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Very interesting segment and it certainly paints a different picture of Mr. Barton than TDM and her blog wanted to portray.
Immie
Perry picked this guy to work with.
And Obama picked Dohrn, Ayers, and Wright to work with, and you told us vociferously that that meant NOTHING about Obama, and how DARE we try to blacken him by association.
I think what people are trying so hard to tell you is that you're a hypocrite and a joke who's "outrage" has as little meaning to us as every other idiotic, partisan piece of bullshit you utter.
Personally, I'm GLAD Perry chose to work with someone you hate so much. I hope it's a funny stroke.
"[The United States] government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to undo Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie."
Not true?
It is ALL based in historical fact.
MLK was a hero.
An Absolute American Hero.
You can not love this country and our constitution and not think so.
Im glad he is teaching black history.
Why is it he then disses MLK and his contributions?
I don't know, I didn't watch it. Perhaps you can find a link to the program. I'm mean you have already condemned the man, maybe you should actually back up your accusations?
Immie
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um1uxsKG1_0]Founders Friday The Black founders 1 - YouTube[/ame]
This episode was always pretty good. The man TM is libeling is helping Glenn teach about the Black Founders. This is only pt 1 btw
Very interesting segment and it certainly paints a different picture of Mr. Barton than TDM and her blog wanted to portray.
Immie
These are the guys who would be helping to establish policy in a Perry administration.
I thought you said he said there was "a separation of church and state in our Constitution". So why are you citing THIS, which says nothing of the sort?
Perhaps you should buy a dictionary and get someone literate to read it to you.
Constitutional Myth #4: The Constitution Doesn't Separate Church and State
Because the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution, the argument runs, the document provides for merger of the two.
It's bosh: ahistorical, untextual, illogical.
Patriots like Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and James Madison were profoundly skeptical about the claims of what they called "revealed religion." As children of the 18th-century Enlightenment, they stressed reason and scientific observation as a means of discovering the nature of "Providence," the power that had created the world. Jefferson, for example, took a pair of scissors to the Christian New Testament and cut out every passage that suggested a divine origin and mission for Jesus. In their long correspondence, Jefferson and John Adams swapped frequent witticisms about the presumption of the clergy. ("Every Species of these Christians would persecute Deists," Adams wrote on June 25, 1813, "as soon as either Sect would persecute another, if it had unchecked and unbalanced power. Nay, the Deists would persecute Christians, and Atheists would persecute Deists, with as unrelenting Cruelty, as any Christians would persecute them or one another. Know thyself, Human Nature!") As president, Adams signed (and the U.S. Senate approved) the 1797 Treaty with Tripoli, which reassured that Muslim nation that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
Constitutional Myth #4: The Constitution Doesn't Separate Church and State - Garrett Epps - National - The Atlantic
Im glad he is teaching black history.
Why is it he then disses MLK and his contributions?
Perry picked this guy to work with.
And Obama picked Dohrn, Ayers, and Wright to work with, and you told us vociferously that that meant NOTHING about Obama, and how DARE we try to blacken him by association.
I think what people are trying so hard to tell you is that you're a hypocrite and a joke who's "outrage" has as little meaning to us as every other idiotic, partisan piece of bullshit you utter.
Personally, I'm GLAD Perry chose to work with someone you hate so much. I hope it's a funny stroke.
Im glad he is teaching black history.
Why is it he then disses MLK and his contributions?
So I left for a while, expecting TM to finally prove the stations that were to be closed were in heavily Democratic districts. Imagine my surpriseto see that she hasn't. So I said to myself, "Self, since she won't do it, maybe you should look some of them up, to see if she is right". Here is what I found...
Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin (WI 53538) profile: population, maps, real estate, averages, homes, statistics, relocation, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, moving, houses, news, sex offenders
Fort Atkinson, Jefferson County
2004 - Kerry 43%, Bush 56%
2008 - Obama 50% - McCain 49%
Luck, Wisconsin (WI 54853) profile: population, maps, real estate, averages, homes, statistics, relocation, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, moving, houses, news, sex offenders
Luck, Polk County
2004 - Kerry 48% - Bush 52%
2008 - Obama 49% - McCain 50%
New Richmond, Wisconsin (WI 54017) profile: population, maps, real estate, averages, homes, statistics, relocation, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, moving, houses, news, sex offenders
New Richmond, St Croix county
2004 - Kerry 45% - Bush 54%
2008 - Obama 48% - McCain 52%
Abbotsford, Wisconsin (WI 54405) profile: population, maps, real estate, averages, homes, statistics, relocation, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, moving, houses, news, sex offenders
Abbotsford, Clark County
2004 - Kerry 46% - Bush 53%
2008 - Obama 53% - McCain 46%
Westfield, Wisconsin (WI 53964) profile: population, maps, real estate, averages, homes, statistics, relocation, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, moving, houses, news, sex offenders
Westfield, Marquette County
2004 - Kerry 45% - Bush 54%
2008 - Obama 52% - McCain 47%
All links courtesy of city-data. You have to scroll down to see the election charts.
