So Why All the Lying About Russia?

[Lesh]

I didn't think you had a response

 

[Markle]

That place is almost as corrupt as Venezuela. ANYONE doing business in that Mafia owned cesspool is doing it knowing that they HAVE to present appropriate bribes and gifts.

And oh...Trump was going to build a mega billion dollar Tower in Moscow...wasn't he? He was working on that deal at the same time that the Russians were fucking with our election trying to get Trump elected...right?

Oh...

Donald Trump was exploring the possibility of building a tower in Moscow, Specifically, what about that is illegal?

What does your term "mega-billion dollar" mean?

In which presidential election do you believe the Russians, or the then USSR NOT tried to influence our elections?

As you know, failed former President Barack Hussein Obama used hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to influence the elections in Israel. Why would you think that didn't give the green light to anyone to try to influence our elections?

Was Donald Trump to stop doing any business while he was running for President? Why? It was impossible for him to win, right?

 

[Care4all]

Donald Trump was exploring the possibility of building a tower in Moscow, Specifically, what about that is illegal?

Nothing wrong with it, IF he had told us about it, instead of lying over and over again about it and many other Russian connections.

In which presidential election do you believe the Russians, or the then USSR NOT tried to influence our elections?

this election in 2016 was a MASSIVE, INTERFERENCE PLAN, run by the Russian government..... unlike anything they had ever done before.

As you know, failed former President Barack Hussein Obama used hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to influence the elections in Israel. Why would you think that didn't give the green light to anyone to try to influence our elections?

that's simply untrue, fact check it, the money spent in Israel was a support for a program, and all money was spent on this program, was spent PRIOR to Netanyahu ever announcing he was calling another election.... so it was NOT used to influence an election.... no one KNEW there would be an election.

Was Donald Trump to stop doing any business while he was running for President? Why? It was impossible for him to win, right?

No, but he should not have LIED ABOUT IT.... if he had nothing to hide...?

 

[Lesh]

Donald Trump was exploring the possibility of building a tower in Moscow, Specifically, what about that is illegal?

He did this WHILE the Russians were aiding his election and he LIED about it.

And then there is the fact that NOTHING happens in Russia...especially Moscow that isn't tainted by corruption

 

[Markle]

I know what the thread is about you friggin tard. I started it.

It's asking why all the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LIES about Russian meetings were told.

Can you answer that or are you going to continue to troll like a Russian troll bot

No collusion. What part of that is not clear to you?

 

[Markle]

Nothing wrong with it, IF he had told us about it, instead of lying over and over again about it and many other Russian connections.

I've been a Realtor for 40+ years. Nothing on the level of the Great Donald Trump. You never, ever discuss a deal in the making. Word gets out and the price skyrockets. NO COLLUSION!

this election in 2016 was a MASSIVE, INTERFERENCE PLAN, run by the Russian government..... unlike anything they had ever done before.

PLEASE show us the MASSIVE INTERFERENCE PLAN. Please show where it was "unlike anything they had ever done before". So what? NO COLLUSION!

that's simply untrue, fact check it, the money spent in Israel was a support for a program, and all money was spent on this program, was spent PRIOR to Netanyahu ever announcing he was calling another election.... so it was NOT used to influence an election.... no one KNEW there would be an election.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 12, 2016
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples
by STEVE BALDWIN

June 14, 2017, 12:00 AM
[...]
Obama’s State Department gave $350,000 to a group called the “One Voice Movement (OVM),” for supporting “peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.” However, the State Department then used leftover funds to organize an effort against Netanyahu’s reelection. OVM contracted out a group called “V15,” which in turned hired five campaign experts from the U.S., including Obama’s field director from his last presidential campaign. As the Weekly Standard’s Jim Swift wrote, “once the infrastructure was built, it was used in an attempt to topple the government of one of America’s closest allies.”
[...]
Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples | The American Spectator | Politics is too important to be taken seriously.

No, but he should not have LIED ABOUT IT.... if he had nothing to hide...?

