South Carolina schools may teach gun safety and training

[The Rabbi]

Guns are for killing things. The fact that we use them for fun and games doesn't change why they were invented. We do that with swords too but they weren't designed for spectator sports.

Sport can sometimes include killing things. Ever hear of hunting? Yes, that is considered a "sport" even though I'm sure that drives you bat shit crazy.

Yes it does, because it's not a sport. Sports like that are what the Romans used to watch while Christians covered in pitch were used as human torches. We should be well beyond that by now.

So we should be beyond killing things for food? Or is it only bad when you do the killing instead of paying someone to kill a caged and abused animal, and sending it to your store all nicely wrapped?

And population control of wild animals should be accomplished without killing them? How about the removal of invasive species that are destroying, not only farmer's crops, but the local environment as well? Should we be beyond that as well?

Your logic is laughable.

The number of people who actually need guns to do their job, especially when we aren't at war, could be counted on my hands and toes. And this high school class isn't about becoming a professional hunter or a soldier now is it? No, it's about the NRA turning out even more kids who like guns, period.

The class is about teaching high school kids, who chose this elective class, how to safely handle firearms.

Amazing that anyone could actually oppose this.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Guns are for killing things. The fact that we use them for fun and games doesn't change why they were invented. We do that with swords too but they weren't designed for spectator sports.

Sport can sometimes include killing things. Ever hear of hunting? Yes, that is considered a "sport" even though I'm sure that drives you bat shit crazy.

Yes it does, because it's not a sport. Sports like that are what the Romans used to watch while Christians covered in pitch were used as human torches. We should be well beyond that by now.

So we should be beyond killing things for food? Or is it only bad when you do the killing instead of paying someone to kill a caged and abused animal, and sending it to your store all nicely wrapped?

And population control of wild animals should be accomplished without killing them? How about the removal of invasive species that are destroying, not only farmer's crops, but the local environment as well? Should we be beyond that as well?

Your logic is laughable.

The number of people who actually need guns to do their job, especially when we aren't at war, could be counted on my hands and toes. And this high school class isn't about becoming a professional hunter or a soldier now is it? No, it's about the NRA turning out even more kids who like guns, period.

The class is about teaching high school kids, who chose this elective class, how to safely handle firearms.

There is no safe way, obviously, and no need for any child to understand the safer ways that do exist. They have no need to handle guns, very few people do.

 

[ChrisL]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

And their need to do this thing? Oh right, there isn't any, they just have turned what used to be for survival into fun and games. Shoot something then sit around the campfire and drink a few beers.

Aww, what's wrong? You don't like doing that? Well that's too bad isn't it? Too bad the world can't be exactly as you want it.

 

[WinterBorn]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

And the meat donated by hunting organizations have provided millions of meals worth of lean meat to soup kitchens, food banks and other charitable organizations.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

He's full of it. Lol! Most hunters LOVE the meat. That is a big part of the reason why they hunt. Many also donate their kills thought such charities like this.

Hunting for Charity - Food News -

If they are donating the meat away then they didn't need to shoot it in the first place. That's means it was for sport, not survival. The meat would have gone to waste otherwise eh? See how that works now?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

And their need to do this thing? Oh right, there isn't any, they just have turned what used to be for survival into fun and games. Shoot something then sit around the campfire and drink a few beers.

Aww, what's wrong? You don't like doing that? Well that's too bad isn't it? Too bad the world can't be exactly as you want it.

Yes, it's a shame actually. My world would be much better for all of you, but then again, in my world there would be no humans, not a one.

 

[WinterBorn]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

And their need to do this thing? Oh right, there isn't any, they just have turned what used to be for survival into fun and games. Shoot something then sit around the campfire and drink a few beers.

I didn't say the hunters need to do it. But their actions do fill a need for our society.

Freedom is not about whether we need to do something. But there is a need for what hunters do.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

And the meat donated by hunting organizations have provided millions of meals worth of lean meat to soup kitchens, food banks and other charitable organizations.

Meat that is donated didn't need to be shot. If you don't need it to feed your family, you don't need it.

 

[ChrisL]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

He's full of it. Lol! Most hunters LOVE the meat. That is a big part of the reason why they hunt. Many also donate their kills thought such charities like this.

