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So now with the EVIL Corporation Insurance Companies losing their supplemental billions from the gov

Is it time to stop the corporate welfare to insurance companies?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 18 90.0%
  • No.

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Total voters
    20
Who insisted? Since when was there a discussion with Obamacare? The couple thousand page bill was made behind close doors, then rushed for a vote before anyone had time to read it. There was no discussion. And no one gives a rats ass about the insurance companies. There's no "let's keep the insurance companies around for their sake." That's ridiculous. Those against the ACA have been wanting for decades to free up the healthcare market, and instead there's been regulation after regulation passed. And then the ACA is presented, like it was 100% necessary or all the poor would die, without anyone hearing us out.

Yeah, the problem with "Freeing up the insuarnce market" usually means, 'Let's let the Insurance industry take people's money, and then screw them if they get anything more serious than a cold."

Look, buddy, the left wanted a public option. Instead, they went along with what was essentially national Romney-Care. And the GOP was all for RomneyCare, until the Black Guy Did It.

Check out the 2008 election. Nobody gave Romney any shit about RomneyCare. He got more shit for being a Mormon. By 2012, the Evangelicals didn't care about Mormonism anymore and Romney wouldn't be caught having a drink with his own program.

It's not like free market healthcare systems do not work, like the left looooves to claim.

Hey, buddy, you try to fight with an insurance company some time to get a treatment that your doctor says you need to have, and they don't want to pay for. Then tell me how the "Free Market" works.

The Swiss have a very free and competitive privatized market, that not only provides very high quality AND TIMELY care, it's also quite affordable.

The entire Swiss economy is based on moving other people's money around... and they have universal health care.
Who insisted? Since when was there a discussion with Obamacare? The couple thousand page bill was made behind close doors, then rushed for a vote before anyone had time to read it. There was no discussion. And no one gives a rats ass about the insurance companies. There's no "let's keep the insurance companies around for their sake." That's ridiculous. Those against the ACA have been wanting for decades to free up the healthcare market, and instead there's been regulation after regulation passed. And then the ACA is presented, like it was 100% necessary or all the poor would die, without anyone hearing us out.

Yeah, the problem with "Freeing up the insuarnce market" usually means, 'Let's let the Insurance industry take people's money, and then screw them if they get anything more serious than a cold."

Look, buddy, the left wanted a public option. Instead, they went along with what was essentially national Romney-Care. And the GOP was all for RomneyCare, until the Black Guy Did It.

Check out the 2008 election. Nobody gave Romney any shit about RomneyCare. He got more shit for being a Mormon. By 2012, the Evangelicals didn't care about Mormonism anymore and Romney wouldn't be caught having a drink with his own program.

It's not like free market healthcare systems do not work, like the left looooves to claim.

Hey, buddy, you try to fight with an insurance company some time to get a treatment that your doctor says you need to have, and they don't want to pay for. Then tell me how the "Free Market" works.

The Swiss have a very free and competitive privatized market, that not only provides very high quality AND TIMELY care, it's also quite affordable.

The entire Swiss economy is based on moving other people's money around... and they have universal health care.
What does what YOU think about Swiss economy (surprise, only a small portion of them are bankers and financiers) have anything to do with the conversation? And there’s a big difference between universal healthcare and single payer. Yes it’s universal (like if you own and drive a car in the US, you need car insurance), but it’s a much freer, affordable, customizable, and competitive market...that works extremely well for them. Longer life expectancy, very happy and healthy people, that aren’t looking at a social system that’s on the verge of collapsing.

And not many liked Romney, nor his Romney care Mass. policy. Many on the right position was that more regulation is bad, making the ACA VERY BAD. And the left KNEW that they’d never get enough votes to go to single payer despite have a majority in house and senate (as admitted by the author of ACA)...which is why they went with the ACA, as a stepping stone that was never meant to be sustainable. In hopes of coming in with single payer later.
 
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What does what YOU think about Swiss economy (surprise, only a small portion of them are bankers and financiers) have anything to do with the conversation? And there’s a big difference between universal healthcare and single payer. Yes it’s universal (like if you own and drive a car in the US, you need car insurance), but it’s a much freer, affordable, customizable, and competitive market...that works extremely well for them. Longer life expectancy, very happy and healthy people, that aren’t looking at a social system that’s on the verge of collapsing.

