So Trump believes PUTIN is the better leader?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia was already in Crimea. With thousands of troops that had been allowed for several decades.

Russia was allowed to port naval ships in Sevastapol, not the entire Crimea, retard.

And the treaty allowing them to be there was set to expire in 2017.

No the Treaty was extended for another 25 years. Look it up. Now as I put in my other post Crimea was autonomous and asked Russia to assist in the secession from the nazi lovers in Kiev.

There wasn't. Russia was already in Crimea. With thousands of troops that had been allowed for several decades.

If you are there and you are asked to protect the Russian people of Crimea it's not an invasion.

Holy shit!

So if Mexican Army paratroopers drop into the US to "protect the Mexican people of California", it's not an invasion, right?

The Ukrainian government did not ask Russia to invade the Crimea, dumbass, and that is all that matters.

Goddamn. I've seen some amazing leaps and twists of idiocy by apologists for Russia before, but you take the cake.

By the way, you incredibly ignorant dipshit, Russia has also invaded the eastern part of Ukraine.

Re: Crimea. It was autonomous and had every right to ask Russia to protect her people from the nazi loving sons of bitches Bandera idolizing bastard in Kiev that America, NATO and the EU turned the Ukraine over to.

Re: Eastern Ukraine has not been invaded by Russia. Those are Ukrainian rebels fighting the nazi army of Kiev.

You have been using the exact same reasoning Hitler gave for invading the Sudetenland.

Identical.

Here's the truth. You might want to try accepting it some time. Not one source is Russia Today.

Ukraine crisis: Crimea leader appeals to Putin for help

Ukraine crisis: Crimea leader appeals to Putin for help - BBC News

and you will find the same story here

Ukraine's Crimea leader asks Putin for help
Prime minister of autonomous region appeals for help

Ukraine's Crimea leader asks Putin for help

and here (pssssst it's CBS)

Pro-Russian leader in Crimea asks Putin for help

Pro-Russian leader in Crimea asks Putin for help

and here it's the Guardian in Britain

Crimea crisis: pro-Russian leader appeals to Putin for help

Crimea crisis: pro-Russian leader appeals to Putin for help

Let me know if you want more. I'm loaded for bear.

Crimea’s reunification with Russia reflects the will of the majority of the Crimean people, the head of a French delegation visiting the peninsula says. He added that if it had not joined Russia, it could have been turned into a battle zone like east Ukraine.

“The referendum on Crimea’s accession to Russia reflected the will of the people,” Mariani said, adding that, during their visit to the peninsula, the French delegation “got an impression that the decision to reunify with Russia corresponds with the majority opinion” of the Crimean population.

Mariani also stressed that, if it was not for the referendum, the peninsula could have been turned into another battlefront like eastern Ukraine, so “whatever the conditions, the referendum had to be held – and quickly.”

Crimea referendum reflected people’s will – French delegation head
View attachment 88766
^ Crimea after hearing the results of referendum

Putin: Thinking of Crimea, they choose not to notice that the will of the Crimean people, 70 percent of which are ethnic Russians and the rest speak Russian as their native language, was to join Russia. They prefer to ignore this. In one place, in Kosovo, the will of the people can be honoured, but here – it cannot. All of this is about political games.

Indeed, our military personnel were there to ensure security at the voting and referendum. If we had not done so, we would have faced a tragedy even worse than the one in Odessa when people were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions, when nationalists trapped defenceless and unarmed people inside the building and burned them alive.

Most importantly, though, the Crimean parliament, which had been elected two years prior to the voting under the Ukrainian law, voted in favour of the referendum and later, in favour of independence. It is an absolutely legitimate representative body elected by Crimean people. This is first.

Second, the international legal framework. When the settlement of the Kosovo issue was under negotiation, the UN International Court of Justice passed a judgment that was met with applause by all Western partners. The Court decided that the settlement of independence issues did not require the decision of country's central authorities. So, we did everything in accordance with international law, the United Nations Charter and principles of democracy, which include, first of all, the free expression of peoples' will.

Interview to Bloomberg

if it had not joined Russia, it could have been turned into a battle zone like east Ukraine.