NO COLLUSION

 

[Markle]

He did this WHILE the Russians were aiding his election and he LIED about it.

And then there is the fact that NOTHING happens in Russia...especially Moscow that isn't tainted by corruption

How did candidate Donald Trump know the Russians were aiding his campaign (IF they were) since it has been proven there was NO COLLUSION?

 

[Lesh]

How did candidate Donald Trump know the Russians were aiding his campaign (IF they were) since it has been proven there was NO COLLUSION?

He was TOLD in Aug of 2016 by the FBI

 

[Lesh]

I have yet to get an explanation for all the lies that Trump associates have told about Russian meeting.

 

[hadit]

I have yet to get an explanation for all the lies that Trump associates have told about Russian meeting.

I guess you'll have to ask them, as anything anyone on here says about motive is pure speculation. I can make something up if you'd like.

 

[Crixus]

Supposedly the Mueller Report says that there was no "collusion".

So why did all those people lie...about Russia and meetings with Russians?

Flynn
Pence
Don Jr
Kushner
Sessions
Papadopolous
Trump himself
I'm sure I missed a few...

Russia is a third rate economic power run by a Mafia cartel that has a second rate military and nukes. Putin is desperately trying to foment social discord and political discord, trying to break up the EU, backed right wing fascist groups in France, Eastern Europe, Spain, and throughout the world...

These people didn't lie about meetings with France. They didn't even lie about meetings with China (that we know of). They lied about Russia.

Why?

Some have said that these people are simply liars. They lie about everything. That in ITSELF is a problem but more than that...it's always Russia

WHY?

Hopefully the Mueller report answers that question

 

[Lesh]

I have yet to get an explanation for all the lies that Trump associates have told about Russian meeting.

I guess you'll have to ask them, as anything anyone on here says about motive is pure speculation. I can make something up if you'd like.

GHhaead. Let's see if it makes sense.

People lie for a reason. What reason was there for ALL those lies about Russian meetings?

 

[jc456]

Debunk away, I'll wait.

Wrong thread sock puppet.

Take your beating elsewhere

So you have nothing.

This is the correct thread. Your abject stuipdity is embarassing.

i'll tell you the same thing i've told another whackjob poster not too long ago:

so how many years ago was that exchange again? guess obama is running on CPT huh? when ARE those shenanigans you think are gonna happen anyway? i mean after all - he imposed sanctions on them thar roooskies, AND expelled roooskie spies, AND closed down their compounds. what has donny done? oh yea..... it took a veto act of congress to finally imposed even more stringent sanctions. & he didn't he just have one lifted against a russian?

why yes.... yes he did.

So...yes, Clinton sold Uranium rights to the Russians.

Thank you!

uranium one - - - debunked.

but i was talking about obama's so called 'incriminating' video.

only in a leftists dream.

 

[Care4all]

Nothing wrong with it, IF he had told us about it, instead of lying over and over again about it and many other Russian connections.

I've been a Realtor for 40+ years. Nothing on the level of the Great Donald Trump. You never, ever discuss a deal in the making. Word gets out and the price skyrockets. NO COLLUSION!

this election in 2016 was a MASSIVE, INTERFERENCE PLAN, run by the Russian government..... unlike anything they had ever done before.

PLEASE show us the MASSIVE INTERFERENCE PLAN. Please show where it was "unlike anything they had ever done before". So what? NO COLLUSION!

that's simply untrue, fact check it, the money spent in Israel was a support for a program, and all money was spent on this program, was spent PRIOR to Netanyahu ever announcing he was calling another election.... so it was NOT used to influence an election.... no one KNEW there would be an election.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 12, 2016
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples
by STEVE BALDWIN

June 14, 2017, 12:00 AM
[...]
Obama’s State Department gave $350,000 to a group called the “One Voice Movement (OVM),” for supporting “peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.” However, the State Department then used leftover funds to organize an effort against Netanyahu’s reelection. OVM contracted out a group called “V15,” which in turned hired five campaign experts from the U.S., including Obama’s field director from his last presidential campaign. As the Weekly Standard’s Jim Swift wrote, “once the infrastructure was built, it was used in an attempt to topple the government of one of America’s closest allies.”
[...]
Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples | The American Spectator | Politics is too important to be taken seriously.