Hunting for Charity - Food News -

If they are donating the meat away then they didn't need to shoot it in the first place. That's means it was for sport, not survival. The meat would have gone to waste otherwise eh? See how that works now?

So what? Some people like to hunt for sport. Without them, the deer overpopulation would be really bad in a lot of areas.

 

[ChrisL]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

And the meat donated by hunting organizations have provided millions of meals worth of lean meat to soup kitchens, food banks and other charitable organizations.

Meat that is donated didn't need to be shot. If you don't need it to feed your family, you don't need it.

That's not your decision to make. You don't decide for everyone else, only for yourself.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

And their need to do this thing? Oh right, there isn't any, they just have turned what used to be for survival into fun and games. Shoot something then sit around the campfire and drink a few beers.

I didn't say the hunters need to do it. But their actions do fill a need for our society.

Freedom is not about whether we need to do something. But there is a need for what hunters do.

There is a need, at times, for professional hunters, not the bozos drinking beer who don't even eat what they kill, they just enjoy killing things to mount on the wall.

 

[WinterBorn]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

He's full of it. Lol! Most hunters LOVE the meat. That is a big part of the reason why they hunt. Many also donate their kills thought such charities like this.

Hunting for Charity - Food News -

If they are donating the meat away then they didn't need to shoot it in the first place. That's means it was for sport, not survival. The meat would have gone to waste otherwise eh? See how that works now?

The hunter is virtually the only population control on many game animals. And it is the only control on some invasive species. There is a need to control the populations, and the hunters do this. See how that works?

And there is a need for the meat.

But let me know if you want to restrict all activities in our society to only those required for our survival.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

He's full of it. Lol! Most hunters LOVE the meat. That is a big part of the reason why they hunt. Many also donate their kills thought such charities like this.

Hunting for Charity - Food News -

If they are donating the meat away then they didn't need to shoot it in the first place. That's means it was for sport, not survival. The meat would have gone to waste otherwise eh? See how that works now?

So what? Some people like to hunt for sport. Without them, the deer overpopulation would be really bad in a lot of areas.

We have people who are available to fix such issues, and it ain't Bubba and his high school beer buddies.

 

[Conservative65]

It's pretty damn hard to get an Sexually Transmitted Disease without the Sexually part.

You can get type1 herpies from kissing. You can get crabs from infected bed sheets. My father in-law got AIDS from an infected patient he was transporting while an EMT (the patient had a psychotic episode, ripped out an IV from his arm, spraying blood across my father in-law's face).

And yeah, you can be killed by someone else with a gun, quite easily in fact. It allows even toddlers to kill, but then again, that's all a gun is for.

Guns are also for sport.

Guns are for killing things. The fact that we use them for fun and games doesn't change why they were invented. We do that with swords too but they weren't designed for spectator sports.

Sport can sometimes include killing things. Ever hear of hunting? Yes, that is considered a "sport" even though I'm sure that drives you bat shit crazy.

Yes it does, because it's not a sport. Sports like that are what the Romans used to watch while Christians covered in pitch were used as human torches. We should be well beyond that by now.

What? THAT is not hunting.

Oh good Lord, so you are just grasping at straws here then? What IS your point?

That example comes from army basic training.

Oh really? So basically you learned about this and to watch out for it in a class-type setting or a learning environment. Hmm. Interesting. I'll bet they also taught you that you should check your weapon for such things and always make sure it is clean as a whistle so that such accidents do not happen? Right?

I think this just adds to the point that educating people about guns is a GOOD thing.

As long as the education is see a gun don't touch it run, I'm all for it. That should take 20 minutes or so.

So as long as they do it your way, it's OK?

Yep. There's not a reason in the world why a child need ever handle a gun. There is nothing they need to kill.

The only kids for which you can make that determination is yours.

 

[ChrisL]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

And their need to do this thing? Oh right, there isn't any, they just have turned what used to be for survival into fun and games. Shoot something then sit around the campfire and drink a few beers.

I didn't say the hunters need to do it. But their actions do fill a need for our society.

Freedom is not about whether we need to do something. But there is a need for what hunters do.