Only if Russia invaded and started killing people. Like Russia invaded Ukraine.

 

[defcon4]

Well he is great to islam, he has more muslims than all of europe combined.

Sure, tell that to the Chechen population.

Most love Putin in Chechnya now. You need to get up to speed. Putin's biggest supporter is the leader of Chechnya. He has Putin's back more than any other in Russia. Kadyrov.

And he's Muslim and his people love Kadyrov too. Only the radicals in Chechnya terrorized their own and Russians. Kadyrov has completely turned it around.

He's one awesome piece of work.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well he is great to islam, he has more muslims than all of europe combined.

Sure, tell that to the Chechen population.

Most love Putin in Chechnya now. You need to get up to speed. Putin's biggest supporter is the leader of Chechnya. He has Putin's back more than any other in Russia. Kadyrov.

And he's Muslim and his people love Kadyrov too. Only the radicals in Chechnya terrorized their own and Russians. Kadyrov has completely turned it around.

He's one awesome piece of work.

Putin loves Muslim thugs that he controls.

 

[tinydancer]

Re: Eastern Ukraine has not been invaded by Russia. Those are Ukrainian rebels fighting the nazi army of Kiev.

A complete lie. Do you work for Pravda? Stop gobbling Putin's cock.

What is the lie? That they are rebels? That the Ukrainian army that is fighting there is nazi? And you Obama lover need to get up off your knees and stop getting drilled in the ass by western propaganda.

Both statements are true. Are the rebels receiving weapons from Russia? I don't know and I don't care because the west has no problem supplying weapons to all sorts of rebels to overthrow governments.

So certainly you have no right to complain if Russia assists rebels or helps their allies like we do in the west.

Even steven. And the Azov Battalion are nazi lovers as is the current government in Kiev.

That the Ukrainian army that is fighting there is Nazi?

Ohhhh....Nazis!
What are the 5 biggest differences between Nazis and Commies?

It's the Azov Battalion and yes they like Kiev love and admire the Nazis. The Ukraine's biggest hero is Stepan Bandera who fought with the Nazis. And Bandera's party perpetrated a mass murder of Poles in WWII. Quite a famous massacre.

I know my Ukrainian history very well because I am third generation Ukrainian. And I don't believe in western propaganda any more than I believe any other propaganda.

I believe in facts. Here meet some of the boys fighting for Kiev.

 

[tinydancer]

Well he is great to islam, he has more muslims than all of europe combined.

Sure, tell that to the Chechen population.

Most love Putin in Chechnya now. You need to get up to speed. Putin's biggest supporter is the leader of Chechnya. He has Putin's back more than any other in Russia. Kadyrov.

And he's Muslim and his people love Kadyrov too. Only the radicals in Chechnya terrorized their own and Russians. Kadyrov has completely turned it around.

He's one awesome piece of work.

Putin loves Muslim thugs that he controls.

I guess the same could be said for Obama.



But seriously, there is no controlling Kadyrov. He is his own man. And his loyalty is to Putin.

 

[defcon4]

Well he is great to islam, he has more muslims than all of europe combined.

Sure, tell that to the Chechen population.

Most love Putin in Chechnya now. You need to get up to speed. Putin's biggest supporter is the leader of Chechnya. He has Putin's back more than any other in Russia. Kadyrov.

And he's Muslim and his people love Kadyrov too. Only the radicals in Chechnya terrorized their own and Russians. Kadyrov has completely turned it around.

He's one awesome piece of work.

Putin loves Muslim thugs that he controls.

I guess the same could be said for Obama.



But seriously, there is no controlling Kadyrov. He is his own man. And his loyalty is to Putin.

 

[Stratford57]

Re: Eastern Ukraine has not been invaded by Russia. Those are Ukrainian rebels fighting the nazi army of Kiev.

A complete lie. Do you work for Pravda? Stop gobbling Putin's cock.

What is the lie? That they are rebels? That the Ukrainian army that is fighting there is nazi? And you Obama lover need to get up off your knees and stop getting drilled in the ass by western propaganda.

