South Carolina schools may teach gun safety and training

No Planned Parenthood but the NRA is just fine in schools? Got it. Gun nuts, fucking nuts since guns have but one purpose, killing. Next up, Understanding Racism, by the KKK.


What the fuck is wrong with them South Carolinians?!?

Schools are supposed to be GUN FREE ZONES - the criminally insane should be able to enter those institutions without the fear that someone will be able to shoot back at them.


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No child needs to have anything to do with population control or slaughterhouses. See how great that works, for them?

Why not? Should we not teach them the reality of how the world works? Unless you are talking about small children, at which point you have crossed the line into the ridiculous where this threat is concerned.
They have plenty of time to learn how the world works without using something designed for just one purpose, killing things.

And they have years before they are going hunting. But they can hunt before they are adults. They can join in on a very long tradition, learn an alternative to the slaughterhouse source for meat, and help the environment at the same time.
Some "traditions" we no longer need, like children hunting for example.

How about we let their parents decide?
How about we don't.
 
Why not? Should we not teach them the reality of how the world works? Unless you are talking about small children, at which point you have crossed the line into the ridiculous where this threat is concerned.
They have plenty of time to learn how the world works without using something designed for just one purpose, killing things.

And they have years before they are going hunting. But they can hunt before they are adults. They can join in on a very long tradition, learn an alternative to the slaughterhouse source for meat, and help the environment at the same time.
Some "traditions" we no longer need, like children hunting for example.

How about we let their parents decide?
How about we don't.

Yeah well, since you have no answer for the loss of revenue for state conservation agencies, population controls on game animals, or eradication of invasive species, we'll keep the hunters going. And we will let the parents decide whether their child is able to hunt or not.
 
They have plenty of time to learn how the world works without using something designed for just one purpose, killing things.

And they have years before they are going hunting. But they can hunt before they are adults. They can join in on a very long tradition, learn an alternative to the slaughterhouse source for meat, and help the environment at the same time.
Some "traditions" we no longer need, like children hunting for example.

How about we let their parents decide?
How about we don't.

Yeah well, since you have no answer for the loss of revenue for state conservation agencies, population controls on game animals, or eradication of invasive species, we'll keep the hunters going. And we will let the parents decide whether their child is able to hunt or not.
I'm not worried about a few gun-nut kids getting dead in hunting accidents each year, there's simply no reason for it, as there is no reason that they need to be hunting or even around guns.

And unlike you, I have answers.
 
And they have years before they are going hunting. But they can hunt before they are adults. They can join in on a very long tradition, learn an alternative to the slaughterhouse source for meat, and help the environment at the same time.
Some "traditions" we no longer need, like children hunting for example.

How about we let their parents decide?
How about we don't.

Yeah well, since you have no answer for the loss of revenue for state conservation agencies, population controls on game animals, or eradication of invasive species, we'll keep the hunters going. And we will let the parents decide whether their child is able to hunt or not.
I'm not worried about a few gun-nut kids getting dead in hunting accidents each year, there's simply no reason for it, as there is no reason that they need to be hunting or even around guns.

And unlike you, I have answers.

Do you? How will states control deer and feral hog populations?

You claimed you had examples of accidental shooting deaths that would not have been prevented by following basic safety rules too. You said it would be easy to find them. But you didn't. You tried, but you didn't.

The reason for them to be hunting is because they choose to and their parents say ok. That is reason enough.
 
Some "traditions" we no longer need, like children hunting for example.

How about we let their parents decide?
How about we don't.

Yeah well, since you have no answer for the loss of revenue for state conservation agencies, population controls on game animals, or eradication of invasive species, we'll keep the hunters going. And we will let the parents decide whether their child is able to hunt or not.
I'm not worried about a few gun-nut kids getting dead in hunting accidents each year, there's simply no reason for it, as there is no reason that they need to be hunting or even around guns.

And unlike you, I have answers.

Do you? How will states control deer and feral hog populations?
Professional Adult Hunters. I never said adults could not hunt, I said no child needs to.
 
