Standing up to the left's denial if reality re: transgender

[thereisnospoon]

When going to gay bars women go to the bathroom with drag queens all the time, I sure didn't care. When in public I could careless too. Men would probably have more of a problem with transgender male or drag queen in their bathroom anyways.

Hey rocket scientist. Nobody cares if you lived in the world of seedy bars and other places where deviants gather.
These are not consenting adults. They are KIDS...Get it?

 

[thereisnospoon]

And many conservatives suffer from paranoia.

What paranoia? Where liberals run the show, they pass laws where if I owned a business and tried to remove someone with a penis from the women's bathroom by force, I will be in violation of those laws and probably guilty of a "hate crime".

PENIS = MALE

Only a liberal could be so mentally ill that they could think a woman can have a penis.

And only someone so hateful and ignorant would believe gender is determined by anatomy alone.

Holy shit...I suppose you believe that regardless of biology a person should have the right to name themselves what they wish and then have the right tofoist that belief on everyone else. That with no regard to the comfort or sensibility of another or a group...
In other words, if one is a weirdo, they have the exclusive right to make everyone else feel uncomfortable?..
Look pal, in normal society, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the individual.
We cannot function as a society if we have 320 million people( is it ok to use that term, or are we going to start allowing people to classify themselves as "meat popsicles) each wanting to be their own species of one.

 

[thereisnospoon]

When going to gay bars women go to the bathroom with drag queens all the time, I sure didn't care. When in public I could careless too. Men would probably have more of a problem with transgender male or drag queen in their bathroom anyways.

JESUS H CHRIST. THEY CHOSE TO GO TO A GAY BAR. THEY CHOSE TO GO TO A GAY BAR THAT HAS DRAG QUEENS. THEY ARE ADULTS, NOT CHILDREN.

Kids don't have a choice in school. They are FORCED to go, and given they have to use the bathroom there, they are now FORCED into using the bathroom with someone of the opposite sex thanks to liberal denial of reality.

Yes, ‘liberals’ are the source of all evil.

Why not advocate for Federal legislation criminalizing liberalism, it would be the conservative thing to do.

Cry me a fucking river.

 

[Luissa]

This thread is about bathrooms at schools, why do you keep talking about adults?

Did you ask the right wingers that question?
And you should never call out someone for derailing a thread.

Are they insisting this is about the right of adults to make their own choices? Didn't think so.

Are you half disabled?

 

[Luissa]

When going to gay bars women go to the bathroom with drag queens all the time, I sure didn't care. When in public I could careless too. Men would probably have more of a problem with transgender male or drag queen in their bathroom anyways.

Hey rocket scientist. Nobody cares if you lived in the world of seedy bars and other places where deviants gather.
These are not consenting adults. They are KIDS...Get it?

I do love retards like you and QW who can't follow threads and posts.
And the fact you call them deviants says a lot.
Right wingers have proven to be quite the morons in this thread. The only non fuck up I think was Si Modo.

 

[jtpr312]

You know, I don't know why this whole bathroom thing is even an issue, considering that these children are in the bathroom with gay children every day...both boys and girls are using the same restroom as their gay and lesbian classmates are...why is a transgendered child any different from that? I don't hear the all American macho male crying about that?
Should bathrooms be built exclusively for gay/transgendered boys and girls???
Which would be quite expensive BTW. YOUR tax dollars will go to that...so, lmao...you would actually be supporting them. And by 'YOU' I mean all the men on this thread getting their boxers in a bunch over a frickin' CHILD.

You, lacking any decency or morals like 99.9% of the liberal scum in this nation, may not have a problem with your grade school girl being exposed to boy's penises, and the perversion associated with boys who pretend to be girls, and vice versa, but decent people would like to protect their kids from that sort of thing for as long as possible.

 

[jtpr312]

The left's lie about woman dying from abortions prior to Roe vs Wade.

One of the most common arguments abortion advocates make in defense of legal abortion is that making abortion illegal will cause women to go to the "back alleys" and obtain unsafe abortions. They cite how thousands of women died as a result of unsafe abortions before abortion was legalized through the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision.

We already know legal abortions are not safe - they can and do cause women to lose their lives and harm women physically and emotionally. So let's address some other issues.

Dr. Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of the National Abortion Rights Action League, admits his group lied about the number of women who died from illegal abortions when testifying before the Supreme Court in 1972. "We spoke of 5,000 - 10,000 deaths a year.... I confess that I knew the figures were totally false ... it was a useful figure, widely accepted, so why go out of our way to correct it with honest statistics?"

That claim of thousands of maternal deaths due to illegal abortion doesn't measure up when compared with other statistics. About 50,000 women of child-bearing age die each year -- from all causes combined. To suggest that 10,000 of these deaths were from illegal abortion would make that the cause of one out of every five deaths, or twenty percent. This would have made illegal abortion the leading cause of death among women in that age group.