Both statements are true. Are the rebels receiving weapons from Russia? I don't know and I don't care because the west has no problem supplying weapons to all sorts of rebels to overthrow governments.

So certainly you have no right to complain if Russia assists rebels or helps their allies like we do in the west.

Even steven. And the Azov Battalion are nazi lovers as is the current government in Kiev.

That the Ukrainian army that is fighting there is Nazi?

Ohhhh....Nazis!
What are the 5 biggest differences between Nazis and Commies?

It's the Azov Battalion and yes they like Kiev love and admire the Nazis. The Ukraine's biggest hero is Stepan Bandera who fought with the Nazis. And Bandera's party perpetrated a mass murder of Poles in WWII. Quite a famous massacre.

I know my Ukrainian history very well because I am third generation Ukrainian. And I don't believe in western propaganda any more than I believe any other propaganda.

I believe in facts. Here meet some of the boys fighting for Kiev.

I swear, some people like Toddster have no idea about either what's really going on in Ukraine or the history of that part of the world. And that history is very scary.

Polish Senate pays tribute to the citizens of the Second Polish Republic brutally murdered by Ukrainian nationalists, says the resolution.

On July 15, 2013, Poland's Sejm adopted a special resolution dedicated to the 70th anniversary of the Volyn massacre. The resolution stated that crimes committed by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army were of "the nature of an ethnic cleansing with signs of genocide." The resolution also specifies the number of Polish victims, killed in Volyn and Eastern Galicia in 1942-1945, to be around 100,000 people.
Senate of Poland voted for recognizing Volyn 1940 massacre as a genocide

«The Senate of the Republic pays tribute to the citizens of the II Republic were brutally murdered by Ukrainian nationalists», – stated in the decree.

As you know, on Thursday in relations between Kiev and Warsaw there is an additional reason for tension is due to the fact that Kyiv city Council has renamed the Moscow Avenue in the prospect of Stepan Bandera. Poland took this action as unfriendly.
The Polish Senate has voted for recognizing Volyn tragedy genocide

"The Senate of the Republic of Poland pays tribute to the residents of the Second Republic of Poland, brutally killed by Ukrainian nationalists", - stated in the text of the document. The UPA is praised as national heroes by the current Ukrainian regime.
Senate of Poland acknowledged the Volyn massacre as genocide

The document States that “the Volyn massacre, in addition to the poles killed Jews, Armenians, Czechs and representatives of other national minorities as well as Ukrainians who tried to help the victims.”
The Polish Senate adopted a resolution on recognizing Volyn tragedy genocide

"It is important that the Senate has adopted the resolution before July 11, the day when we traditionally commemorate the victims of the genocide, committed by the Ukrainian nationalists. ",a Polish official said.
Polish Senate calls for recognizing Volyn massacre as genocide

July 22: WARSAW, Poland — Poland’s right-wing dominated parliament resolved that the massacre of 100,000 Poles by Ukrainian nationalists seven decades ago was a genocide, reversing a 2013 decision by liberal lawmakers that stopped short of saying so.
Poland says WWII massacre by Ukraine was a genocide

As reported, on 7 July, the deputies of Kyiv city Council renamed Moskow prospect to the prospect of Stepan Bandera. Aug, 3: The mayor of Kiev Vitali Klitschko signed a city Council decision to rename Moscow Avenue to the Avenue of Stepan Bandera.
Klitschko has signed a rename Moscow Avenue in Bandera Avenue

 

[tinydancer]

Putin's biggest supporter is the leader of Chechnya.

Well, that's like saying that Castro was one of Putin's biggest supporter......

Kadyrov, the head of the Chechnya federation, swears loyalty to Putin, but critics say he has carved out a state within a state enforcing a strict Islamic "code of virtue" for women and using methods against insurgents human rights groups see as civil rights abuses.

Chechens are happy. Even the leader of the resistance Zakayev is cool with Kadyrov and called for the end of the separist movement. Russians are happy. No more terrorists.

Only people not happy are the Chechen terrorists who have pledged their allegiance to ISIS and many are fighting in both Syria and Afghanistan.

 

[nat4900]

But seriously, there is no controlling Kadyrov. He is his own man. And his loyalty is to Putin.

