Some Americans simply LACK perspective...

[nat4900]

The responses on this thread by right wingers help to show what happens when they get their "history lessons" from scholars such as Hannity and Beck.....Hopefully these morons don't breed much.

 

[bripat9643]

Questions of the "brilliant" right wingers......

Was ANYBODY living in that area before the European Jews were shipped there by the Brits?

Was the MAJOR mistake by those Arabs living in that area, not calling themselves a "nation"....just like Native Americans in this country?

There were already plenty of Jews living in the area, moron. They bought all the land where they resided from the locals.

Isreal hadn't been a nation since the 1st century B.C. It was always conquered territory until after WW II.

 

[bripat9643]

The responses on this thread by right wingers help to show what happens when they get their "history lessons" from scholars such as Hannity and Beck.....Hopefully these morons don't breed much.

Of course, you can't show that anything any right-winger has posted is wrong.

 

[SAYIT]

The Arabs rejected 181 and set about building squalid "refugee" camps in which to foster the desperation that would fuel their war - and that of Jew haters everywhere - against the Jews.

So, let me get this straight........The Arabs (notice that they're not called Palestinians by you even though they were living in a land called by virtually everyone, Palestine.)

But, according to you, these silly Arabs actually "set about building squalid camps instead of the nice "homeland" by European Jews....Well, that was mighty "dumb" of those Arabs, I agree.(LOL)

The region's (notice I didn't say "country's") Arabs referred to themselves as "Arabs" or Syrians (many of them considered the territory to be part of Syria).

The region's Jews were called "Palestinians" and yes ... rather than establish an Arab "Palestine" - a name they did not adopt until the 1960s - in 1947, the Arabs established squalid refugee camps.

Considering your OP is a rant against ignorance, I find yours to be, at best, ironic.

Whether the Romans could crush the Jews or not is irrelevant. The bottom line is that the place was populated by Jews during the period when you claim it was called "Palestine." Therefore, the true Palestinians are Jews, not Arabs.

So, according to the "brilliance" above, true Jews are Palestinians but chose to call their country Israel because there was a copyright on the name "Palestine" already?

The name Palestine was imposed by Rome 1900 years earlier to codify their dominance. Why would the soon-to-be Israelis want to call their new homeland Palestine?

Again, you lead with the monumental ignorance so common among hateful, loony leftists.

 

[bendog]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

It could be:

a. Some muslims are just fed up with their cultural inability to function in a world that is run on market economies. So, they blame their cultural failure on others. Not exactly unheard of. Look at some of the unemployable white trash calling for deportation of 11 million

b. It could be that every time Israel has offered a peace, the Pales have said they'll not accept a Jewish state.

c. We're hardly innocents, but Iran is a seriously dangerous nation, and the lack of value their govt puts on individual rights is as bad as the Soviets in the post-Stalin years.

 

[nat4900]

There were already plenty of Jews living in the area, moron. They bought all the land where they resided from the locals.

Only an IDIOT could make sense of the above (and you ARE an idiot, bibrat)........So, the Jews were already living there but they bought lands from the "locals" who were, ........what......Swedes, New Zealanders?, Chinese?

 

[nat4900]

If you really want to learn the history of that area.....look up the McMahon Agreement.....and the Balfour Declaration.

Both these "accords" show the calumny of the Brits, and the British crown being bought out by the Zionist Rothchilds.....all at the expense of the Palestinian Arabs who have every right to be distrustful of the West.

 

[nat4900]

It could be:

a. Some muslims are just fed up with their cultural inability to function in a world that is run on market economies. So, they blame their cultural failure on others. Not exactly unheard of. Look at some of the unemployable white trash calling for deportation of 11 million

b. It could be that every time Israel has offered a peace, the Pales have said they'll not accept a Jewish state.

c. We're hardly innocents, but Iran is a seriously dangerous nation, and the lack of value their govt puts on individual rights is as bad as the Soviets in the post-Stalin years.

Well, at least a more reasoned response.....Thank you.

 

[bripat9643]

There were already plenty of Jews living in the area, moron. They bought all the land where they resided from the locals.

