Soldier's mother confirms "Trump did disrespect my son..."

[bodecea]

Fallen soldier’s mother: ‘Trump did disrespect my son’

His widow cried that Trump didn't even remember his name. I guess he prefers the soldiers who aren't killed.

Meh, everyone knows that Trump has more respect for the military than ANY democrat politician.

You self-delude yourself like this often?

This is purely anecdotal, so take it for what it is worth. I volunteer working with special operations units from the various services. I have never heard a positive comment made regarding President Obama. None. He was constantly ridiculed and the butt of many off-color comments. Trump garnered no such negative attention.

My daughter tells me that discussion of politics is strictly forbidden in her Army unit as everyone is still scared shitless of the Obama PC police that still infests the ranks. No one even jokes around for fear their comments will land their ass in hot water.

Odd....I heard the exact opposite from my friends in then and now.

I have ten years experience with these groups. I have yet to meet anyone associated with the military who admits they voted for Hillary.

Do you live in a military town? Do you have relatives in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and several in Air and Army National Guard units? Do most of your friends work for the military like mine? Is your church predominantly all retired veterans? Are you a member of the American Legion?

The answers to all of these questions for me is a big YES!

Miramar to the South and Camp Pendleton to the East. Yes....my wife, my father in law, many of my friends I go out with to eat are retired or former military.......I don't go to a church. I was a member of the Legion when we lived in the Bay Area....not here when I showed up with my DD214 and they handed me an Auxilary App....Have belonged to SAMS (Scottish American Military Society) for a long time.

 

[radical right]

Oh bullshit. Johnson KNEW its a war over there and he KNEW he might not come back. He joined anyway to defend his country which he obviously loved. Trump spoke the truth. His bedside manner may be lacking, but there is nothing really offensive on what he said..

Trump once again blamed the victim

Trump is commander in chief, he sent the soldiers into harms way, and he should have given his condolences, not say it wasn't his fault.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why would they lie?

The Congresswoman and the grieving family have plenty of reasons.

Why would the government lie about the the death of American soldiers?

Holy Christ...

Now you're just fucking with me, right?

I don't know, we never got through the Benghazi lies. obummer interfered.

Almost a year into Trump's presidency and not a step closer. I guess this is one more thing he lied about pursuing. At least we still have "fake news". The gift that keeps on giving in Trumpiverse.

It is hard to get the truth when someone deletes 30,000 e-mails.

You honestly think that our FBI can't recover deleted emails?

They probably did, and there are just enough Clinton sycophants in the FBI to ignore them or delete the evidence again. Look at Comey giving Hillary a pass two months before he even talked to her or anyone else regarding the e-mails.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[aaronleland]

That he had people in the room? Sounds like the both have the same defense, but only one room was full of politicians, military officials and government executives.

Why would they lie?

The Congresswoman and the grieving family have plenty of reasons.

Why would the government lie about the the death of American soldiers?

Holy Christ...

Now you're just fucking with me, right?

What indication do you have that anyone is lying?

Paranoid much?

It's the government. It's like the old saying, "How do you know they are lying? Their lips are moving."

Again, why would they lie?

Why would Obama or Hillary lie in Benghazi? They never would have been held accountable no matter what. Sometimes you make a mistake and shit happens as a world leader. Clinton had Bosnia. Bush had Barbara.

 

[radical right]

If she felt disrespected, she hasn't said. the congresswoman said it. let's let the widow grieve

Trump lied (oh that's a shock) which dragged her into the conversation.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

His “ bedside manner MAY be lacking?”

The understatement of the century.

That is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was not a gourmand.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Why did Trump call and speak with the family 2 weeks after the soldier was killed?

Is this typically how it is done?

because he hadn't yet? I don't know. maybe the caskets finally arrived! are you implying something different?

The anus has no time to meet with caskets. There’s his 12 hour average of watching TV and golf to play.

The brown buffoon before Trump hated the military but you were down with that.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh bullshit. Johnson KNEW its a war over there and he KNEW he might not come back. He joined anyway to defend his country which he obviously loved. Trump spoke the truth. His bedside manner may be lacking, but there is nothing really offensive on what he said..

