an alliance with the evangelical Christian movement to oppose abortion, gay marriage but then did little for them once they helped elect him.

They did the same for white supremiacists, but unlike the Christians, who got little for their votes, they got more of what they wanted. Reagan railed against “Welfare Queens”, and cut benefits, raised income requirements on food stamps and tried to have ketchup declared a vegetable in the school lunch program. David Duke had found a home.

The one thing that Donald Trump has done that no other President before him has done, is to keep promises made to evangelical Christians. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was HUGE for them. His anti-gay stance, and his support of charter schools also plays into this.

Every parent I’ve spoken to who has their child in a “Christian” school, has said they did this so their children won’t have to go to school with blacks or other minorities. So there is fine crossover with the racism.

And let’s be honest here. When conservatives talk about the urban/rural cultural divide in the flyover states they’re taking about race.

Republicans have given aid and comfort to racists for more than 50 years now. When you look at Republican gatherings, it’s a sea of white faces.

As for conservatives, they’re an ideology without a party at the moment. Trump is in no way conservative. Since his election He’s increased the size of government adding a whole new branch of the military, and hiring thousands of border patrol. Cancelled all of your trade deals and instituted tariffs.

Yes he cut taxes, but he is had the largest budget deficit in history as a result, and Americans are getting nothing lasting for the money he’s spending. Roosevelt used deficit spending on massive infrastructure projects which Americans can look at today and see how their tax dollars were spent at that time. With Trump, the money went to him, his family, and his rich buddies.

Conservatives favour free trade and don’t want the government picking winners and losers. Trump picked coal over clean energy and is trying to force power companies to build more coal-fired plants. The same with steel and aluminum tariffs. Companies are closing and manufacturing jobs are being lost at a rate of 5 to 1. For every new job created in the steel industry, 5 are lost in manufacturing. Talk about picking up the peanuts while being trampled by the elephants.

Trump is not a conservative but he’s not a liberal either. He’s an authoritarian.

That about sums it up.

Thank you.

 

[Care4all]

I leave all the lying for you Trumpsters!

The left and the right in the public and in Congress were FURIOUS at Trump, for his comments and what they implied....

the following day or day after, the Republicans in Congress convinced Trump to clarify what he meant by good people on both sides, so he sorta did.... then a day or two afterwards he reneged on his reneging...

Media frenzy. That's all it was.

if you call the Republicans that spoke out against Trump on it, then sure!

We've been calling out republicans stupid enough to play along with the media's games for a long time now.

Its funny, they are so partisan and stupid, they don't even see that we criticize republicans all the time

2/3's of voters agreed to appointing a Special Counsel at the time Trump fired Comey.... only 21% thought no, they should not appoint one...

It was more than the media, and more than just congress critters....

trying to rewrite history to your ''talking points now'' just ain't gonna pass muster!

Nearly two-thirds of voters, 63 percent, either “strongly” or “somewhat” agree with the Justice Department’s decision to appoint former FBI Director Robert Mueller to oversee the Russia probe, the poll shows. Only 21 percent of voters disagree with the decision to appoint a special counsel.

Poll: Voters back Russia special prosecutor

This is the polling on Charlottsville last year


By Scott Clement and David Nakamura August 21, 2017 Email the author


Twice as many Americans disapprove than approve of President Trump’s response to the deadly Charlottesville protests led by white supremacists that ignited widespread political backlash against the White House, although a majority of Republicans offer at least tepid support in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Trump’s handling of the racially charged clashes at the Unite the Right rally Aug. 12 erupted into a major flash point in his administration and earned him rebukes from members of Congress, military leaders and major business executives. The president equivocated in denouncing the hate groups and cast blame on “both sides” for the deadly violence, prompting criticism that he was fanning racial tensions.

The Post-ABC survey finds overwhelming majorities across party lines saying it is unacceptable to hold white supremacist views, while 9 percent overall say such views are acceptable.

Poll shows clear disapproval of how Trump responded to Charlottesville violence

 

[Dragonlady]

I never looked him up or cared until I watched DSouza's movie. How is this guy right wing?

