harmonica
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It’s 5% of all cases require ventilators support. Not 5% of hospitalized patients.According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.
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In a coronavirus crisis, who deserves a ventilator?
When there are two patients and one ventilator, the one with the greatest survival chance should get the ventilator first.www.usatoday.com
SO explain this math...
595,953 total cases as of 3/27/20 at 8:27 PM..
So according to the above:
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization or 595,953 divided by 7 equals 85,136 hospitalized Covid-19 patients .
AND of the 85,136 hospitalized.... 5% require ventilators or 4,257 ventilators....hmmm....
Please some one explain because IF I use 5% of the 595,953 cases need ventilators... that is 29,798 ventilators world wide!
Something doesn't make sense here...
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Simple misunderstanding.
So 5% of all Coronavirus cases 615,519 (as of 3/28/20) would mean 30,775 ventilators are in USE now world-wide according to your misinterpretation.
Then where did Cuomo get his 30,000 ventilator requirements for how many cases... New York would have 615,519 cases alone?
Is that what you are saying? Again.. If New York will need 30,000 ventilators than that means New York would have 615,519 cases or With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019
that would mean 3% of New York would contract Covid-19 and 5% of the 615,519 or 30,000 ventilators.
See I'm just asking a logical question. If WHO says 5% of the hospitalized use ventilators and that 1 out of 7 cases are hospitalized... that would mean less than 5,000 ventilators in use NOW...again
according to the WHO. But YOU say 5% of the 615,519 require ventilators or about 30,000.... so does Gov. Cuomo think NY will have 615,519 cases when right now NY has 15,000 cases.
So tell me where the math is incorrect. New York has 15,000 cases today... to get to 615,000 cases that according to WHO require at most 30,000 ventilators... where did he gat that number?![]()
New York has 5% of Covid-19 cases worldwide as city becomes battlefront
State now has 15,000 cases – around half of US total – with residents of New York City facing further lockdown from Sunday eveningwww.theguardian.com
You’re looking at numbers as they exist now. Cuomo is looking at what could happen in the future. If you wait to get ventilators only when you need them, you’re too late.
I agree... then please explain this:
As of Friday morning 3/17/20 , health officials have confirmed at least:
- 44,635 total cases in New York State
- 519 deaths from the coronavirus in the state
- Over 25,398 cases in New York City
- 365 deaths in New York City
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Coronavirus in New York: Latest Updates
Mayor De Blasio is warning New Yorkers that they may have to “improvise” when it comes to their transportation.nymag.com
According to the World Health Organization,
1 in 7 cases require hospitalization
and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive.
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In a coronavirus crisis, who deserves a ventilator?
When there are two patients and one ventilator, the one with the greatest survival chance should get the ventilator first.www.usatoday.com
This means today in New York..with 44,635 cases 6,376 are hospitalized and 5% of hospitalized need ventilators or 400 ventilators are in use in New York.
Your math is incorrect as I already explained.
My MATH is NOT incorrect.
What maybe incorrect is the WHO estimate that 1 out of 7 cases require hospitalization. And of those hospitalized, 5% require ventilators.
That is pure and simple math then.
615,000 cases divided by 7 (i.e. 1 of 7 cases are hospitalized..right?) means 87,931 cases are hospitalized. So you think that ALL cases require ventilators...i.e. 87,931.
which is contrary to what the WHO states that 5% of the hospitalized require ventilators which would be 4,397 ventilators.
My math is NOT incorrect. The WHO assumptions maybe wrong.
How long do COVID-19 patients stay in hospital?
The UK’s Chief Medical Advisor Chris Whitty said yesterday in the government’s daily press conference the average patient spends eight days in hospital with COVID-19.
If a patient has serious complications and requires a ventilator, the stay is doubled to an average of 16 days.
The World Health Organisation says about 80 percent of people with COVID-19 recover without needing any specialist treatment.
Only about one in six becomes seriously ill “and develops difficulty breathing”.
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Coronavirus patients: How long do COVID-19 patients stay in hospital?
AS COVID-19 causes more and more people to be hospitalised, how long are sufferers having to stay in hospital for?www.express.co.uk
the percentage of people needing ventilators is very low"About 80% of people get a very mild illness and they recover uneventfully. That's important to realize," said Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency medicine physician with Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.
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