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"WARREN (WXYZ) - A 62-year-old building inspector for the city of Warren is recovering after he accidentally shot himself inside City Hall.

It happened Friday morning in a public bathroom stall as the inspector, who licensed to carry a concealed firearm, was returning his 45 caliber semi-automatic to its holster.

The bullet entered his hip and traveled down his leg. We're told two bullet fragments were lodged near his knee."
 
3 and 4
"On Sunday, an Aransas Pass man was killed after his friend accidentally fired a handgun while checking to see if it was loaded, according to CBS affiliate KZTV. Witnesses told the station that the deadly round shot through the man's hand and into his friend.

In June, a 13-year-old Fort Worth girl was fatally shot with an AK-47 while her stepbrother was clearing the chamber. According to the Star-Telegram, the brother had two “dummy” rounds in the weapon that had been placed above a loaded round. Police told the paper that the brother ejected the two dummy rounds but forgot about the loaded round."
 
So.....any more examples of accidental shooting deaths that you think wouldn't be prevented by following the basic safety rules?
1.
"An off-duty Honolulu police officer alleges he accidentally fired his gun while he was in the bathroom of a Target store on Saturday.

According to KHON, the officer took the Glock out of the holster, put it on the toilet paper dispenser, and accidentally shot it when he went to pick it up."

Why in the hell would he put his gun on the paper towel dispenser?

But as for safety rules, this is a basic one. Don't put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
 
5
"Kochems said he considered the charge, a misdemeanor punishable by up to five years in prison, because Loughrey's gun was loaded when he put it in his truck moments before the gun fired on Dec. 8, killing his son, Craig. The boy had been buckling himself into his safety seat in his father's truck when the handgun, which was placed on the truck's console, fired as Joseph Loughrey got into the front seat, police said.

Loughrey had removed the magazine from the pistol but didn't realize there was still a round in the chamber when he tried to sell the 9mm pistol at Twig's Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, about 60 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, police said. When the sale didn't go through, Loughrey brought the gun back to the truck, where it accidentally fired."
 
3 and 4
"On Sunday, an Aransas Pass man was killed after his friend accidentally fired a handgun while checking to see if it was loaded, according to CBS affiliate KZTV. Witnesses told the station that the deadly round shot through the man's hand and into his friend.

In June, a 13-year-old Fort Worth girl was fatally shot with an AK-47 while her stepbrother was clearing the chamber. According to the Star-Telegram, the brother had two “dummy” rounds in the weapon that had been placed above a loaded round. Police told the paper that the brother ejected the two dummy rounds but forgot about the loaded round."

Easy. Don't point the gun at anything you don't intend to kill or destroy.

And the second one you can add "Always treat the gun as if it were loaded".
 
So.....any more examples of accidental shooting deaths that you think wouldn't be prevented by following the basic safety rules?
1.
"An off-duty Honolulu police officer alleges he accidentally fired his gun while he was in the bathroom of a Target store on Saturday.

According to KHON, the officer took the Glock out of the holster, put it on the toilet paper dispenser, and accidentally shot it when he went to pick it up."

Why in the hell would he put his gun on the paper towel dispenser?

But as for safety rules, this is a basic one. Don't put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
There are several of these when people take a gun out or put a gun into the holster. The rules won't change those accidents.
 
5
"Kochems said he considered the charge, a misdemeanor punishable by up to five years in prison, because Loughrey's gun was loaded when he put it in his truck moments before the gun fired on Dec. 8, killing his son, Craig. The boy had been buckling himself into his safety seat in his father's truck when the handgun, which was placed on the truck's console, fired as Joseph Loughrey got into the front seat, police said.

Loughrey had removed the magazine from the pistol but didn't realize there was still a round in the chamber when he tried to sell the 9mm pistol at Twig's Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, about 60 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, police said. When the sale didn't go through, Loughrey brought the gun back to the truck, where it accidentally fired."

Once again "Don't point the gun at anything you don't intend to kill or destroy" and "Always treat the gun as if it were loaded".
 
