South Carolina Police Officer

[Valerie]

THIS unarmed guy was pulled over for a tail light out and was skittish over child support warrants...


The Supreme Court ruled that laws authorizing the police use of deadly force against unarmed and nonviolent felony suspects violated the Fourth Amendment’s guarantees against unreasonable seizure...

 

[2aguy]

Too bad the dead guy didn't.

in America officers do not get to play judge, jury and executioner... this officer was an idiot coward.




In this landmark 1985 case, Tennessee v. Garner (105 S. Ct. 1694), the U.S. Supreme Court reviewed the following facts of the case: While Garner (the fleeing juvenile) was crouched at the base of the fence, the officer called out “Police! Halt!” and took a few steps toward him. Garner then began to climb over the fence. Convinced that if Garner made it over the fence, he would elude capture, the officer shot him. The responding ambulance crew quickly transported Garner to a local hospital, where he died on the operating table.

The Supreme Court ruled that laws authorizing the police use of deadly force against unarmed and nonviolent felony suspects violated the Fourth Amendment’s guarantees against unreasonable seizure. The U.S. Supreme Court cited as unconstitutional the use of deadly force laws of numerous states. The thirty-one states and law enforcement agencies followed the legal guidance provided by the U.S. Supreme Court. Police departmental policies authorizing deadly force to apprehend nonviolent fleeing felony suspects changed significantly.

Before the Tennessee case, state law guided the use of deadly force by law enforcement officers. The Tennessee statute required police officers to warn a fleeing felon that they would shoot if they continued their flight. The officer could then use all necessary means to make an arrest. The main weakness of these state statutes centered on the fleeing felon sections. Many statutes stemmed from the old common law rule concerning fleeing felons. The law was antiquated and failed to meet contemporary standards.

Many law enforcement agencies developed guidelines that stated that “deadly force” may not be used unless (1) necessary to prevent escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the fleeing felon poses significant threat of death or serious physical injury to officers or others, and, (2) if practical and feasible, a warning should precede using deadly force. However, firing verbal warning shots is a controversial practice and can lead to unintended consequences. Many law enforcement agencies are concerned about injuries that may result from stray bullets.

Law enforcement agencies responded to these concerns by implementing new policies and protocols to address the use of deadly force. As a consequence, the use of deadly force was restricted to instances in which the offender had (1) the ability and capacity to kill the officer or another, (2) the ability and capacity to cause great bodily harm, and (3) the opportunity to cause great bodily harm to the officer or another. Additionally, the threat must be imminent, and the preclusion factor requires the exhaustion of other avenues of action. Deadly force against violent fleeing felons who do not meet these requirements are not within the protection of the law, and the emphasis is on using the least amount of force necessary to stop the aggressor’s violence.

Supreme Court Intervention: Nondeadly Force
Officers must be able to distinguish between nondeadly and deadly force.

DEADLY FORCE police

He wasn't an idiot or a coward......and before you judge...you should actually study the situation......

 

[Valerie]

He wasn't an idiot or a coward......and before you judge...you should actually study the situation......

he was a coward... he had options but he chose the (unlawful) cowards solution.

even his own colleagues knew it right away once they saw the video...

 

[Valerie]

deceitful too... how he dropped the tazer next to him...

 

[Valerie]

blam blam blam blam

blam blam blam blam

then handcuff the dead guy!

 

[bucs90]

I support cops as passionately as anyone.

But this time...cops was wrong.

You do NOT shoot a man in the back who is fleeing......unless he is an IMMEDIATE and certain threat to others.

A guy shooting up a school...sees a cop...turns to run? Hell yes. Hes likely to kill more kids if you dont stop.him immediately.

A guy shows up to.his ex wifes home after threatening to kill her...jumps out with a shotgun and runs towards her house and you're too far away to catch him....probably. Hes likely killing her if you dont do it.


But not this one. Suspect posed no immediate threat and no known threat. He was only fleeing to escape.

Bad shoot.

His shooting is one of the 0.1% of cops who kill someone. But unlike most...his is absolutely unjust.

 

[2aguy]

Not a coward....as his job he approaches cars with who knows what sort of person is in it....his job is not one for cowards............and again....study actual combat and hand to hand as well as gun fights.....you have no clue what you are saying because you don't know anything about it.....

He dropped the tazer because he knew he was screwed...again...he panicked......

 

[tinydancer]

Holy toledo! Stop with this shit of blaming this victim because his character doesn't warrant being killed in cold blood.

What are we ISIS? Behind in child support now makes you a low life scum that deserves to die by cop?