Only an IDIOT could make sense of the above (and you ARE an idiot, bibrat)........So, the Jews were already living there but they bought lands from the "locals" who were, ........what......Swedes, New Zealanders?, Chinese?

There were Jews living in the are long before the British shipped the Holocaust survivors there, dumbass.

 

[bendog]

It could be:

a. Some muslims are just fed up with their cultural inability to function in a world that is run on market economies. So, they blame their cultural failure on others. Not exactly unheard of. Look at some of the unemployable white trash calling for deportation of 11 million

b. It could be that every time Israel has offered a peace, the Pales have said they'll not accept a Jewish state.

c. We're hardly innocents, but Iran is a seriously dangerous nation, and the lack of value their govt puts on individual rights is as bad as the Soviets in the post-Stalin years.

Well, at least a more reasoned response.....Thank you.

You're welcome, and it could also be:

a. And every time a muslim leader proposes altering societal practices to accommodate private market activity, western capital rapes an economy.

b. And Israel is no longer offering peace, because it took in large numbers of eastern Europeans who have a background in totalitarianism

c. And the Iran deal may engage Iran, and we have France, Germany, the UK and Italy to thank

 

[nat4900]

There were Jews living in the are long before the British shipped the Holocaust survivors there, dumbass.

Well, there were Jews in Hungary also....but it did not make Hungary an automatic, Israel.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Those poor, peaceful, innocent, oppressed islamists...

Lookunderthe nearest rockand theres a critically thinking progressive leaping to their defense.

Damn Americans ! Lol

 

[bripat9643]

There were Jews living in the are long before the British shipped the Holocaust survivors there, dumbass.

Well, there were Jews in Hungary also....but it did not make Hungary an automatic, Israel.

That's stupid, even for you.

 

[Programmer]

Wtf? Israel fought and won. Like dozens of other former states, Palestine doesn't really exist. Israel is taking the indian reservation route with everyone who cant come to grips with it.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

If only we understood them better....opened up a dialogue

Perhaps send them aid, accept thir refugees, accomodate their demands.... Lmfao

 

[auditor0007]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

Yes!
Some woman got raped. Did a guy just wake up one morning and decide he would rape someone. Or did the woman entice him by what she was wearing? Or did she lead him on? Or antagonize him in some way? Isnt she just as responsible for her own rape as the rapist himself?

Oh wait, when put that way it is socially unacceptable to blame the victim. Yet that is exactly what the OP does. There is no, none, excuse for terrorism and murder. Not at all.

That is not at all a reasonable comparison and you should know that. US involvement in many of these countries involved policies that benefited the US regardless as to the consequences to those countries. That doesn't necessarily excuse or condone any particular action by these people or countries against us but it must be taken into account as to the reasoning behind it.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

It was the waterboarding that caused all the violence, uprisings and revolts !

Lol

 

[bodecea]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

30 years ago the administration allowed ketchup to be classified as a vegetable, and traded arms for hostages. This isn't new.

And cut n' run from a ME country after allowing 250+ of its Marines to get blown to smithereens.

 

[bodecea]

liberals are complete idiots. every time you see a left-wing moron mention iran you know it's a given he's going tor ant about Mossadegh; and paint the Shah as the devil himself

Google the WHITE REVOLUTION; the Shah was FAR MORE MODERAT THE THE ISLAMO-FASCISTS AYATOLLAH REGIME THE IDIOT JIMMY CARTER THOUGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE PLANET WHEN HE BACKED THEM

The Shah and his regime may not have been devils, but they sure weren't saints either. Maybe if they had just made Khomeni disappear.............

 

[Correll]

Americans are dumb as dog shit, hence the state of the place...

It seems so. Even as recently as 30 years ago there would have been a bonecrushing uprising over what the current administration and its cadre of talking monkeys have done to it.

30 years ago the administration allowed ketchup to be classified as a vegetable, and traded arms for hostages. This isn't new.

And cut n' run from a ME country after allowing 250+ of its Marines to get blown to smithereens.

Who let the military degrade to a point where the guards were not allowed to have bullets for their guns, in a war zone?