Well, yeah, when you are taking a skim from handling the rest of the world's money and dividing it among a mere 8 million people, you can pretty much run a good system.

Healthcare in Switzerland - Wikipedia

Healthcare in Switzerland is universal[3] and is regulated by the Swiss Federal Law on Health Insurance. There are no free state-provided health services, but private health insurance is compulsory for all persons residing in Switzerland (within three months of taking up residence or being born in the country)

Wow. That actually SOUNDS like ObamaCare!
 
What does what YOU think about Swiss economy (surprise, only a small portion of them are bankers and financiers) have anything to do with the conversation? And there’s a big difference between universal healthcare and single payer. Yes it’s universal (like if you own and drive a car in the US, you need car insurance), but it’s a much freer, affordable, customizable, and competitive market...that works extremely well for them. Longer life expectancy, very happy and healthy people, that aren’t looking at a social system that’s on the verge of collapsing.

Well, yeah, when you are taking a skim from handling the rest of the world's money and dividing it among a mere 8 million people, you can pretty much run a good system.

Healthcare in Switzerland - Wikipedia

Healthcare in Switzerland is universal[3] and is regulated by the Swiss Federal Law on Health Insurance. There are no free state-provided health services, but private health insurance is compulsory for all persons residing in Switzerland (within three months of taking up residence or being born in the country)

Wow. That actually SOUNDS like ObamaCare!
Not at all, sure there are some regulations...no where near as much as our system pre-ACA, and especially post ACA. I’m pretty sure the wiki you’re citing even states that they have a much freer system than our own. And no they don’t divy up the money...since they aren’t a socialist country. And why do business all around the world use banking from their home country? Your making it sound like the Swiss are just cherry picking off the entire world, when if someone does use Swiss banking...it’s because they barely skim at all, in a very free market, in a neutral country.
 
Not at all, sure there are some regulations...no where near as much as our system pre-ACA, and especially post ACA. I’m pretty sure the wiki you’re citing even states that they have a much freer system than our own. And no they don’t divy up the money...since they aren’t a socialist country. And why do business all around the world use banking from their home country? Your making it sound like the Swiss are just cherry picking off the entire world, when if someone does use Swiss banking...it’s because they barely skim at all, in a very free market, in a neutral country.

Actually, what Switzerland does is take money for doing the banking for very sleazy people....

You know, like when they processed the gold teeth stolen from Holocaust victims in WWII.

The thing is, Switzerland is a small country with only 8 million people. Of course, they can have a simpler system than we have.
 
Not at all, sure there are some regulations...no where near as much as our system pre-ACA, and especially post ACA. I’m pretty sure the wiki you’re citing even states that they have a much freer system than our own. And no they don’t divy up the money...since they aren’t a socialist country. And why do business all around the world use banking from their home country? Your making it sound like the Swiss are just cherry picking off the entire world, when if someone does use Swiss banking...it’s because they barely skim at all, in a very free market, in a neutral country.

Actually, what Switzerland does is take money for doing the banking for very sleazy people....

You know, like when they processed the gold teeth stolen from Holocaust victims in WWII.

The thing is, Switzerland is a small country with only 8 million people. Of course, they can have a simpler system than we have.
...and what does the size of a country have to do with a free market system not working?
 
Who insisted? Since when was there a discussion with Obamacare? The couple thousand page bill was made behind close doors, then rushed for a vote before anyone had time to read it. There was no discussion. And no one gives a rats ass about the insurance companies. There's no "let's keep the insurance companies around for their sake." That's ridiculous. Those against the ACA have been wanting for decades to free up the healthcare market, and instead there's been regulation after regulation passed. And then the ACA is presented, like it was 100% necessary or all the poor would die, without anyone hearing us out.

Yeah, the problem with "Freeing up the insuarnce market" usually means, 'Let's let the Insurance industry take people's money, and then screw them if they get anything more serious than a cold."

Look, buddy, the left wanted a public option. Instead, they went along with what was essentially national Romney-Care. And the GOP was all for RomneyCare, until the Black Guy Did It.

Check out the 2008 election. Nobody gave Romney any shit about RomneyCare. He got more shit for being a Mormon. By 2012, the Evangelicals didn't care about Mormonism anymore and Romney wouldn't be caught having a drink with his own program.

It's not like free market healthcare systems do not work, like the left looooves to claim.