Funny, I don't see these as heavily Democratic. In fact, they seem more heavily Republican to me.
I guess TM is wrong again, like that is something new.
Ok... so... Obama SHOULD NOT be held responsible for anything Jeremia Wright said (as he watched from the pews for 20 years)...
but Perry SHOULD be held responsible for something that David Barton said (as part of a group Perry is not affiliated with), because they went to the same retreat.
Got it.
Memory lane...Why Martin Luther King Was a Republican
It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism. It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy​, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
More of Frances Rice's article. Ms. Rice chaired the National Black Republican Association (NBRA) in 2006.
Memory lane...Why Martin Luther King Was a Republican
It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism. It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy​, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
More of Frances Rice's article. Ms. Rice chaired the National Black Republican Association (NBRA) in 2006.
It is insinuation to claim that someone said Dr. King deserves no credit for the Civil Rights movement and not back it up with quotes from the individual and then to further claim that because a candidate is associated with said individual that the candidate also believes this without backing up the statement.
This article was nothing but a smear campaign and a piss poor one at that.
Immie
Barton makes up his own Christian based history. He has said everything in the Op and more
David Barton
I saw your link in the previous post.
Let me ask who is doing the hating in that article, "HateWatch" or David Barton or both?
I don't know much at all about Barton and I really don't care one way or the other. I won't be voting for Perry. In fact, I would vote for Obama before I vote for Perry although, I'm not voting for any party once again. /sigh It would be so nice to have a candidate that might win an election that actually cared about the people of this country.
Immie
Memory lane...Why Martin Luther King Was a Republican
It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism. It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy​, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
More of Frances Rice's article. Ms. Rice chaired the National Black Republican Association (NBRA) in 2006.
Good job, finally someone who knows their history, yet somehow black people buy into all that democrat talk and never quite get off the democrat plantation. A little more history for your enjoyment:
Riot of 1866
Radical Republicans in Louisiana, both black and white, reacted to the passage of the Black Codes and the legislature's refusal to enfranchise black men by recalling delegates who had written the Constitution of 1864. Twenty-five white delegates, along with some two hundred supporters, met for their first day of deliberations on July 30, 1866, in New Orleans at the Mechanics' Institute, then used as the statehouse.
On that same afternoon a group of white citizens, aided by the New Orleans police and firemen, attacked the delegates and their supporters. These white assailants, many of them Confederate veterans, opposed the convention's goals and were enraged at the prospects of the new Reconstruction order.
Federal troops were called in to stop the violence but by the time they arrived the mayhem had run its course. Official reports from the massacre, one of the bloodiest riots of the Reconstruction era in the United States, listed 37 persons (34 black and 3 white Radicals) killed and 146 wounded. Contemporary witnesses believed the numbers to be much higher.
Notice it was those radical REPUBLICANS who fought for the black vote, not the democrats.
And yet more PROOF that it was the Republicans who supported civil rights not the democrats and here is the list of them, note that the great majority who were proponents of segregation are DEMOCRATS. Here it is truth matters you asked for the truth - you got it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...the_American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1955–1968)
Memory lane...Why Martin Luther King Was a Republican
It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism. It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.
During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy​, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.
More of Frances Rice's article. Ms. Rice chaired the National Black Republican Association (NBRA) in 2006.
Good job, finally someone who knows their history, yet somehow black people buy into all that democrat talk and never quite get off the democrat plantation. A little more history for your enjoyment:
Riot of 1866
Radical Republicans in Louisiana, both black and white, reacted to the passage of the Black Codes and the legislature's refusal to enfranchise black men by recalling delegates who had written the Constitution of 1864. Twenty-five white delegates, along with some two hundred supporters, met for their first day of deliberations on July 30, 1866, in New Orleans at the Mechanics' Institute, then used as the statehouse.
On that same afternoon a group of white citizens, aided by the New Orleans police and firemen, attacked the delegates and their supporters. These white assailants, many of them Confederate veterans, opposed the convention's goals and were enraged at the prospects of the new Reconstruction order.