LOL, TinyBrains

Putin said he had signed a decree appointing [Kadyrov] acting leader until regional elections in September when he said he hoped that voters would recognize all Kadyrov had achieved.

In previous elections in Chechnya in the past few years, candidates endorsed by the Kremlin have won by huge margins.

Putin's decision was widely expected. Alienating Kadyrov, who commands tens of thousands of armed loyalists and has concentrated power in his own hands, would have risked re-igniting an Islamist insurgency that he has helped the Kremlin leader defeat. Since he was formally appointed by Putin in 2007, Kadyrov has overseen the rebuilding of the Chechen capital Grozny....

Putin endorses Chechnya leader, but says must respect Russian laws

 

[Stratford57]

Putin's biggest supporter is the leader of Chechnya.

Well, that's like saying that Castro was one of Putin's biggest supporter......

Kadyrov, the head of the Chechnya federation, swears loyalty to Putin, but critics say he has carved out a state within a state enforcing a strict Islamic "code of virtue" for women and using methods against insurgents human rights groups see as civil rights abuses.

Chechens are happy. Even the leader of the resistance Zakayev is cool with Kadyrov and called for the end of the separist movement. Russians are happy. No more terrorists.

Only people not happy are the Chechen terrorists who have pledged their allegiance to ISIS and many are fighting in both Syria and Afghanistan.

Speaking about Chechnian war, which actually has been encouraged and sponsored from abroad, just like Ukrainian coup, same scenario, nothing new.

Putin: Not to mention a very sensitive period in our history – the traumatic events in the Caucasus and the Chechen Republic. As a journalist, you should know what was the reaction of the Western political establishment and the media. Did they support Russia's legitimate authorities in their efforts to restore and strengthen the statehood? No, quite the opposite, they supported separatism, and, in fact, terrorism. Everybody was turning a deaf ear to the fact that Al-Qaeda was fighting there, side by side with militants and separatists. They told us, “Do not worry, we are just concerned about the development of democracy in your country.” Thank you very much for such care! But still, our attitude is positive, we understand the logics of political and geopolitical struggle, and we stand ready to cooperate if our partners are ready for such cooperation.

Interview to Bloomberg

 

[tinydancer]

Fuck. I can't bleev we actually have someone stupid enough to bleev Russia has not invaded Ukraine.

This has to be a fucking joke.

I'm third generation Ukrainian. And the propaganda the west has put out there to justify the overthrow that THEY backed to depose a duly elected President and his party is just that. Bullshit propaganda.

Yeah, it was sad when Putin's puppet ran away before his people could give him the Ceaușescu treatment.

First off his election was monitored by the EU's election branch and it was fair and square. As was the election of his party.

Putin's puppet. No. Ally. Just as the US has allies with people in power that favor doing business with America. Are you going to call the Presidents of France or Germany or Italy or Belgium or the Prime Minister of Britain America's puppets?

I believe that would be a grave insult to all those leaders.

As to running away, he is very lucky to have escaped with his life from the nazis the west installed in power.

As was the election of his party.

As was the election after he fled.
The election where no Nazis got elected.

Putin's puppet. No. Ally.

Puppet.

You've got ass backwards. It was the election of the nazi lovers that we support.

With your bizarre assertion that the Ukrainian President was Putin's puppet then everyone in the world that deals with America has a leader that is an American puppet.

Got it!



You know toddster if you want to believe all of Obama's bullshit it's your right to do so even though the facts are polar opposite to the propaganda.

I back up everything I say with facts and truth. I have no need to spout opinions because I deal in realities.

 

[tinydancer]

But seriously, there is no controlling Kadyrov. He is his own man. And his loyalty is to Putin.

LOL, TinyBrains

Putin said he had signed a decree appointing [Kadyrov] acting leader until regional elections in September when he said he hoped that voters would recognize all Kadyrov had achieved.

In previous elections in Chechnya in the past few years, candidates endorsed by the Kremlin have won by huge margins.