Hey, buddy, you try to fight with an insurance company some time to get a treatment that your doctor says you need to have, and they don't want to pay for. Then tell me how the "Free Market" works.

The Swiss have a very free and competitive privatized market, that not only provides very high quality AND TIMELY care, it's also quite affordable.

The entire Swiss economy is based on moving other people's money around... and they have universal health care.
Who insisted? Since when was there a discussion with Obamacare? The couple thousand page bill was made behind close doors, then rushed for a vote before anyone had time to read it. There was no discussion. And no one gives a rats ass about the insurance companies. There's no "let's keep the insurance companies around for their sake." That's ridiculous. Those against the ACA have been wanting for decades to free up the healthcare market, and instead there's been regulation after regulation passed. And then the ACA is presented, like it was 100% necessary or all the poor would die, without anyone hearing us out.

Yeah, the problem with "Freeing up the insuarnce market" usually means, 'Let's let the Insurance industry take people's money, and then screw them if they get anything more serious than a cold."

Look, buddy, the left wanted a public option. Instead, they went along with what was essentially national Romney-Care. And the GOP was all for RomneyCare, until the Black Guy Did It.

Check out the 2008 election. Nobody gave Romney any shit about RomneyCare. He got more shit for being a Mormon. By 2012, the Evangelicals didn't care about Mormonism anymore and Romney wouldn't be caught having a drink with his own program.

It's not like free market healthcare systems do not work, like the left looooves to claim.

Hey, buddy, you try to fight with an insurance company some time to get a treatment that your doctor says you need to have, and they don't want to pay for. Then tell me how the "Free Market" works.

The Swiss have a very free and competitive privatized market, that not only provides very high quality AND TIMELY care, it's also quite affordable.

The entire Swiss economy is based on moving other people's money around... and they have universal health care.
What does what YOU think about Swiss economy (surprise, only a small portion of them are bankers and financiers) have anything to do with the conversation? And there’s a big difference between universal healthcare and single payer. Yes it’s universal (like if you own and drive a car in the US, you need car insurance), but it’s a much freer, affordable, customizable, and competitive market...that works extremely well for them. Longer life expectancy, very happy and healthy people, that aren’t looking at a social system that’s on the verge of collapsing.

And not many liked Romney, nor his Romney care Mass. policy. Many on the right position was that more regulation is bad, making the ACA VERY BAD. And the left KNEW that they’d never get enough votes to go to single payer despite have a majority in house and senate (as admitted by the author of ACA)...which is why they went with the ACA, as a stepping stone that was never meant to be sustainable. In hopes of coming in with single payer later.
They're not paying for the R&D of their drugs we, Americans, are.
 
Who insisted? Since when was there a discussion with Obamacare? The couple thousand page bill was made behind close doors, then rushed for a vote before anyone had time to read it. There was no discussion. And no one gives a rats ass about the insurance companies. There's no "let's keep the insurance companies around for their sake." That's ridiculous. Those against the ACA have been wanting for decades to free up the healthcare market, and instead there's been regulation after regulation passed. And then the ACA is presented, like it was 100% necessary or all the poor would die, without anyone hearing us out.

Yeah, the problem with "Freeing up the insuarnce market" usually means, 'Let's let the Insurance industry take people's money, and then screw them if they get anything more serious than a cold."

Look, buddy, the left wanted a public option. Instead, they went along with what was essentially national Romney-Care. And the GOP was all for RomneyCare, until the Black Guy Did It.

Check out the 2008 election. Nobody gave Romney any shit about RomneyCare. He got more shit for being a Mormon. By 2012, the Evangelicals didn't care about Mormonism anymore and Romney wouldn't be caught having a drink with his own program.

It's not like free market healthcare systems do not work, like the left looooves to claim.

Hey, buddy, you try to fight with an insurance company some time to get a treatment that your doctor says you need to have, and they don't want to pay for. Then tell me how the "Free Market" works.

The Swiss have a very free and competitive privatized market, that not only provides very high quality AND TIMELY care, it's also quite affordable.

The entire Swiss economy is based on moving other people's money around... and they have universal health care.
Who insisted? Since when was there a discussion with Obamacare? The couple thousand page bill was made behind close doors, then rushed for a vote before anyone had time to read it. There was no discussion. And no one gives a rats ass about the insurance companies. There's no "let's keep the insurance companies around for their sake." That's ridiculous. Those against the ACA have been wanting for decades to free up the healthcare market, and instead there's been regulation after regulation passed. And then the ACA is presented, like it was 100% necessary or all the poor would die, without anyone hearing us out.