Federal troops were called in to stop the violence but by the time they arrived the mayhem had run its course. Official reports from the massacre, one of the bloodiest riots of the Reconstruction era in the United States, listed 37 persons (34 black and 3 white Radicals) killed and 146 wounded. Contemporary witnesses believed the numbers to be much higher.
Notice it was those radical REPUBLICANS who fought for the black vote, not the democrats.
And yet more PROOF that it was the Republicans who supported civil rights not the democrats and here is the list of them, note that the great majority who were proponents of segregation are DEMOCRATS. Here it is truth matters you asked for the truth - you got it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...the_American_Civil_Rights_Movement_(1955–1968)
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This is a list of segregationists during the American Civil Rights Movement (1955-1968). Many public figures, particularly in the South, defended compulsory racial segregation as an institution during the Civil Rights Movement, and many others did not condemn it. This list comprises those people who publicly supported segregation at the time, although many later modified or recanted their position as public sentiment shifted (and the number of African American voters in their areas increased).
Dale Alford, United States Represenatative from Arkansas (Democrt)
Clarence C. Aycock, Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
Ross Barnett, Governor of Mississippi (Democrat).
Bill Beeny
Albert Boutwell, Lieutenant Governor of Alabama (Democrat).
Bryant Bowles
Parey Branton
Overton Brooks
C. Farris Bryant, Governor of Florida (Democrat).
Harry F. Byrd, Governor of Virginia (Democrat).
Robert Byrd, United States Senator, West Virginia (Democrat).
Howard "Bo" Callaway, United States Representative, Georgia (Republican).
Francis Cherry, Governor of Arkansas (Democrat).
Kent Courtney
Jimmie Davis, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
Wickliffe Draper
James Eastland, United States Senator, Mississippi (Democrat).
Allen J. Ellender, United States Senator, Louisiana (Democrat).
Orval Faubus, Governor of Arkansas (Democrat).
Murphy J. Foster, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
William Fulbright, United States Senator, Arkansas (Democrat).
John Sidney Garrett, State Representative, Louisiana (Democrat).
Jack P.F. Gremillion, Attorney General of Louisiana (Democrat).
Jesse Helms, United States Senator, North Carolina (Democrat 1942-1970, Republican 1970-2008).
Lister Hill, United States Senator, Alabama (Democrat).
Fritz Hollings, United States Governor and Senator, South Carolina (Dixiecrat)
Orville L. Hubbard, Mayor, Dearborn, Michigan.
Shelby M. Jackson, Superintendent of Public Education, Louisiana (Democrat).
James D. Johnson
Paul B. Johnson, Jr., Governor of Mississippi (Democrat).
Bennett Johnston, United States Senator, Louisiana (Democrat).
Bob Jones, Sr., Evangelist.
B. Everett Jordan, United States Senator, North Carolina (Democrat).
Robert F. Kennon, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
James J. Kilpatrick, Columnist.
Russell B. Long, United States Senator, Louisiana (Democrat).
Speedy O. Long, United States Representative, Louisiana (Democrat).
Charlton Lyons, State Chairman, Louisiana Republican Party.
Lester Maddox, Governor of Georgia (Democrat, American Independent).
James D. Martin, United States Representative, Alabama (Republican).
John McClellan, United States Senator, Arkansas (Democrat).
John McKeithen, Governor of Louisiana (Democrat).
Harold Montgomery (Democrat)
Danny Roy Moore (Democrat)
deLesseps Story Morrison (Democrat)
John H. Overton (Democrat)
Otto Passman (Democrat)
Dave L. Pearce, Louisiana Agricultural Commissioner (Democrat)
Leander Perez (Democrat)
William M. Rainach (Democrat)
John Rarick (Democrat, Independent, American Independent)
A. Willis Robertson (Democrat)
Richard B. Russell (Democrat)
Victor Schiro (Democrat)
George W. Shannon, journalist
Gerald L.K. Smith (Demorat)
Howard W. Smith, United States Representative from Virginia (Democrat).
John Sparkman (Democrat)
John C. Stennis, United States Senator from Mississippi (Democrat).
Ford E. Stinson
J. B. Stoner
A. Roswell Thompson (Democrat)
Strom Thurmond (Democrat, States' Rights Democrat, Republican)
Ned Touchstone (Democrat)
Joe Waggonner (Democrat)
George C. Wallace (Democrat, American Independent)
Albert Watson (Democrat, Republican)
John Bell Williams (Democrat)
Edwin E. Willis (Democrat)
Fielding L. Wright (Democrat)
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