Richard B. Spencer - Wikipedia

D’Souza Gets White Supremacist Richard Spencer To Admit Being A Socialist Progressive

Healthcare
Spencer supports legal access to abortion, in part because he believes it would reduce the number of black and Hispanic people, which he says would be a "great boon" to white people.[121] Spencer supports a national single-payer healthcare system because he believes it would benefit white people.[122][123]

Christianity
Spencer is an atheist,[124] but believes the Christian church previously held some pragmatic value, as Spencer believes it helped unify the white population of Europe. He opposes traditional Christian values as a moral code, due to Christianity being a universalizing religion, and not one based on ethnic and racial ancestry. Spencer references his views on Christianity as being influenced by German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche.[125][126][127] Citing Nietzsche's criticism of anti-Semitism and nationalism, Scott Galupo writing for The Week, Sean Illing for Vox, and Jordan Harris for The Courier-Journal have described Spencer's interpretation of Nietzsche's philosophy as incorrect.[128][129][125] Spencer's Radix Journal has promoted paganism, running titles such as "Why I am a pagan".[130] Spencer has also described himself as a "cultural Christian."[131]

Yep. National SOCIALISTS are SOCIALISTS.

So?

That's the point of this thread. Nazis are leftwingers and so is Richard Spencer. He believes nothing republicans and right wingers do.

The German Nazis were not socialists in the same way the Trump is not Republican. Hitler took over the Nationalist Socialist Party and changed everything about them but the name.

Belief in a woman’s right access to abortion is a conservative not liberal. It is a matter of freedom and privacy and none of the states’ business. That’s a conservative position, not a Republican position.

Most Republicans favour abortion rights for women. 53% of Republicans would not ban abortion. So the idea that being pro-choice means he’s a liberal is a lie.

Being an atheist doesn’t make him a liberal either. Religion or lack thereof doesn’t make one a conservative or a liberal. Conservatives continually claim that liberals are atheists. That’s simply a bald faced lie.

12% of atheists are Republicans. Not as many as are Democrats but then nearly 70% of all Americans believe in God. Since only 37% of Americans identify as Republicans, it follows that not all Democrats are atheists.

The things you claim show Richard Spencer is a liberal, in fact are issues that have nothing to do with partisanship.

I know you don’t want to claim this odious piece of shit but he’s all yours.

 

[EverCurious]

This thread right here is evidence of the real threat and damage the present system of gender/racial classification (typically short handed as "PC Culture") has wrought.

We can't have a conversation about /anything/ without it suddenly (often randomly and unexpectedly) being about race anymore...

 

[MarcATL]

It's like I've said on multiple threads on this site, the political spectrum of Left and Right, with the Communists being on the Lest and the Nazis on the right, is a false one.

In fact, if you look at both ends of that false spectrum, what you will find out is that both are obsessed with race and all for large authoritarian government.

Even the Donald.

ESPECIALLY the Donald.

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[MarcATL]

D’Souza Gets White Supremacist Richard Spencer To Admit Being A Socialist Progressive

In the new Dinish D'Souza film, "Death of a Nation", Richard Spencer is interviewed. For those who don't know, Spencer is credited for founding the "alt.right" movement and is a loud and proud white supremacist

However, as D'Souza begins to talk to him in the interview, he sounds more and more like a flaming progressive. All of his favorite Presidents were racist democrat presidents, he does not believe in innate right, rather rights come from the collective state, and he is a socialist.

But the press keeps pounding in everyone's head the notion that the Nazi socialists, along with Spencer, are really right wing Republican conservatives. I assume it is based upon the premise that the GOP loves wars abroad and hates minorities, which is false. I know I am tired of the endless wars like Libya and Iraq, and I don't hate minorities.

But as seen in this interview, the Nazi mentality, along with Spencer, is not conservative at all. In fact, it mirrors Progressive ideology more than anything. Those the promote identity politics and wars abroad and just increasing the size and scope of government at all are the ones who mirror Nazi and white supremacist ideology.

Can the truth really reach society devoid of such media propaganda?

People are beginning to realize.

We can thank Joey Gibson and the Proud Boys for that, and other citizen journalists...including journalists who work for Alex Jones....and this is the real reason they were booted off the internet. Because they show the reality that the left doesn't want you to know...