Yeah, the problem with "Freeing up the insuarnce market" usually means, 'Let's let the Insurance industry take people's money, and then screw them if they get anything more serious than a cold."

Look, buddy, the left wanted a public option. Instead, they went along with what was essentially national Romney-Care. And the GOP was all for RomneyCare, until the Black Guy Did It.

Check out the 2008 election. Nobody gave Romney any shit about RomneyCare. He got more shit for being a Mormon. By 2012, the Evangelicals didn't care about Mormonism anymore and Romney wouldn't be caught having a drink with his own program.

It's not like free market healthcare systems do not work, like the left looooves to claim.

Hey, buddy, you try to fight with an insurance company some time to get a treatment that your doctor says you need to have, and they don't want to pay for. Then tell me how the "Free Market" works.

The Swiss have a very free and competitive privatized market, that not only provides very high quality AND TIMELY care, it's also quite affordable.

The entire Swiss economy is based on moving other people's money around... and they have universal health care.
What does what YOU think about Swiss economy (surprise, only a small portion of them are bankers and financiers) have anything to do with the conversation? And there’s a big difference between universal healthcare and single payer. Yes it’s universal (like if you own and drive a car in the US, you need car insurance), but it’s a much freer, affordable, customizable, and competitive market...that works extremely well for them. Longer life expectancy, very happy and healthy people, that aren’t looking at a social system that’s on the verge of collapsing.

And not many liked Romney, nor his Romney care Mass. policy. Many on the right position was that more regulation is bad, making the ACA VERY BAD. And the left KNEW that they’d never get enough votes to go to single payer despite have a majority in house and senate (as admitted by the author of ACA)...which is why they went with the ACA, as a stepping stone that was never meant to be sustainable. In hopes of coming in with single payer later.
They're not paying for the R&D of their drugs we, Americans, are.
They have a private system...they are. Granted we pay for a lot more R and D, which is very expensive, and it needs to be remembered that no ones going to spend millions of dollars to make a drug they aren’t going make money off of.
 
They have a private system...they are. Granted we pay for a lot more R and D, which is very expensive, and it needs to be remembered that no ones going to spend millions of dollars to make a drug they aren’t going make money off of.

Yes, they spend a lot of money on pills for middle class ailments like erectile dysfunction and depression, but not so much on treating real diseases...
 
They have a private system...they are. Granted we pay for a lot more R and D, which is very expensive, and it needs to be remembered that no ones going to spend millions of dollars to make a drug they aren’t going make money off of.

Yes, they spend a lot of money on pills for middle class ailments like erectile dysfunction and depression, but not so much on treating real diseases...
Someone’s got blinders on.
 
Hey liberals, the justice department is taking its appeal to have billions of money to give to the insurance companies and stop the monthly payments, are you now happy that these EVIL corps are no longer getting that corporate welfare?

Dems rip Trump's 'spiteful' decision to end key ObamaCare payments
"Based on guidance from the Department of Justice, the Department of Health and Human Services has concluded that there is no appropriation for cost-sharing reduction payments to insurance companies under Obamacare," White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.
Did you know that insurance companies were giving large donations to the Democrats so then the Democrats would steal your money and give it to the insurance companies? Yes, you stupid liberal voters made it happen.

Obamacare: Voters, are you stupid? - CNN.com
Obamacare: Democrat Voters, are you stupid?
YES YOU ARE!!!!!!
Your ignorance is astounding!

What Trump has cut, is the cost sharing reduction for the POOREST in this Nation, on the exchange....

The poorest! While leaving the subsidies for those making TRIPLE the amount of income than those on the Cost sharing reduction plans.

He is the AntiChrist.....there is no greater evil walking earth.....he's the Destroyer in Revelations, the Little Horn in the Book of Daniel...no doubt.:eek:


What Trump has done (and let's be clear, this is all Rand Paul whispering in his ear, Trump doesn't have a clue what he's doing) is to stick a fork in the quid-pro-quo cooked up by Congress and the insurance lobby. If we want to help poor people with government money we should give it to them directly and avoid funneling it through corporate interests for "processing".
 