There is a need, at times, for professional hunters, not the bozos drinking beer who don't even eat what they kill, they just enjoy killing things to mount on the wall.

Again, that's really not your business. If you don't like hunting and you don't like guns, then stay away from them, but you have no business telling anyone else what to do based upon your own personal opinions. A lot of other people were raised differently than you, some were raised hunting and stuff, and they feel differently than you. What makes you and your opinions any more valid than their feelings and opinions? Nothing, that's what.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

He's full of it. Lol! Most hunters LOVE the meat. That is a big part of the reason why they hunt. Many also donate their kills thought such charities like this.

Hunting for Charity - Food News -

If they are donating the meat away then they didn't need to shoot it in the first place. That's means it was for sport, not survival. The meat would have gone to waste otherwise eh? See how that works now?

The hunter is virtually the only population control on many game animals. And it is the only control on some invasive species. There is a need to control the populations, and the hunters do this. See how that works?

And there is a need for the meat.

But let me know if you want to restrict all activities in our society to only those required for our survival.

When what is needed for said fun and games is a deadly weapon, you bet your ass I do. I want as few guns out there as possible, they kill a lot things that need not be killed.

 

[WinterBorn]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

And the meat donated by hunting organizations have provided millions of meals worth of lean meat to soup kitchens, food banks and other charitable organizations.

Meat that is donated didn't need to be shot. If you don't need it to feed your family, you don't need it.

So we should let the animals overpopulate and destroy the habitat, thereby dooming themselves and other species to a slow death from starvation?? Yes, there IS a need.

 

[ChrisL]

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

He's full of it. Lol! Most hunters LOVE the meat. That is a big part of the reason why they hunt. Many also donate their kills thought such charities like this.

Hunting for Charity - Food News -

If they are donating the meat away then they didn't need to shoot it in the first place. That's means it was for sport, not survival. The meat would have gone to waste otherwise eh? See how that works now?

The hunter is virtually the only population control on many game animals. And it is the only control on some invasive species. There is a need to control the populations, and the hunters do this. See how that works?

And there is a need for the meat.

But let me know if you want to restrict all activities in our society to only those required for our survival.

When what is needed for said fun and gamss a deadly weapon, you bet your ass I do. I want as few guns out there as possible, they kill a lot things that need not be killed.

Well again, that's not your decision to make for anyone else. You should probably mind your business and worry about yourself since you seem to have some issues with irrational fear.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

Hunters that leave the meat in the field are rare. Every hunter I know eats the meat or gives it to someone.

And their need to do this thing? Oh right, there isn't any, they just have turned what used to be for survival into fun and games. Shoot something then sit around the campfire and drink a few beers.

I didn't say the hunters need to do it. But their actions do fill a need for our society.

Freedom is not about whether we need to do something. But there is a need for what hunters do.

There is a need, at times, for professional hunters, not the bozos drinking beer who don't even eat what they kill, they just enjoy killing things to mount on the wall.

Again, that's really not your business. If you don't like hunting and you don't like guns, then stay away from them, but you have no business telling anyone else what to do based upon your own personal opinions. A lot of other people were raised differently than you, some were raised hunting and stuff, and they feel differently than you. What makes you and your opinions any more valid than their feelings and opinions? Nothing, that's what.

Because I'm rational about guns and they are not. You lost the hunting argument when you said hunters donate the meat, which means they didn't need it so the gun wasn't necessary.

 

[ChrisL]

Hunting also allows someone to provide steroid and antibiotic free, lean meat for their family, friends and even food banks and other charitable organizations.

Very few people hunt for meat, and no one has to. What a clean hamburger, raises a cow, I'm not going to stop you.

And the meat donated by hunting organizations have provided millions of meals worth of lean meat to soup kitchens, food banks and other charitable organizations.

Meat that is donated didn't need to be shot. If you don't need it to feed your family, you don't need it.

So we should let the animals overpopulate and destroy the habitat, thereby dooming themselves and other species to a slow death from starvation?? Yes, there IS a need.

Oh come on, he knows all of this. He must. He is just trying to make sense of his nonsense ideology. It should be clear to him that it is nonsense by now. If not, then he really must be just dense or something.