Nope! All the money spent by the USA for support for a 2 State solution was spent BEFORE Netanyahu called for an early election.

Did President Barack Obama spend U.S. taxpayer dollars trying to toss Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu out of office?

Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel
By Jon Greenberg on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015 at 12:12 p.m.

That’s a claim floating around conservative media websites in recent days. A conservative blog called Fire Andrea Mitchell was one of several to relay a Fox News report about alleged back-door funding in the recent Israeli elections. On March 16, 2015, the blogger wrote "Obama has been sending taxpayer dollars, at least $350,000 to fund anti-Likud, anti Netanyahu groups in Israel for tomorrow’s election."

Fox News said a congressional investigation into the matter is underway, and presidential contender Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, along with Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., sent a letter about this to federal officials "to express our strong concerns over recent media reports."

What are the facts of the matter?

The basis of the claim

In September 2013, the State Department funded two projects run by OneVoice, a New York nonprofit. The OneVoice mission is clear -- to advance a two-state solution in Israel and the Palestinian territories.

"Through OneVoice, young grassroots activists in Israel and Palestine are equipped with the knowledge and skills to be heard as they build momentum and a constituency for the two-state solution locally and internationally," the organization wrote in its 2013 annual report.

Affiliates OneVoice Israel got $233,500 from the State Department to spend in Israel and OneVoice Palestine got another $115,776 to spend in the Palestinian Territories. That adds up to a little more than $349,000.

The question is: Do those contributions amount to funding "anti-Likud, anti-Netanyahu groups in Israel for tomorrow’s election"?

How OneVoice says the money was spent

Given that residents of the Palestinian Territories can’t vote in national Israeli elections, it’s hard to see how money spent there would influence voters in Israel. That leave us to account for $233,500.

Payton Knopf, senior director of global communications for OneVoice, said the money helped fund a series of "town-hall style meetings on university campuses and provided support to the Knesset Caucus for the Two-State Solution in organizing a meeting with 300 Israeli students and (Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud) Abbas in February 2014."

Knopf told us the State Department money was spent by November 2014 -- nearly four months ago. OneVoice, he said, never "spent any U.S. government funds in connection with the recent elections in Israel. Claims to the contrary are simply wrong."

There are two important points to unpack there. If OneVoice says it spent the money by November 2014, that would be before the Israeli elections were even scheduled. That happened in December after Netanyahu called for early elections.

The State Department said in a briefing that "no payment was made to OneVoice after November 2014."

That would contradict the way the claim in the blog was phrased. "Has been sending" says the money continues to flow. In this case the money was spent and disbursed months ago.

Second, while Netanyahu waffled on the notion of a two-state solution in the run-up to the Israeli elections, the prime minister had been on record supporting a two-state strategy in November and the months before it.


Read more:
Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

I found the Senate investigation and again, there was no wrong doing by Obama and the State Department, though they suggest being more careful next time around, with restrictions on how the USA efforts could not be utilized for other purposes later on.

Senate report: State Dept. grant also aided campaign to unseat Netanyahu

 

[buckeye45_73]

You have to be specific genius.......what did Don Jr lie about?

Trump Tower in Russia.

No Trump Tower in Russia. That was cooked up by Lanny Davis.

trump signed a letter of intent for that very same moscow tower.

so? is that illegal? show me the statute he violated.

i never said it was illegal............ i am pointing out the big fat lie that there was 'No Trump Tower. That was cooked up by Lanny Davis'.

What? Who said any of that?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Debunk away, I'll wait.

Wrong thread sock puppet.

Take your beating elsewhere

So you have nothing.