Hey liberals, the justice department is taking its appeal to have billions of money to give to the insurance companies and stop the monthly payments, are you now happy that these EVIL corps are no longer getting that corporate welfare?

Dems rip Trump's 'spiteful' decision to end key ObamaCare payments
"Based on guidance from the Department of Justice, the Department of Health and Human Services has concluded that there is no appropriation for cost-sharing reduction payments to insurance companies under Obamacare," White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.
Did you know that insurance companies were giving large donations to the Democrats so then the Democrats would steal your money and give it to the insurance companies? Yes, you stupid liberal voters made it happen.

Obamacare: Voters, are you stupid? - CNN.com
Obamacare: Democrat Voters, are you stupid?
YES YOU ARE!!!!!!
Your ignorance is astounding!

What Trump has cut, is the cost sharing reduction for the POOREST in this Nation, on the exchange....

The poorest! While leaving the subsidies for those making TRIPLE the amount of income than those on the Cost sharing reduction plans.

He is the AntiChrist.....there is no greater evil walking earth.....he's the Destroyer in Revelations, the Little Horn in the Book of Daniel...no doubt.:eek:


What Trump has done (and let's be clear, this is all Rand Paul whispering in his ear, Trump doesn't have a clue what he's doing) is to stick a fork in the quid-pro-quo cooked up by Congress and the insurance lobby. If we want to help poor people with government money we should give it to them directly and avoid funneling it through corporate interests for "processing".
It seems like that would be the right way to go,

but how could they make that work?

these people can not buy the insurance and then be reimbursed, because they do not have the money to buy it upfront...even if being reimbursed...

if the gvt gives them the money before they buy the insurance, what's to make certain they buy the insurance with it? You would think they would but..... :dunno:

the insurance companies, in the law, are required to offer these cost sharing reduction plans for those who make only 250% of poverty and below....and I just read somewhere that 50% of the people eligible for the premium subsidy assistance, are also eligible for these CSR plans that also help bring deductibles down from $5000 in the normal plan, to say $800 with the cost sharing reduction plan, and emergency room fees from like $500 down to $250 and doctor's visits for like $10 instead of $35 a visit and all kinds of stuff like that.....from what I understand?

And with that requirement for the Insurance companies to offer to the poorest on the exchange these lower deductible and cost plans, it would make all of the other people, 50% receiving premium subsidies on the exchange, pay more for their policy premiums to cover the cost sharing reductions for the poorest 50% on health care subsidies....

BUT that would not come out of their own pockets......because subsidies are based on a percentage of the citizen's income that they can afford to pay in premiums (something like 9% or 10% of their income?), and the govt picks up the rest of the bill..... so if they had to pay $150 a month, when premiums were $300 a month, the gvt would pick up the other $150,

BUTTTTTTTTTT, if the premiums went up to $400 a month, these people would still only owe the $150 for their premiums each month, and the govt would have to pick up the other $250 a month to bring it to the new, $400 a month price.

So basically, the government is not saving a dime, by reneging on the extra cost sharing reduction subsidies to the insurance companies to help pay for the CSR plans they are required to offer, becaquse now all people on the exchange will have to have higher premiums to cover the cost to the insurance companies for the CSR plans....

it saves the govt nothing, and makes no sense, especially with the way the program is set up....imo.
 
/----/ "Your misogyny " Becuase I don't like Hildabeast's politics and ethics. That doesn't make me a misognyst. I support the following women 100%:

YOu mean the ones who know their place?

Not impressed.
/——/ So any woman who doesn’t tow the FemiNazi agenda “knows her place.” I thought the whole feminist movement was meant to empower women to express their own beliefs. BTW I have no desire or need to impress the likes of you.
 
Hey liberals, the justice department is taking its appeal to have billions of money to give to the insurance companies and stop the monthly payments, are you now happy that these EVIL corps are no longer getting that corporate welfare?

Dems rip Trump's 'spiteful' decision to end key ObamaCare payments
"Based on guidance from the Department of Justice, the Department of Health and Human Services has concluded that there is no appropriation for cost-sharing reduction payments to insurance companies under Obamacare," White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.
Did you know that insurance companies were giving large donations to the Democrats so then the Democrats would steal your money and give it to the insurance companies? Yes, you stupid liberal voters made it happen.

Obamacare: Voters, are you stupid? - CNN.com
Obamacare: Democrat Voters, are you stupid?
YES YOU ARE!!!!!!
Your ignorance is astounding!