No way. How many men in America then need to be shot today because they are in arrears in child support?

What next? Overdue credit cards means you need to eat a bullet?

Mortgage payments not up to date? You need to die?

Let's get real here.

 

[Valerie]

he panicked because he was a coward...

 

[2aguy]

blam blam blam blam

blam blam blam blam

then handcuff the dead guy!

Yeah....you always handcuff the suspect....you don't know how much fight they have left....in one of my classes they discussed a story of a cop who shot a criminal with 7 rounds of .45......as the officer walked up to the guy who was on the ground, he still had enough energy in him to raise his gun and point it at the cop....

You cuff the guy on the ground even if you think he is dead......

 

[bucs90]

blam blam blam blam

blam blam blam blam

then handcuff the dead guy!

Thats procedure. By safety protocols. ..EMS will not come provide aid unless a suspect is cuffed. In SC...cops must handcuff suspects even Iif obviously dead to allow EMS to come aid them.

Its the fallout from 25 years ago in the North Hollywood shootout.

 

[Ravi]

Not a coward....as his job he approaches cars with who knows what sort of person is in it....his job is not one for cowards............and again....study actual combat and hand to hand as well as gun fights.....you have no clue what you are saying because you don't know anything about it.....

He dropped the tazer because he knew he was screwed...again...he panicked......

What gun fight do you speak of? The guy didn't have a gun.

 

[2aguy]

he panicked because he was a coward...

Yes.....and you have obviously been in numerous struggles with people resisting arrest....and you were right there when this happened........try getting a clue before you comment....

 

[Valerie]

You cuff the guy on the ground even if you think he is dead......

yeah and then you drop your tazer next to him to justify your unlawful cowardice...

 

[Ravi]

he panicked because he was a coward...

Yes.....and you have obviously been in numerous struggles with people resisting arrest....and you were right there when this happened........try getting a clue before you comment....

He was running away. Jesus quit making shit up.

 

[2aguy]

Not a coward....as his job he approaches cars with who knows what sort of person is in it....his job is not one for cowards............and again....study actual combat and hand to hand as well as gun fights.....you have no clue what you are saying because you don't know anything about it.....

He dropped the tazer because he knew he was screwed...again...he panicked......

What gun fight do you speak of? The guy didn't have a gun.

It was a physical confrontation.....the adrenaline is pumping and we have a gap in the video.....the guy who took the video says they were struggling on the ground, I saw a still image of the cop holding the guys wrist........once the adrenaline starts vision, hearing and time perception are completely screwed up.....

Combat of any nature, unarmed or armed, or unarmed leading to armed is a chemical dump.......and people can't always overcome it.....

 

[2aguy]

You cuff the guy on the ground even if you think he is dead......

yeah and then you drop your tazer next to him to justify your unlawful cowardice...

That is on the cop and he will pay for that .....he panicked......and of course you would have been so noble after that happened to you.....right......?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Holy toledo! Stop with this shit of blaming this victim because his character doesn't warrant being killed in cold blood.

What are we ISIS? Behind in child support now makes you a low life scum that deserves to die by cop?

No way. How many men in America then need to be shot today because they are in arrears in child support?

What next? Overdue credit cards means you need to eat a bullet?

Mortgage payments not up to date? You need to die?

Let's get real here.

Who are you and what did you do with the real tinydancer ?? You always blame the victim.

You might want to read this thread -

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[2aguy]

he panicked because he was a coward...

Yes.....and you have obviously been in numerous struggles with people resisting arrest....and you were right there when this happened........try getting a clue before you comment....

He was running away. Jesus quit making shit up.

Not making it up....read the research.....read people who have actually been in fights and in gun fights....then tell me I'm wrong...till then....you should think before you post....

 

[Ravi]

Not a coward....as his job he approaches cars with who knows what sort of person is in it....his job is not one for cowards............and again....study actual combat and hand to hand as well as gun fights.....you have no clue what you are saying because you don't know anything about it.....

He dropped the tazer because he knew he was screwed...again...he panicked......

What gun fight do you speak of? The guy didn't have a gun.

It was a physical confrontation.....the adrenaline is pumping and we have a gap in the video.....the guy who took the video says they were struggling on the ground, I saw a still image of the cop holding the guys wrist........once the adrenaline starts vision, hearing and time perception are completely screwed up.....

Combat of any nature, unarmed or armed, or unarmed leading to armed is a chemical dump.......and people can't always overcome it.....

Again, cops should be trained to act in a rational manner.