Putin's decision was widely expected. Alienating Kadyrov, who commands tens of thousands of armed loyalists and has concentrated power in his own hands, would have risked re-igniting an Islamist insurgency that he has helped the Kremlin leader defeat. Since he was formally appointed by Putin in 2007, Kadyrov has overseen the rebuilding of the Chechen capital Grozny....

Putin endorses Chechnya leader, but says must respect Russian laws

Your own post confirms what I said. Kadyrov is his own man. Very powerful. And his loyalty is to Putin.

 

[tinydancer]

Russia was allowed to port naval ships in Sevastapol, not the entire Crimea, retard.

And the treaty allowing them to be there was set to expire in 2017.

No the Treaty was extended for another 25 years. Look it up. Now as I put in my other post Crimea was autonomous and asked Russia to assist in the secession from the nazi lovers in Kiev.

Holy shit!

So if Mexican Army paratroopers drop into the US to "protect the Mexican people of California", it's not an invasion, right?

The Ukrainian government did not ask Russia to invade the Crimea, dumbass, and that is all that matters.

Goddamn. I've seen some amazing leaps and twists of idiocy by apologists for Russia before, but you take the cake.

By the way, you incredibly ignorant dipshit, Russia has also invaded the eastern part of Ukraine.

Re: Crimea. It was autonomous and had every right to ask Russia to protect her people from the nazi loving sons of bitches Bandera idolizing bastard in Kiev that America, NATO and the EU turned the Ukraine over to.

Re: Eastern Ukraine has not been invaded by Russia. Those are Ukrainian rebels fighting the nazi army of Kiev.

You have been using the exact same reasoning Hitler gave for invading the Sudetenland.

Identical.

Here's the truth. You might want to try accepting it some time. Not one source is Russia Today.

Ukraine crisis: Crimea leader appeals to Putin for help

Ukraine crisis: Crimea leader appeals to Putin for help - BBC News

and you will find the same story here

Ukraine's Crimea leader asks Putin for help
Prime minister of autonomous region appeals for help

Ukraine's Crimea leader asks Putin for help

and here (pssssst it's CBS)

Pro-Russian leader in Crimea asks Putin for help

Pro-Russian leader in Crimea asks Putin for help

and here it's the Guardian in Britain

Crimea crisis: pro-Russian leader appeals to Putin for help

Crimea crisis: pro-Russian leader appeals to Putin for help

Let me know if you want more. I'm loaded for bear.

Crimea’s reunification with Russia reflects the will of the majority of the Crimean people, the head of a French delegation visiting the peninsula says. He added that if it had not joined Russia, it could have been turned into a battle zone like east Ukraine.

“The referendum on Crimea’s accession to Russia reflected the will of the people,” Mariani said, adding that, during their visit to the peninsula, the French delegation “got an impression that the decision to reunify with Russia corresponds with the majority opinion” of the Crimean population.

Mariani also stressed that, if it was not for the referendum, the peninsula could have been turned into another battlefront like eastern Ukraine, so “whatever the conditions, the referendum had to be held – and quickly.”

Crimea referendum reflected people’s will – French delegation head
View attachment 88766
^ Crimea after hearing the results of referendum

Putin: Thinking of Crimea, they choose not to notice that the will of the Crimean people, 70 percent of which are ethnic Russians and the rest speak Russian as their native language, was to join Russia. They prefer to ignore this. In one place, in Kosovo, the will of the people can be honoured, but here – it cannot. All of this is about political games.

Indeed, our military personnel were there to ensure security at the voting and referendum. If we had not done so, we would have faced a tragedy even worse than the one in Odessa when people were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions, when nationalists trapped defenceless and unarmed people inside the building and burned them alive.

Most importantly, though, the Crimean parliament, which had been elected two years prior to the voting under the Ukrainian law, voted in favour of the referendum and later, in favour of independence. It is an absolutely legitimate representative body elected by Crimean people. This is first.

Second, the international legal framework. When the settlement of the Kosovo issue was under negotiation, the UN International Court of Justice passed a judgment that was met with applause by all Western partners. The Court decided that the settlement of independence issues did not require the decision of country's central authorities. So, we did everything in accordance with international law, the United Nations Charter and principles of democracy, which include, first of all, the free expression of peoples' will.