What Trump has cut, is the cost sharing reduction for the POOREST in this Nation, on the exchange....

The poorest! While leaving the subsidies for those making TRIPLE the amount of income than those on the Cost sharing reduction plans.

He is the AntiChrist.....there is no greater evil walking earth.....he's the Destroyer in Revelations, the Little Horn in the Book of Daniel...no doubt.:eek:


What Trump has done (and let's be clear, this is all Rand Paul whispering in his ear, Trump doesn't have a clue what he's doing) is to stick a fork in the quid-pro-quo cooked up by Congress and the insurance lobby. If we want to help poor people with government money we should give it to them directly and avoid funneling it through corporate interests for "processing".
I don't want to give poor people any more money... They have taken 22 trillion dollars and did nothing but stay poor. Before FDR put a chicken in everyone's pot, people had to work, or find charity to survive. Now we see 1 party taking from those that work, and giving it to those that don't work, thus keeping those who don't work, not working. Give them an incentive, by giving them nothing, but the education from public schools and see how well they survive... Public education is supposed to be all great, right liberals....
 
What Trump has done (and let's be clear, this is all Rand Paul whispering in his ear, Trump doesn't have a clue what he's doing) is to stick a fork in the quid-pro-quo cooked up by Congress and the insurance lobby. If we want to help poor people with government money we should give it to them directly and avoid funneling it through corporate interests for "processing".
It seems like that would be the right way to go,

but how could they make that work?

these people can not buy the insurance and then be reimbursed, because they do not have the money to buy it upfront...even if being reimbursed...

if the gvt gives them the money before they buy the insurance, what's to make certain they buy the insurance with it? You would think they would but..... :dunno:

... they might figure out a better way to pay for their health care than insurance. I have no interest in telling them what they can do with the money. I'd only support such a program with no strings attached.
 
What Trump has done (and let's be clear, this is all Rand Paul whispering in his ear, Trump doesn't have a clue what he's doing) is to stick a fork in the quid-pro-quo cooked up by Congress and the insurance lobby. If we want to help poor people with government money we should give it to them directly and avoid funneling it through corporate interests for "processing".
It seems like that would be the right way to go,

but how could they make that work?

these people can not buy the insurance and then be reimbursed, because they do not have the money to buy it upfront...even if being reimbursed...

if the gvt gives them the money before they buy the insurance, what's to make certain they buy the insurance with it? You would think they would but..... :dunno:

... they might figure out a better way to pay for their health care than insurance. I have no interest in telling them what they can do with the money. I'd only support such a program with no strings attached.
i'm just saying, the way it is set up, the insurance company is going to get their money, one way or the other so Rand Paul whispering to Trump to do this is just a guise.... the gvt saves nothing and other people, citizens who do not get the premium subsidies on the exchange, get hurt.....
 
I don't want to give poor people any more money... They have taken 22 trillion dollars and did nothing but stay poor. Before FDR put a chicken in everyone's pot, people had to work, or find charity to survive.

A chicken in every pot was a Republican expression. It was used by Herbert Hoover's supporters.

Chicken in Every Pot - Dictionary definition of Chicken in Every Pot | Encyclopedia.com: FREE online dictionary

Now we see 1 party taking from those that work, and giving it to those that don't work, thus keeping those who don't work, not working.

Again, who is taking from whom again? As I've pointed out to you, most folks on Food stamps work. The rest are children and the elderly. Meanwhile, the One Percent who have 43% of the wealth don't do 43% of the work. Nowhere near.

Give them an incentive, by giving them nothing, but the education from public schools and see how well they survive... Public education is supposed to be all great, right liberals....

No problem. Just make sure the rich kids have to go to the same crappy schools the poor kids have to go to. Just to make it fair. Then have a huge estate tax so we aren't passing down wealth like medieval barons.
 
/—-/ So they all lied. Sure they did. Sure they did. You’ll defend the predator and his enabler until your dying breath.

Ken Starr spent 70 million dollars trying to verify any of their stories.

He couldn't.

I'll repeat that again- 70 Million hard earned tax dollars... All the resources of the FBI. All he was able to prove is that Bill Clinton lied about a consensual relationship with Monica Lewinsky.
/—-/ The only time Dems worry about wasting money is when it’s used to expose DemocRATS dirty deeds.
 
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