Trump once again blamed the victim

Trump is commander in chief, he sent the soldiers into harms way, and he should have given his condolences, not say it wasn't his fault.

You really are that fucked in the brain that you can take half a sentence out of a 5 minute conversation and claim Trump trash talked the soldier.

Fucking up the voltage on your next therapy session. Sheesh.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Why would Obama or Hillary lie in Benghazi? They never would have been held accountable no matter what. Sometimes you make a mistake and shit happens as a world leader. Clinton had Bosnia. Bush had Barbara.

"They knew what they were getting into but things sometimes don't workout"

 

[rightwinger]

If she felt disrespected, she hasn't said. the congresswoman said it. let's let the widow grieve

Trump lied (oh that's a shock) which dragged her into the conversation.

As usual....defending Trumps lies takes precedence over consoling Gold Star Families

 

[radical right]

No, the Congresscritter is the one who started this shit! Be precise in your accusations. Otherwise, you are disgraceful!

All she did was report what Trump told the widow on speakerphone.

 

[tinydancer]

His “ bedside manner MAY be lacking?”

The understatement of the century.

That is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was not a gourmand.

You really think General Kelly would have allowed the President to insult and trash talk this soldier and his family. Fucking wow! You are insane.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Meh, everyone knows that Trump has more respect for the military than ANY democrat politician.

You self-delude yourself like this often?

This is purely anecdotal, so take it for what it is worth. I volunteer working with special operations units from the various services. I have never heard a positive comment made regarding President Obama. None. He was constantly ridiculed and the butt of many off-color comments. Trump garnered no such negative attention.

My daughter tells me that discussion of politics is strictly forbidden in her Army unit as everyone is still scared shitless of the Obama PC police that still infests the ranks. No one even jokes around for fear their comments will land their ass in hot water.

Odd....I heard the exact opposite from my friends in then and now.

I have ten years experience with these groups. I have yet to meet anyone associated with the military who admits they voted for Hillary.

Do you live in a military town? Do you have relatives in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and several in Air and Army National Guard units? Do most of your friends work for the military like mine? Is your church predominantly all retired veterans? Are you a member of the American Legion?

The answers to all of these questions for me is a big YES!

Miramar to the South and Camp Pendleton to the East. Yes....my wife, my father in law, many of my friends I go out with to eat are retired or former military.......I don't go to a church. I was a member of the Legion when we lived in the Bay Area....not here when I showed up with my DD214 and they handed me an Auxilary App.

So, you live in the People's Republic of Mexifornia, and have very little contact with the military compared to me.

I'd say you backed up assertion that you are clueless on this topic very well. Thank you for your service!

 

[bodecea]

Fallen soldier’s mother: ‘Trump did disrespect my son’

The mother of a soldier killed in an ambush in Africa said Wednesday that President Trump "did disrespect my son" with remarks in a condolence telephone call a day earlier.

Sgt. La David T. Johnson's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told The Post on Wednesday that she was present during the call from the White House on Tuesday to Johnson's widow, Myeshia Johnson. She stood by an account of the call from Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.) that Trump told Johnson's widow that her husband “must have known what he signed up for.”

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," Jones-Johnson said in an exchange with the Post.

Trump denied Wilson's account in a Twitter message Wednesday. He said he had "proof" that the exchange did not go as Wilson had said. He did not elaborate, but the claim again raised questions about whether the president tapes calls and conversations.

His widow cried that Trump didn't even remember his name. I guess he prefers the soldiers who aren't killed.

Except there is no “proof” offered by the mother or the Demoncrat politician.

The proof is in the corroboration. Why would anyone make this up?

cause the congresswoman is a fking demoloser who has an agenda, like russia russia. Just saying, your statement was truly stoooooooooooooooooooopid.

trump doesn't have an agenda?

 

[bodecea]

You self-delude yourself like this often?

This is purely anecdotal, so take it for what it is worth. I volunteer working with special operations units from the various services. I have never heard a positive comment made regarding President Obama. None. He was constantly ridiculed and the butt of many off-color comments. Trump garnered no such negative attention.

My daughter tells me that discussion of politics is strictly forbidden in her Army unit as everyone is still scared shitless of the Obama PC police that still infests the ranks. No one even jokes around for fear their comments will land their ass in hot water.