So.....any more examples of accidental shooting deaths that you think wouldn't be prevented by following the basic safety rules?
1.
"An off-duty Honolulu police officer alleges he accidentally fired his gun while he was in the bathroom of a Target store on Saturday.

According to KHON, the officer took the Glock out of the holster, put it on the toilet paper dispenser, and accidentally shot it when he went to pick it up."

Why in the hell would he put his gun on the paper towel dispenser?

But as for safety rules, this is a basic one. Don't put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
There are several of these when people take a gun out or put a gun into the holster. The rules won't change those accidents.

They obviously didn't follow the basic safety rules. And following those rules certainly would change the outcome.
 
3 and 4
"On Sunday, an Aransas Pass man was killed after his friend accidentally fired a handgun while checking to see if it was loaded, according to CBS affiliate KZTV. Witnesses told the station that the deadly round shot through the man's hand and into his friend.

In June, a 13-year-old Fort Worth girl was fatally shot with an AK-47 while her stepbrother was clearing the chamber. According to the Star-Telegram, the brother had two “dummy” rounds in the weapon that had been placed above a loaded round. Police told the paper that the brother ejected the two dummy rounds but forgot about the loaded round."

Easy. Don't point the gun at anything you don't intend to kill or destroy.

And the second one you can add "Always treat the gun as if it were loaded".
Neither of them were aiming at anything, and one was checking to see it it was loaded while the other forgot. That happens with guns.
 
2.
"WARREN (WXYZ) - A 62-year-old building inspector for the city of Warren is recovering after he accidentally shot himself inside City Hall.

It happened Friday morning in a public bathroom stall as the inspector, who licensed to carry a concealed firearm, was returning his 45 caliber semi-automatic to its holster.

The bullet entered his hip and traveled down his leg. We're told two bullet fragments were lodged near his knee."

He had a round in the chamber and had the weapon cocked.
 
5
"Kochems said he considered the charge, a misdemeanor punishable by up to five years in prison, because Loughrey's gun was loaded when he put it in his truck moments before the gun fired on Dec. 8, killing his son, Craig. The boy had been buckling himself into his safety seat in his father's truck when the handgun, which was placed on the truck's console, fired as Joseph Loughrey got into the front seat, police said.

Loughrey had removed the magazine from the pistol but didn't realize there was still a round in the chamber when he tried to sell the 9mm pistol at Twig's Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, about 60 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, police said. When the sale didn't go through, Loughrey brought the gun back to the truck, where it accidentally fired."

Once again "Don't point the gun at anything you don't intend to kill or destroy" and "Always treat the gun as if it were loaded".
Again, he wasn't aiming at anything and didn't think it was loaded.
 
2.
"WARREN (WXYZ) - A 62-year-old building inspector for the city of Warren is recovering after he accidentally shot himself inside City Hall.

It happened Friday morning in a public bathroom stall as the inspector, who licensed to carry a concealed firearm, was returning his 45 caliber semi-automatic to its holster.

The bullet entered his hip and traveled down his leg. We're told two bullet fragments were lodged near his knee."

He had a round in the chamber and had the weapon cocked.
So, you're saying he shouldn't carry a loaded weapon?
 
3 and 4
"On Sunday, an Aransas Pass man was killed after his friend accidentally fired a handgun while checking to see if it was loaded, according to CBS affiliate KZTV. Witnesses told the station that the deadly round shot through the man's hand and into his friend.

In June, a 13-year-old Fort Worth girl was fatally shot with an AK-47 while her stepbrother was clearing the chamber. According to the Star-Telegram, the brother had two “dummy” rounds in the weapon that had been placed above a loaded round. Police told the paper that the brother ejected the two dummy rounds but forgot about the loaded round."

Easy. Don't point the gun at anything you don't intend to kill or destroy.

And the second one you can add "Always treat the gun as if it were loaded".
Neither of them were aiming at anything, and one was checking to see it it was loaded while the other forgot. That happens with guns.

When the bullet left the barrel it went in a straight line. So obviously they were pointing the gun at someone. The rule says nothing about aiming.

Forgetting that there is a live round in the gun is not a problem if you follow the safety rules and always assume the gun is loaded.
 

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