Interview to Bloomberg

if it had not joined Russia, it could have been turned into a battle zone like east Ukraine.

Only if Russia invaded and started killing people. Like Russia invaded Ukraine.

When and how did Russia invade the Ukraine? Please prove this invasion occured.

 

[nat4900]

And his loyalty is to Putin.

Sure, as long as Putin keeps appointing him.....Yep, there's a lot of long, lasting love between these two. LOL

 

[Theowl32]

Every leader in the world believes that. Fact.

The world is laughing at the idiocy and limp wristed weakness of this asshole.

Oh, BTW has it been reported that Iran has taken at least 3 more hostages SINCE we paid that ransom? You know, the ransom that was not a ransom?

The world is spitting on us, much to the delight of utter pieces of shit like the fuckstick OP who still thinks man made global warming is real.

Fucking morons on the left.

 

[nat4900]

Oh, BTW has it been reported that Iran has taken at least 3 more hostages SINCE we paid that ransom? You know, the ransom that was not a ransom?

The world is spitting on us, much to the delight of utter pieces of shit the fuckstick OP who still thinks man made global warming is real.

Fucking morons on the left.

Well, bOWL el movement did you ever wonder WHY an American would still visit Iran????.... And were all those other so-called hostages Americans? Do you think that there would be ANY spying going on in Iran by the West?

Simple questions for your half brain, don't you think???

 

[Sbiker]

So Trump believes Putin is the better leader? Seriously?

Lets look at putins job as president of Russia.
-His economy(russian economy) took a huge hit as the world told him to fuck off after his invasion.
http://nationalinterest.org/files/s...es/UD-russia-GDP-change-940.jpg?itok=D0-NQn70

Oil production has slowed!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03524/russia_econ_3524194b.jpg

https://www.nationalreview.com/sites/default/files/russian-economy-figure-1.jpg

Plus he has lost every war he has gotten into!!! He has silenced gays, and acted like a dictator of his own people, Yet you believe he is the better leader? hahahaha


Here is a little something for the loserterians to consider.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/109030/large/Obamacare___Job_Growth_(Sept_14).png?1412340116

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-a...lum-line/files/2016/01/Job-growth-3.jpg&w=480

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/unnamed.jpg

Think about it! Obama has created 10 million private sector jobs, stopped the mess Bush caused that had us losing 800,000 jobs/month and ended up with records left and right in the stock market. Putin? Not so much.

What's wrong? Who knows, what he think really, but he works at good relations, being solidary with majority of Russia, who elected Putin...

 

[paulitician]

Once again Trump is Spot On. Clearly, Obama hates America far more than Putin does. Thank God that Kenyan village will be getting its idiot back very soon. To hell with Obama.

 

[Timmy]

So Trump believes Putin is the better leader? Seriously?

Lets look at putins job as president of Russia.
-His economy(russian economy) took a huge hit as the world told him to fuck off after his invasion.
http://nationalinterest.org/files/s...es/UD-russia-GDP-change-940.jpg?itok=D0-NQn70

Oil production has slowed!
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03524/russia_econ_3524194b.jpg

https://www.nationalreview.com/sites/default/files/russian-economy-figure-1.jpg

Plus he has lost every war he has gotten into!!! He has silenced gays, and acted like a dictator of his own people, Yet you believe he is the better leader? hahahaha


Here is a little something for the loserterians to consider.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/109030/large/Obamacare___Job_Growth_(Sept_14).png?1412340116

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-a...lum-line/files/2016/01/Job-growth-3.jpg&w=480

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/unnamed.jpg

Think about it! Obama has created 10 million private sector jobs, stopped the mess Bush caused that had us losing 800,000 jobs/month and ended up with records left and right in the stock market. Putin? Not so much.

What's wrong? Who knows, what he think really, but he works at good relations, being solidary with majority of Russia, who elected Putin...

Saddam Hussien also won landslide "elections "!

 

[tinydancer]

Russia was already in Crimea. With thousands of troops that had been allowed for several decades.

Russia was allowed to port naval ships in Sevastapol, not the entire Crimea, retard.