This is the correct thread. Your abject stuipdity is embarassing.

i'll tell you the same thing i've told another whackjob poster not too long ago:

so how many years ago was that exchange again? guess obama is running on CPT huh? when ARE those shenanigans you think are gonna happen anyway? i mean after all - he imposed sanctions on them thar roooskies, AND expelled roooskie spies, AND closed down their compounds. what has donny done? oh yea..... it took a veto act of congress to finally imposed even more stringent sanctions. & he didn't he just have one lifted against a russian?

why yes.... yes he did.

So...yes, Clinton sold Uranium rights to the Russians.

Thank you!

uranium one - - - debunked.

but i was talking about obama's so called 'incriminating' video.

Debunked? how? the collusion story was debunked, there was a real investigation and you got nothing.....show me the investigation into Uranium One?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Nothing wrong with it, IF he had told us about it, instead of lying over and over again about it and many other Russian connections.

I've been a Realtor for 40+ years. Nothing on the level of the Great Donald Trump. You never, ever discuss a deal in the making. Word gets out and the price skyrockets. NO COLLUSION!

this election in 2016 was a MASSIVE, INTERFERENCE PLAN, run by the Russian government..... unlike anything they had ever done before.

PLEASE show us the MASSIVE INTERFERENCE PLAN. Please show where it was "unlike anything they had ever done before". So what? NO COLLUSION!

that's simply untrue, fact check it, the money spent in Israel was a support for a program, and all money was spent on this program, was spent PRIOR to Netanyahu ever announcing he was calling another election.... so it was NOT used to influence an election.... no one KNEW there would be an election.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 12, 2016
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples
by STEVE BALDWIN

June 14, 2017, 12:00 AM
[...]
Obama’s State Department gave $350,000 to a group called the “One Voice Movement (OVM),” for supporting “peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.” However, the State Department then used leftover funds to organize an effort against Netanyahu’s reelection. OVM contracted out a group called “V15,” which in turned hired five campaign experts from the U.S., including Obama’s field director from his last presidential campaign. As the Weekly Standard’s Jim Swift wrote, “once the infrastructure was built, it was used in an attempt to topple the government of one of America’s closest allies.”
[...]
Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples | The American Spectator | Politics is too important to be taken seriously.

Nope! All the money spent by the USA for support for a 2 State solution was spent BEFORE Netanyahu called for an early election.

Did President Barack Obama spend U.S. taxpayer dollars trying to toss Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu out of office?

Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel
By Jon Greenberg on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015 at 12:12 p.m.

That’s a claim floating around conservative media websites in recent days. A conservative blog called Fire Andrea Mitchell was one of several to relay a Fox News report about alleged back-door funding in the recent Israeli elections. On March 16, 2015, the blogger wrote "Obama has been sending taxpayer dollars, at least $350,000 to fund anti-Likud, anti Netanyahu groups in Israel for tomorrow’s election."

Fox News said a congressional investigation into the matter is underway, and presidential contender Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, along with Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., sent a letter about this to federal officials "to express our strong concerns over recent media reports."

What are the facts of the matter?

The basis of the claim

In September 2013, the State Department funded two projects run by OneVoice, a New York nonprofit. The OneVoice mission is clear -- to advance a two-state solution in Israel and the Palestinian territories.

"Through OneVoice, young grassroots activists in Israel and Palestine are equipped with the knowledge and skills to be heard as they build momentum and a constituency for the two-state solution locally and internationally," the organization wrote in its 2013 annual report.

Affiliates OneVoice Israel got $233,500 from the State Department to spend in Israel and OneVoice Palestine got another $115,776 to spend in the Palestinian Territories. That adds up to a little more than $349,000.

The question is: Do those contributions amount to funding "anti-Likud, anti-Netanyahu groups in Israel for tomorrow’s election"?

How OneVoice says the money was spent

Given that residents of the Palestinian Territories can’t vote in national Israeli elections, it’s hard to see how money spent there would influence voters in Israel. That leave us to account for $233,500.