And the reality is that they are trying to destroy our country, and they are starting with our ability to speak the truth, to freely speak, and to use the internet to share information that they don't want you to know.

The left's fake press isn't covering the news. They are pushing an ideology. That's all they do.

And the reason they do it?

They want the US to go down. The US can't go down if we have the right to speak, because then everybody knows what's going on, and can confront the scumbags and stand against them.

Which is what these free speech rallies in Berkeley and Portland are all about. The people who are standing for free speech are not "white supremacists". Taht isn't to say white supremacists don't stand for free speech..I'm sure they do. But that doesn't mean that "free speech" = Nazism.

The leftist fake press knows this.

The leftist useful idiots don't. And they are the ones who show up to sling bricks and scream.

This garbage comes directly from our schools.

Is it any wonder that Dinish D'Souza was thrown in prison?

The man broke the law. Period. End of story.

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[iceberg]

I leave all the lying for you Trumpsters!

The left and the right in the public and in Congress were FURIOUS at Trump, for his comments and what they implied....

the following day or day after, the Republicans in Congress convinced Trump to clarify what he meant by good people on both sides, so he sorta did.... then a day or two afterwards he reneged on his reneging...

Media frenzy. That's all it was.

if you call the Republicans that spoke out against Trump on it, then sure!

We've been calling out republicans stupid enough to play along with the media's games for a long time now.

Its funny, they are so partisan and stupid, they don't even see that we criticize republicans all the time

2/3's of voters agreed to appointing a Special Counsel at the time Trump fired Comey.... only 21% thought no, they should not appoint one...

It was more than the media, and more than just congress critters....

trying to rewrite history to your ''talking points now'' just ain't gonna pass muster!

Nearly two-thirds of voters, 63 percent, either “strongly” or “somewhat” agree with the Justice Department’s decision to appoint former FBI Director Robert Mueller to oversee the Russia probe, the poll shows. Only 21 percent of voters disagree with the decision to appoint a special counsel.

Poll: Voters back Russia special prosecutor

trying to rewrite history however when the left sees fit, is fine.

 

[Votto]

D’Souza Gets White Supremacist Richard Spencer To Admit Being A Socialist Progressive

In the new Dinish D'Souza film, "Death of a Nation", Richard Spencer is interviewed. For those who don't know, Spencer is credited for founding the "alt.right" movement and is a loud and proud white supremacist

However, as D'Souza begins to talk to him in the interview, he sounds more and more like a flaming progressive. All of his favorite Presidents were racist democrat presidents, he does not believe in innate right, rather rights come from the collective state, and he is a socialist.

But the press keeps pounding in everyone's head the notion that the Nazi socialists, along with Spencer, are really right wing Republican conservatives. I assume it is based upon the premise that the GOP loves wars abroad and hates minorities, which is false. I know I am tired of the endless wars like Libya and Iraq, and I don't hate minorities.

But as seen in this interview, the Nazi mentality, along with Spencer, is not conservative at all. In fact, it mirrors Progressive ideology more than anything. Those the promote identity politics and wars abroad and just increasing the size and scope of government at all are the ones who mirror Nazi and white supremacist ideology.

Can the truth really reach society devoid of such media propaganda?

People are beginning to realize.

We can thank Joey Gibson and the Proud Boys for that, and other citizen journalists...including journalists who work for Alex Jones....and this is the real reason they were booted off the internet. Because they show the reality that the left doesn't want you to know...

And the reality is that they are trying to destroy our country, and they are starting with our ability to speak the truth, to freely speak, and to use the internet to share information that they don't want you to know.

The left's fake press isn't covering the news. They are pushing an ideology. That's all they do.

And the reason they do it?

They want the US to go down. The US can't go down if we have the right to speak, because then everybody knows what's going on, and can confront the scumbags and stand against them.

Which is what these free speech rallies in Berkeley and Portland are all about. The people who are standing for free speech are not "white supremacists". Taht isn't to say white supremacists don't stand for free speech..I'm sure they do. But that doesn't mean that "free speech" = Nazism.

The leftist fake press knows this.

The leftist useful idiots don't. And they are the ones who show up to sling bricks and scream.

