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This will end like the IRS, Benghazi, and Syria...
...the rightwing nuts will end up looking like fools, and yet not one of them will be an IQ point wiser for the experience.
There is no compromise, Democrats hate the working class and the poor, that is why they want to force Obamacare on the working class, while exempting the business owners and the unions for another year.
The GOP refuses to offer any amendments to ObamaCare.
They simply want to kill it.
So if Obama says he's willing to work with both parties:
The Right would attack him for interfering!
The House passed two bills with a "Poison Pill" in each. Or did you miss that part?As the president correctly stated this afternoon, House republicans doing their job, keeping the peoples government open, is not a concession to him.
They did do their job. They passed two bills that would keep the government functioning. Or did you miss that part?
They are asking for it's implementation to be delayed for one year. Big business and unions have been exempted for a year, why not let the American people enjoy the same deal? Why do the democrats want to burden the public down with added money going out of their pocket?
WOW! The grammar school playground "I know you are but what am I" come back........Grow up, child....So if Obama says he's willing to work with both parties:
The Right would attack him for interfering!
actually that was the left when they were crafting the Immigration Bill.......try again....
The House passed two bills with a "Poison Pill" in each. Or did you miss that part?As the president correctly stated this afternoon, House republicans doing their job, keeping the peoples government open, is not a concession to him.
They did do their job. They passed two bills that would keep the government functioning. Or did you miss that part?
WOW! The grammar school playground "I know you are but what am I" come back........Grow up, child....So if Obama says he's willing to work with both parties:
The Right would attack him for interfering!
actually that was the left when they were crafting the Immigration Bill.......try again....
So basically what you're saying here is that they asked for too much? In negotiating terms, "controversial" means something that one party really doesn't wanna give. Essentially, asking for too much.
I'm not sure if you've ever negotiated for anything before, but that's pretty much a standard negotiation. One side establishes that they want A, the other side establishes that they want Z. One side then tells the other side what they're willing to concede for what they expect the other side to concede. If the other side doesn't like the offer, it doesn't mean that the offer was tantamount to not negotiating in good faith. It means its their turn to make a counter-offer.
In this case, the Democrats counter-offer was, "Fuck you! Give us what we want!"
How is it that it's okay for the Democrats to stone wall the issue, but if the Republicans pass a budget asking for too much, that shows a lack of good faith?
No, I think it's simpler than that for you. I'm pretty sure that the reason you believe the Republicans aren't acting in good faith is because you want what the Democrats want. Doesn't matter who's doing what, the side with which you disagree is the side at fault.
I agree with much of what you are saying, but we may be talking about two different things. Certainly you are correct about open and ongoing negotiations. I was discussing what was going on today, hours from reaching a point of no return so to speak. The House is giving solutions that they should surely know are poison.
And what solutions, aside from ,"Fuck you! Give us what we want!", are the Democrats suggesting?
. . . any. . . ? I'll wait. . . .
The House passed two bills with a "Poison Pill" in each. Or did you miss that part?
The House not only won't pass the Senate bill, they won't even vote on it.
GOP scum.
You don't want "rational" Republicans, you want liberal Republicans like George W. Bush and John Boehner. You liberals are throwing temper-tantrums because you're used to having your way thanks to marxist Dumbocrats and liberal Republicans.
You're party has gotten more and more radical and now rational seems "radical" to you because of it. All the Tea Party has done is obey the highest law in the land (Constitution). How sad that you consider obeying the law to be "irrational" and "radical".
Barack Obama and the Dumbocrats have spent us into collapse. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
You don't know shit about negociating. You wish you had some asshole telling you they were willing to sacrifice to make a deal. You wish you had some asshole who would speak softly. My way is the best way. Fuck the soft voice. Talk nice time over. You threaten and you get to meet the big stick. Threaten to do harm to the people under my protection and you get what Obama is giving to the assholes threatening his people. Nice talk is over. Shut up and do what you are told or fuck off. Want to fight over it. OK, lets do it. No rules.
You don't even know how to spell the word, much less practice it. "My way is the best way" or is it, "My way or the highway?" Thank you for proving my point. "Fuck the soft voice"?
I will not do what I am told. I live in a free country where I am free to dissent or disagree, you will not dictate to me, you rank amateur!
I dare you to threaten me again. I'll melt you into that chair of yours, hotshot.
Oh my! He breathes fire! My hero!
In such instances on budgetary matters where both chambers can't agree, doesn't it go to a special committee to hammer out compromise? Haven't the Senate Democrats offered to have these very matters sent to a compromise committee since March? Why try and hold the country hostage to a continuing funding resolution.
Uh no. Harry doesn't allow a vote and refuses to meet and compromise.
Nope. The Senate passed a budget in March and the GOP have blocked forming a compromise committee about 17 times.
Obama wants single payer. That is a non-starter with GOP and red state Dems.
Obama compromises and suggests Obamacare with public option.
No......GOP and red state Dems say no.
Obama compromises and drops public option.
Law passes.
But Obama does not compromise.
Funny retards.
You can attack Obama from now till doomsday but the majority of American people will still lay the responsibility for the government shutdown on the party that has been bitching about government for the last 40 years.
The American people watched Congress in action over the last four years...they know who the obstructionists are.
Your Tea Bagger wing has taken control of your GOP, citizens.
the GOP's (false) hatred for government has come back to bite it in the ass.
SOME of the government hating morons you attracted to your party are now in the drivers' seats in Congress.
This will end like the IRS, Benghazi, and Syria...
...the rightwing nuts will end up looking like fools, and yet not one of them will be an IQ point wiser for the experience.
You can attack Obama from now till doomsday but the majority of American people will still lay the responsibility for the government shutdown on the party that has been bitching about government for the last 40 years.
The American people watched Congress in action over the last four years...they know who the obstructionists are.
Your Tea Bagger wing has taken control of your GOP, citizens.
the GOP's (false) hatred for government has come back to bite it in the ass.
SOME of the government hating morons you attracted to your party are now in the drivers' seats in Congress.