Odd....I heard the exact opposite from my friends in then and now.

I have ten years experience with these groups. I have yet to meet anyone associated with the military who admits they voted for Hillary.

Do you live in a military town? Do you have relatives in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and several in Air and Army National Guard units? Do most of your friends work for the military like mine? Is your church predominantly all retired veterans? Are you a member of the American Legion?

The answers to all of these questions for me is a big YES!

Miramar to the South and Camp Pendleton to the East. Yes....my wife, my father in law, many of my friends I go out with to eat are retired or former military.......I don't go to a church. I was a member of the Legion when we lived in the Bay Area....not here when I showed up with my DD214 and they handed me an Auxilary App.

So, you live in the People's Republic of Mexifornia, and have very little contact with the military compared to me.

I'd say you backed up assertion that you are clueless on this topic very well. Thank you for your service!

Surrounded by Marines "very little contact with the military"...... Yeah.....ok.

 

[bodecea]

Yeah. His opponents know that, whether there is actually any proof he said something or not, he sure as hell COULD have said it, and that's the corner he's chosen to paint himself into. That's the way it goes. For supposedly being so media-savvy, he sure knows how to walk into an uppercut.
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Well I think he said it because it sounds exactly like the shit that comes out of his fat ass. I don't think he meant any disrespect, or that he had any ill will towards the widow. JFK could talk off the cuff on stuff like this, and the thing was people might not like what he said, but he'd tell it like it was. (he was also a womanizer and drug dependent) Reagan was a very empathetic man, and expressed himself well. but he'd either have a staffer write him what to say, or he'd put aside everything else on his mind and ... concentrate for god's sake. (and he used fake homilies that verged on racism)

Well, he's in a league of his own on this stuff. Again, it wouldn't surprise me for a moment, but I don't have proof he said it.
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Without an exception every veteran posting on any board I was on and I was on many all said that what Trump said was proper. That it was not only an acknowledgement of every service member's bravery knowing that they could lose their lives by volunteering but then acknowledging the pain that comes despite that knowledge.

EVERY veteran? Really? Because I'm a 20 year vet, and I think that what Trump said was pretty disrespectful.

Yeah, everyone in the military knows that being killed is a possibility with serving, and on occasion, when things are going like crap, we tell each other that we knew what might happen when we signed up, but that is more like black humor, and doesn't belong on a condolence call.

What Trump should have said is that he was liked and respected in his command, that his service was appreciated and that he was a good soldier and will be sorely missed.

Not that he knew what he was getting into when he signed up.

Like I said, I understood what the possibilities were when I signed up, and I did it anyway because I wanted to travel. But if I had died on active duty, saying something like that to my family may have gotten someone punched.

You were a titless WAVE and your conduct on this forum denigrates veterans just about every time you touch your keyboard.

The greatest danger you ever faced was a papercut!

WAVE? You're just like those American Legion fossils that handed me an Auxilary App.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why would they lie?

The Congresswoman and the grieving family have plenty of reasons.

Why would the government lie about the the death of American soldiers?

Holy Christ...

Now you're just fucking with me, right?

What indication do you have that anyone is lying?

Paranoid much?

It's the government. It's like the old saying, "How do you know they are lying? Their lips are moving."

Again, why would they lie?

Why would Obama or Hillary lie in Benghazi? They never would have been held accountable no matter what. Sometimes you make a mistake and shit happens as a world leader. Clinton had Bosnia. Bush had Barbara.

I am sorry, but why do you think they never would be held accountable? Is it because everyone in that administration was so fucked up that we had grown to accept the fact that they would naturally screw up?

 

[Lilah]

No, the Congresscritter is the one who started this shit! Be precise in your accusations. Otherwise, you are disgraceful!

All she did was report what Trump told the widow on speakerphone.

Wilson said on national television this a.m. that she didn't hear the entire conversation. If the call was on speaker, why didn't she hear it?

 

[radical right]

My wife had bone spurs also. She could barely walk. Over time, they disappeared.

Now, you were saying?

Trump had no mobility problems through college, he only devoloped bone spurs when his college deferments ended, and was walking again as soon as he got his medical deferment.