And the treaty allowing them to be there was set to expire in 2017.

No the Treaty was extended for another 25 years. Look it up. Now as I put in my other post Crimea was autonomous and asked Russia to assist in the secession from the nazi lovers in Kiev.

There wasn't. Russia was already in Crimea. With thousands of troops that had been allowed for several decades.

If you are there and you are asked to protect the Russian people of Crimea it's not an invasion.

Holy shit!

So if Mexican Army paratroopers drop into the US to "protect the Mexican people of California", it's not an invasion, right?

The Ukrainian government did not ask Russia to invade the Crimea, dumbass, and that is all that matters.

Goddamn. I've seen some amazing leaps and twists of idiocy by apologists for Russia before, but you take the cake.

By the way, you incredibly ignorant dipshit, Russia has also invaded the eastern part of Ukraine.

Re: Crimea. It was autonomous and had every right to ask Russia to protect her people from the nazi loving sons of bitches Bandera idolizing bastard in Kiev that America, NATO and the EU turned the Ukraine over to.

Re: Eastern Ukraine has not been invaded by Russia. Those are Ukrainian rebels fighting the nazi army of Kiev.

You have been using the exact same reasoning Hitler gave for invading the Sudetenland.

Identical.

Here's the truth. You might want to try accepting it some time. Not one source is Russia Today.

Ukraine crisis: Crimea leader appeals to Putin for help

Ukraine crisis: Crimea leader appeals to Putin for help - BBC News

and you will find the same story here

Ukraine's Crimea leader asks Putin for help
Prime minister of autonomous region appeals for help

Ukraine's Crimea leader asks Putin for help

and here (pssssst it's CBS)

Pro-Russian leader in Crimea asks Putin for help

Pro-Russian leader in Crimea asks Putin for help

and here it's the Guardian in Britain

Crimea crisis: pro-Russian leader appeals to Putin for help

Crimea crisis: pro-Russian leader appeals to Putin for help

Let me know if you want more. I'm loaded for bear.

Crimea’s reunification with Russia reflects the will of the majority of the Crimean people, the head of a French delegation visiting the peninsula says. He added that if it had not joined Russia, it could have been turned into a battle zone like east Ukraine.

“The referendum on Crimea’s accession to Russia reflected the will of the people,” Mariani said, adding that, during their visit to the peninsula, the French delegation “got an impression that the decision to reunify with Russia corresponds with the majority opinion” of the Crimean population.

Mariani also stressed that, if it was not for the referendum, the peninsula could have been turned into another battlefront like eastern Ukraine, so “whatever the conditions, the referendum had to be held – and quickly.”

Crimea referendum reflected people’s will – French delegation head
View attachment 88766
^ Crimea after hearing the results of referendum

Putin: Thinking of Crimea, they choose not to notice that the will of the Crimean people, 70 percent of which are ethnic Russians and the rest speak Russian as their native language, was to join Russia. They prefer to ignore this. In one place, in Kosovo, the will of the people can be honoured, but here – it cannot. All of this is about political games.

Indeed, our military personnel were there to ensure security at the voting and referendum. If we had not done so, we would have faced a tragedy even worse than the one in Odessa when people were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions, when nationalists trapped defenceless and unarmed people inside the building and burned them alive.

Most importantly, though, the Crimean parliament, which had been elected two years prior to the voting under the Ukrainian law, voted in favour of the referendum and later, in favour of independence. It is an absolutely legitimate representative body elected by Crimean people. This is first.

Second, the international legal framework. When the settlement of the Kosovo issue was under negotiation, the UN International Court of Justice passed a judgment that was met with applause by all Western partners. The Court decided that the settlement of independence issues did not require the decision of country's central authorities. So, we did everything in accordance with international law, the United Nations Charter and principles of democracy, which include, first of all, the free expression of peoples' will.

Interview to Bloomberg

Excellent. You know what Stratford I understand that liberals believe all of Obama's propaganda and the west's propaganda. BUT I do not understand conservatives who don't believe a damn thing that Obama says on any other issue, but they buy into this "Russia is the bogeyman" crap.

Despite being presented with facts over and over and over. It's nuts.