This garbage comes directly from our schools.

Is it any wonder that Dinish D'Souza was thrown in prison?

The man broke the law. Period. End of story.

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So did Hillary

 

[Care4all]

Media frenzy. That's all it was.

if you call the Republicans that spoke out against Trump on it, then sure!

We've been calling out republicans stupid enough to play along with the media's games for a long time now.

Its funny, they are so partisan and stupid, they don't even see that we criticize republicans all the time

2/3's of voters agreed to appointing a Special Counsel at the time Trump fired Comey.... only 21% thought no, they should not appoint one...

It was more than the media, and more than just congress critters....

trying to rewrite history to your ''talking points now'' just ain't gonna pass muster!

Nearly two-thirds of voters, 63 percent, either “strongly” or “somewhat” agree with the Justice Department’s decision to appoint former FBI Director Robert Mueller to oversee the Russia probe, the poll shows. Only 21 percent of voters disagree with the decision to appoint a special counsel.

Poll: Voters back Russia special prosecutor

trying to rewrite history however when the left sees fit, is fine.

got an example of me doing it or supporting a lefty who has done it?

 

[iceberg]

if you call the Republicans that spoke out against Trump on it, then sure!

We've been calling out republicans stupid enough to play along with the media's games for a long time now.

Its funny, they are so partisan and stupid, they don't even see that we criticize republicans all the time

2/3's of voters agreed to appointing a Special Counsel at the time Trump fired Comey.... only 21% thought no, they should not appoint one...

It was more than the media, and more than just congress critters....

trying to rewrite history to your ''talking points now'' just ain't gonna pass muster!

Nearly two-thirds of voters, 63 percent, either “strongly” or “somewhat” agree with the Justice Department’s decision to appoint former FBI Director Robert Mueller to oversee the Russia probe, the poll shows. Only 21 percent of voters disagree with the decision to appoint a special counsel.

Poll: Voters back Russia special prosecutor

trying to rewrite history however when the left sees fit, is fine.

got an example of me doing it or supporting a lefty who has done it?

got an example of you telling them to cut it out?

 

[spacetime]

Richard Spencer's #1 policy issue is immigration restrictionism, and that's an exclusively right-wing stance. He may be left-wing on pretty much every other policy issue, but as long as he's known mainly for his views on immigration, I think it's fair for people to see him as right-wing.

 

[MarcATL]

It’s funny watching people tie themselves into knots so they can pretend Spencer is some lefty loon.

Ok, what makes him otherwise?

I know it must be hard for you to make peace with, but racist assholes do exist on the right. Spencer is one of them.

Racist assholes exist on the left too.
The whole race based narrative that our schools are pushing is a racist one.

What narrative is that? State it.

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[hadit]

My point, is why is he characterized as right wing, when he has very few positions that I agree with him on....and for different reasons.

What side is following him? Republicans or Democrats?

Be honest.

Very few "follow" him. Certainly not enough to say "Republicans" or "democrats" follow him. If you actually want honesty, rephrase the question to be accurate.

 

[hadit]

I didn't, I knew the name, had no care about him, until I saw the interview in Death of a Nation. you lefties are obsessed with this guy. I've seen more threads started on this guy from the left than from the right.

Let me help you. It's Replublicans. Republicans are who follow him and ascribe to his views...not Democrats.

I thought you wanted honesty, then you go and say that?

 

[Correll]

Not sure what you are referring to. Do you want to go over the transcripts AGAIN?

Are you a dupe or a liar?

I leave all the lying for you Trumpsters!

The left and the right in the public and in Congress were FURIOUS at Trump, for his comments and what they implied....

the following day or day after, the Republicans in Congress convinced Trump to clarify what he meant by good people on both sides, so he sorta did.... then a day or two afterwards he reneged on his reneging...

Media frenzy. That's all it was.

if you call the Republicans that spoke out against Trump on it, then sure!

We've been calling out republicans stupid enough to play along with the media's games for a long time now.

Its funny, they are so partisan and stupid, they don't even see that we criticize republicans all the time

So, partisan, that they literally can't see or hear what does not fit their narrative.