Payton Knopf, senior director of global communications for OneVoice, said the money helped fund a series of "town-hall style meetings on university campuses and provided support to the Knesset Caucus for the Two-State Solution in organizing a meeting with 300 Israeli students and (Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud) Abbas in February 2014."

Knopf told us the State Department money was spent by November 2014 -- nearly four months ago. OneVoice, he said, never "spent any U.S. government funds in connection with the recent elections in Israel. Claims to the contrary are simply wrong."

There are two important points to unpack there. If OneVoice says it spent the money by November 2014, that would be before the Israeli elections were even scheduled. That happened in December after Netanyahu called for early elections.

The State Department said in a briefing that "no payment was made to OneVoice after November 2014."

That would contradict the way the claim in the blog was phrased. "Has been sending" says the money continues to flow. In this case the money was spent and disbursed months ago.

Second, while Netanyahu waffled on the notion of a two-state solution in the run-up to the Israeli elections, the prime minister had been on record supporting a two-state strategy in November and the months before it.


Read more:
Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

I found the Senate investigation and again, there was no wrong doing by Obama and the State Department, though they suggest being more careful next time around, with restrictions on how the USA efforts could not be utilized for other purposes later on.

Senate report: State Dept. grant also aided campaign to unseat Netanyahu

Oh Politifact and of course they would be so honest about politics....we all know the fact checkers are as biased as the news they work for.........guys the jig is up......we know how the system works.

 

[RealDave]

Wrong thread sock puppet.

Take your beating elsewhere

So you have nothing.

This is the correct thread. Your abject stuipdity is embarassing.

i'll tell you the same thing i've told another whackjob poster not too long ago:

so how many years ago was that exchange again? guess obama is running on CPT huh? when ARE those shenanigans you think are gonna happen anyway? i mean after all - he imposed sanctions on them thar roooskies, AND expelled roooskie spies, AND closed down their compounds. what has donny done? oh yea..... it took a veto act of congress to finally imposed even more stringent sanctions. & he didn't he just have one lifted against a russian?

why yes.... yes he did.

So...yes, Clinton sold Uranium rights to the Russians.

Thank you!

uranium one - - - debunked.

but i was talking about obama's so called 'incriminating' video.

Debunked? how? the collusion story was debunked, there was a real investigation and you got nothing.....show me the investigation into Uranium One?

So where does Mueller say that Trump did not collude??? I thought it said they found no evidence of collusion.

 

[buckeye45_73]

why do you want it to continue?

What is it you suggest be done?

I want answers.

Once we have the report we'll see if there are answers

The answers have already told you that there was no collusion, obstruction, etc. It won't matter though. You can't handle the fact that you lost 2016.

there may not have been enough to convict on a charge of conspiracy... but trump HAS NOT been exonerated on OBSTRUCTION & saying he has is a big fat orange LIE.

Name me a prosecutor that has exonerated someone?

trump is saying that mueller has.

He basically has.....no prosecutor comes out and says soandso was exonerated....please show me that? Trump is right, he dealt with 3 years of bullshit like spying on his campaign(which you guys mocked, but he was RIGHT) and he didn't do shit.......not only him but NO AMERICAN helped Russia in ANY WAY........that's the closest you will ever get to a complete exoneration from a prosecutor.

 

[RealDave]

Nothing wrong with it, IF he had told us about it, instead of lying over and over again about it and many other Russian connections.

I've been a Realtor for 40+ years. Nothing on the level of the Great Donald Trump. You never, ever discuss a deal in the making. Word gets out and the price skyrockets. NO COLLUSION!

this election in 2016 was a MASSIVE, INTERFERENCE PLAN, run by the Russian government..... unlike anything they had ever done before.

