Some of the reasons why Americans of all political backgrounds oppose funding and supporting Ukraine.

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

There were Americans opposed to US involvement in WW2 up to and beyond Pearl Harbor

Mac seven we were allies with the Russians in World War II.

 

[Toro]

 

[Toro]

 

[Toro]

It's funny to hear the alt-right ethno-nationalist anti-American losers pretend they were once on the side of Reagan.

 

[Sunsettommy]

This is after Trump undermined NATO, kissed Putin's ass...

Get real... Putin got to do what fucking liked when Trump was in office...

Biden is giving a masterclass in international diplomacy... He has Europe taking the lead on the war effort...
The reason Biden gets respect, Trump got disdain... Who the fuck has a bring your daughter to work day during a NATO meeting????

Now your lies are overflowing because Trump demanded that NATO nations increase their share of the budget into NATO which was being chronically underfunded.

The NATO Chief himself lauded Trump over it:

The HILL

Excerpt:

The secretary general of NATO on Sunday credited President Trump with encouraging other countries to spend more on defense, and downplayed critics’ concerns that the president’s rhetoric and actions have threatened to undermine the alliance.

“President Trump has been very clear. He is committed to NATO … but at the same time he has clearly stated that NATO allies need to invest more,” Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on “Fox News Sunday.”

{mosads}He noted that NATO members have agreed to increase their defense spending contributions across the board, which he argued has strengthened the alliance.

LINK

 

[Blackrook]

Russia invaded Ukraine. I'm not sure how it makes sense not to support Ukraine.

 

[Toro]

Now your lies are overflowing because Trump demanded that NATO nations increase their share of the budget into NATO which was being chronically underfunded.

The NATO Chief himself lauded Trump over it:

The HILL

Excerpt:

The secretary general of NATO on Sunday credited President Trump with encouraging other countries to spend more on defense, and downplayed critics’ concerns that the president’s rhetoric and actions have threatened to undermine the alliance.

“President Trump has been very clear. He is committed to NATO … but at the same time he has clearly stated that NATO allies need to invest more,” Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on “Fox News Sunday.”

{mosads}He noted that NATO members have agreed to increase their defense spending contributions across the board, which he argued has strengthened the alliance.

LINK

Trump was right about this.

 

[Mac-7]

Mac seven we were allies with the Russians in World War II.

Yeah, so?

 

[Sunsettommy]

This is after Trump undermined NATO, kissed Putin's ass...

Get real... Putin got to do what fucking liked when Trump was in office...

Biden is giving a masterclass in international diplomacy... He has Europe taking the lead on the war effort...
The reason Biden gets respect, Trump got disdain... Who the fuck has a bring your daughter to work day during a NATO meeting????

The Brookings Institute doesn't agree with you about Trumps sanctions:

On the record: The U.S. administration’s actions on Russia​

August 2, 2017:

Aug 2Legislation – President Trump signs Russia sanctions bill into law (CAATSA)

President Trump signed into law the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions act (CAATSA), enacting new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

LINK

Many more in the link.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Well you are say anti democracy and pro corrupt dictatorships...

That is not pro America... Why are you anti democracy?

How come America supported the overthrow of a democratically elected President of Ukraine in 2014?

The Guardian

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war​

April 30 2014
Seumas Milne

Excerpt:

The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

Putin invaded a peaceful country...

You are just a Russian troll..

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

It was in the middle of a CIVIL WAR you moron!

The government in 2014 was illegally overthrown with Western support it has been in a state of war ever since.

The National Interest

Ukraine's Bloody Civil War: No End in Sight​

March 31, 2015

LINK

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Your ignorance is appalling as this has been known for YEARS!

 

[Toro]

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

It was in the middle of a CIVIL WAR you moron!

The government in 2014 was illegally overthrown with Western support it has been in a state of war ever since.

The National Interest

Ukraine's Bloody Civil War: No End in Sight​

March 31, 2015

LINK

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Your ignorance is appalling as this has been known for YEARS!

It's not a civil war, you dumb low-IQ moron.

 

[Toro]

How come America supported the overthrow of a democratically elected President of Ukraine in 2014?

The Guardian

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war​

April 30 2014
Seumas Milne

Excerpt:

The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all

LINK

 

[Toro]

It's funny that so-called "conservatives" whore for Russia and hate freedom and western values.

 

[Sunsettommy]

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You are 0-2 in counterpoints which means you have nothing.

Try again.

 

[Sunsettommy]

It's funny that so-called "conservatives" whore for Russia and hate freedom and western values.

A typical response which is a lie since many here don't even express support for Russia at all.

Try to make an honest attempt to debate the material instead.

 

[Sunsettommy]

It's not a civil war, you dumb low-IQ moron.

Ukraine is still one nation that was divided in two groups within the same country that satisfies the definition of a Civil War.

Merrium-Webster:

"a war between opposing groups of citizens of the same country"

LINK

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You need to slow down.......

 

[Sunsettommy]

It's funny that so-called "conservatives" whore for Russia and hate freedom and western values.

It is funny to meet people like YOU who is vividly exposing your deep ignorance of the region and the history behind it.

How come you overlook the part where USA isn't trying to revive the peace treaty effort, while China has made an effort to end it with a plan which is clever because it makes Biden look bad even though China isn't a nation to trust on anything.

When will Biden ever get on with the peacemaking effort something FDR would have done from the beginning and never stop.

 

[Dadoalex]

Go ahead.....poke the bear.....what could go wrong?

Fucking dope.

pretty sure it's the "bear" who's doing the poking and getting slapped for its efforts.

Putin like so many of his apologists in the US wants to return to the 1950s. And because of this he's fighting the last war again. And just like last time, Russia is destroying itself in a war it can never win.

How does your dope smell after you're done fucking it?

 

[busybee01]

Where's the vote of congress for war, asshole?

The Congress has voted to support Ukraine by sending military aid.