They are almost literally "blind" in that they often don't "see" what they don't want to see.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I never looked him up or cared until I watched DSouza's movie. How is this guy right wing?

Richard B. Spencer - Wikipedia

D’Souza Gets White Supremacist Richard Spencer To Admit Being A Socialist Progressive

Healthcare
Spencer supports legal access to abortion, in part because he believes it would reduce the number of black and Hispanic people, which he says would be a "great boon" to white people.[121] Spencer supports a national single-payer healthcare system because he believes it would benefit white people.[122][123]

Christianity
Spencer is an atheist,[124] but believes the Christian church previously held some pragmatic value, as Spencer believes it helped unify the white population of Europe. He opposes traditional Christian values as a moral code, due to Christianity being a universalizing religion, and not one based on ethnic and racial ancestry. Spencer references his views on Christianity as being influenced by German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche.[125][126][127] Citing Nietzsche's criticism of anti-Semitism and nationalism, Scott Galupo writing for The Week, Sean Illing for Vox, and Jordan Harris for The Courier-Journal have described Spencer's interpretation of Nietzsche's philosophy as incorrect.[128][129][125] Spencer's Radix Journal has promoted paganism, running titles such as "Why I am a pagan".[130] Spencer has also described himself as a "cultural Christian."[131]

Yep. National SOCIALISTS are SOCIALISTS.

So?

That's the point of this thread. Nazis are leftwingers and so is Richard Spencer. He believes nothing republicans and right wingers do.

The German Nazis were not socialists in the same way the Trump is not Republican. Hitler took over the Nationalist Socialist Party and changed everything about them but the name.

Belief in a woman’s right access to abortion is a conservative not liberal. It is a matter of freedom and privacy and none of the states’ business. That’s a conservative position, not a Republican position.

Most Republicans favour abortion rights for women. 53% of Republicans would not ban abortion. So the idea that being pro-choice means he’s a liberal is a lie.

Being an atheist doesn’t make him a liberal either. Religion or lack thereof doesn’t make one a conservative or a liberal. Conservatives continually claim that liberals are atheists. That’s simply a bald faced lie.

12% of atheists are Republicans. Not as many as are Democrats but then nearly 70% of all Americans believe in God. Since only 37% of Americans identify as Republicans, it follows that not all Democrats are atheists.

The things you claim show Richard Spencer is a liberal, in fact are issues that have nothing to do with partisanship.

I know you don’t want to claim this odious piece of shit but he’s all yours.

you just contradicted yourself.
Republicans are a party not an ideology. NAZIs are a party, fascism is the ideology. Fascism is leftwing...that's the point.
They were for state control of just about everything
Yes they allowed capitalism, but it was a farce....fascism is state controlled capitalism....ie STATE CONTROL
They also believed in Eugenics, like most lefties.....look it up....it's racist as fuck
There are very few things they agree with the right wing on.
On abortion, the NAZIs were very pro abortion. as well as euthanasia and killed people who were not "normal", which is a common tennet of the left (ie The left HATED the fact that Sara Palin didn't abort her son with downs syndrome)

As for the atheists, the left has the militant kind.....republicans even if atheists don't care about school prayer or Christian symbols in places.......democrat ones do....they are very militant about it...and please let me see the study showing those percentages.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I didn't, I knew the name, had no care about him, until I saw the interview in Death of a Nation. you lefties are obsessed with this guy. I've seen more threads started on this guy from the left than from the right.

Let me help you. It's Replublicans. Republicans are who follow him and ascribe to his views...not Democrats.

What? I don't know of any republicans that follow him. And again all of his policies are leftwing......sorry but he's a leftwinger. I can say I'm left wing, but with my ideas people will see through that charade pretty quick.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Richard Spencer's #1 policy issue is immigration restrictionism, and that's an exclusively right-wing stance. He may be left-wing on pretty much every other policy issue, but as long as he's known mainly for his views on immigration, I think it's fair for people to see him as right-wing.

no, that's complete shit. One issue doesn't determine your ideology. This is how you guys cast of the racists and toss them into our side, we reject that. the left is the side that is absolutely obsessed about race. Us right wingers are about specific policies that help the most people (the left always brings up niche policies and tries to tag racism for not supporting their bullshit)