PLEASE show us the MASSIVE INTERFERENCE PLAN. Please show where it was "unlike anything they had ever done before". So what? NO COLLUSION!

that's simply untrue, fact check it, the money spent in Israel was a support for a program, and all money was spent on this program, was spent PRIOR to Netanyahu ever announcing he was calling another election.... so it was NOT used to influence an election.... no one KNEW there would be an election.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu
Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 12, 2016
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples
by STEVE BALDWIN

June 14, 2017, 12:00 AM
[...]
Obama’s State Department gave $350,000 to a group called the “One Voice Movement (OVM),” for supporting “peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.” However, the State Department then used leftover funds to organize an effort against Netanyahu’s reelection. OVM contracted out a group called “V15,” which in turned hired five campaign experts from the U.S., including Obama’s field director from his last presidential campaign. As the Weekly Standard’s Jim Swift wrote, “once the infrastructure was built, it was used in an attempt to topple the government of one of America’s closest allies.”
[...]
Obama’s Meddling in Foreign Elections: Six Examples | The American Spectator | Politics is too important to be taken seriously.

Nope! All the money spent by the USA for support for a 2 State solution was spent BEFORE Netanyahu called for an early election.

Did President Barack Obama spend U.S. taxpayer dollars trying to toss Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu out of office?

Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel
By Jon Greenberg on Wednesday, March 25th, 2015 at 12:12 p.m.

That’s a claim floating around conservative media websites in recent days. A conservative blog called Fire Andrea Mitchell was one of several to relay a Fox News report about alleged back-door funding in the recent Israeli elections. On March 16, 2015, the blogger wrote "Obama has been sending taxpayer dollars, at least $350,000 to fund anti-Likud, anti Netanyahu groups in Israel for tomorrow’s election."

Fox News said a congressional investigation into the matter is underway, and presidential contender Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, along with Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., sent a letter about this to federal officials "to express our strong concerns over recent media reports."

What are the facts of the matter?

The basis of the claim

In September 2013, the State Department funded two projects run by OneVoice, a New York nonprofit. The OneVoice mission is clear -- to advance a two-state solution in Israel and the Palestinian territories.

"Through OneVoice, young grassroots activists in Israel and Palestine are equipped with the knowledge and skills to be heard as they build momentum and a constituency for the two-state solution locally and internationally," the organization wrote in its 2013 annual report.

Affiliates OneVoice Israel got $233,500 from the State Department to spend in Israel and OneVoice Palestine got another $115,776 to spend in the Palestinian Territories. That adds up to a little more than $349,000.

The question is: Do those contributions amount to funding "anti-Likud, anti-Netanyahu groups in Israel for tomorrow’s election"?

How OneVoice says the money was spent

Given that residents of the Palestinian Territories can’t vote in national Israeli elections, it’s hard to see how money spent there would influence voters in Israel. That leave us to account for $233,500.

Payton Knopf, senior director of global communications for OneVoice, said the money helped fund a series of "town-hall style meetings on university campuses and provided support to the Knesset Caucus for the Two-State Solution in organizing a meeting with 300 Israeli students and (Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud) Abbas in February 2014."

Knopf told us the State Department money was spent by November 2014 -- nearly four months ago. OneVoice, he said, never "spent any U.S. government funds in connection with the recent elections in Israel. Claims to the contrary are simply wrong."

There are two important points to unpack there. If OneVoice says it spent the money by November 2014, that would be before the Israeli elections were even scheduled. That happened in December after Netanyahu called for early elections.

The State Department said in a briefing that "no payment was made to OneVoice after November 2014."

That would contradict the way the claim in the blog was phrased. "Has been sending" says the money continues to flow. In this case the money was spent and disbursed months ago.

Second, while Netanyahu waffled on the notion of a two-state solution in the run-up to the Israeli elections, the prime minister had been on record supporting a two-state strategy in November and the months before it.


Read more:
Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

I found the Senate investigation and again, there was no wrong doing by Obama and the State Department, though they suggest being more careful next time around, with restrictions on how the USA efforts could not be utilized for other purposes later on.

Senate report: State Dept. grant also aided campaign to unseat Netanyahu

Oh Politifact and of course they would be so honest about politics....we all know the fact checkers are as biased as the news they work for.........guys the jig is up......we know how the system works.

I guess we should all just believe Fox, Limbaugh & infowars. Right?