Peterf
Active Member
If Israel was governed by Hindus who had colonized from India and was supported by the United States, then I would be doing the same thing. If Israel was governed by Roman Catholics who had colonized from Ireland and was supported by Irish-American Catholics and the United States then I would be doing the same thing.
The United States is my country, I am of Irish descent, and I belong to the Roman Catholic Church and when any of those bodies act with injustice, it affects me and I will say something. And the fact that I am a member of those bodies, what I say will have more of an impact.
The fact that Jews are involved, in my opinion, has very little to do with it other that, when Jewish people and other pro-Israelis use that as an excuse to defend Israel and cover up her wrongs. It provides a convemnient cover for those who actually are anti-Semites to the extent that anti=Semitism actually becomes less of a problem than those who fling the accusation about carelessly and frivolously.
I do not disregard Muslim violence at all. I just do not attribute it to their faith and instead attribute it to poverty and the exploitation of third world countries by first world countries. Of course, islam plays a part, but if they were Christians incunbered by similar burdens, the results would be the same and and Christianity would play that part.
Give people full bellies and hopeful hearts and they will return that gift with peace and love.
I note that you are of Irish descent and can but wonder if you support the IRA? Or is Hamas the only terrorist organisation that you adore?
Those who might be taken in by Dreolin's propaganda should reflect that the Christians murdered by Islam are often poorer than their killers. So his nauseating argument that poverty justifies torture and murder falls doubly flat.
And that has nothing to do with what I said. The exploitatuon of the resources of third world countries by first world countries, or countries that otherwise are poor, often have factions divided along factional lines in competition for resources.
I never justified torture or murder.
I do not adore any organizations. I prefer secular organizations like the PLO and the IRA to religiously based organizations like religious Zionists and HAMAS.
I do not regard either the IRA or HAMAS as "terrorist" organisations.
HAMAS was created and funded in large part bt Israel to marginalize the PLO.
Both the IRA and Hamas use extreme violence in an attempts to make their opponents afraid of them; they are therefore terrorist organisations by definition. That you do no regard them as such implies that you do, in fact, condone torture and murder.