What, then, did cause abortion-related deaths due to illegal abortions? According to data from the National Center for Health Statistics, the legalization of abortion was not responsible for reducing abortion-related deaths. This discovery of antibiotics in the 1940's did that by providing effective treatment for infections.

The National Center for Heath Statistics reveals that before 1941, there were over 1,400 abortion-related deaths. Yet after Penicillin became available to control infections, the number of deaths was reduced in the 1950's to approximately 250 per year. By 1966, with abortion still illegal in all states, the number of deaths had dropped steadily to 120. The reason? New and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population.

Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicaps or deformities, and when the pregnancy jeopardized the life of the mother (all of which constitute only 5% of the abortion cases today). There were two notable exceptions - California in 1967 and New York in 1970 legalized abortion on demand.

Legalizing abortion should have eliminated some deaths related to illegal abortions. That is not the case. In the years from 1963-1969, there were an average of approximately 55 deaths per year due to illegal abortions. In 1970, after this initial wave of laws legalizing abortions, there were 109. Deaths from illegal abortions increased.

By the year before the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision allowing legal abortion on demand in all fifty states, the death rate for illegal abortions had fallen to 24 in 1972 (with 25 additional deaths as a result of legal abortions). Now abortion was legal in all fifty states and back alley abortions eliminated with their alleged total of maternal deaths. In 1973 there should have been a sharp drop in abortion-related deaths if abortion advocates were right that legalizing abortion would make abortion safe.

Yet abortion-related deaths increased again with 25 deaths resulting from legal abortion in 1973, 26 in 1974 and 29 in 1975.

Some have claimed that the number of illegal abortion-related deaths were not reported accurately or underreported. Yet, when a woman was seriously injured by an abortion, she went to another doctor for care. The abortion practitioner was rarely involved at that point. The new doctor in many cases had to attempt to save the mother's life. In cases of maternal death, this new doctor was required to report, and falsification of the death certificate was a felony. Therefore, prior to legalization of abortion, it's safe to say deaths from illegal abortions were rarely covered up.

Yet, even if the case can be made that deaths resulting from illegal abortions were underreported, it is equally safe to say that deaths resulting from legal abortions are underreported. In Maryland in 1991, there were four women who died from legal abortions that year. None of the four were reported to the Federal Centers for Disease Control for its statistics. Whereas prior to the legalization of abortion a second doctor, with little or no reason to cover up a death for which he or she was not responsible, was involved in an attempt to save the mother's life; with legalized abortion the abortion practitioner is usually the one attempting to save the mother's life when the abortion threatens her life.

Other specific instances help us see how reporting for the number of deaths related to illegal abortions may be low: In 1977 an Ohio doctor noted that while the official statistics showed no abortion-related deaths in Ohio that year, he personally knew of two. If one doctor knew of two cases, how many were there really?

Abortion was legalized in California in 1967. According to an article in the Los Angeles Times in 1972, official records showed four legal abortion-related deaths in the entire country from 1967 to 1972. Yet a reporter for that paper uncovered three deaths only in Los Angeles in just one month in 1972.

A reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times uncovered 12 legal abortion-related deaths in that city in 1978. The government statistics show only 16 deaths for the entire country in that year.

Another important point is that many of the abortion practitioners performing abortions after Roe v. Wade were the same people performing illegal abortions. In the July 1960 edition of the American Journal of Public Health, an article by Dr. Mary Calderon, then medical director of Planned Parenthood, which stated:

"90% of illegal abortions are being done by physicians. Call them what you will, abortionists, or anything else, they are still physicians, trained as such; ... They must do a pretty good job if the death rate is as low as it is... Abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal, is in the main no longer dangerous, because it is being done well by physicians."

Here is a candid admission that not only are illegal abortions not being done by quack doctors but that the death rate from illegal abortions was "low." This flies in the face of claims of several thousand women losing their lives to illegal abortions and the claim that illegal abortions were performed by quack doctors and not by physicians.

As we can see, "Never again" never was. There were not several thousand women losing their lives due to illegal abortions performed by quack doctors. Effective medical treatments helped reduce abortion related deaths and the legalization of abortion never played a significant role (and never will) in affecting the numbers of women who died from legal or illegal abortion-related deaths. That women continue to die from so-called "safe, legal" abortions (perhaps in greater numbers than we know) is a clear indication that abortion is unsafe and hurts women - legal or otherwise.

Hey, you plagiarize really, really well.

Abortion Myths | Texas Right to Life

So not only can you not make your own arguments, you try and take others bullshit as your own.

Tell me, does it hurt?

Nope, doesn't hurt at all. The title Abortion-Myths was copied and pasted.

 

[jillian]

You liberals are a bunch of perverse, twisted, sick sob's that's for sure.

what is perverse is allowing women to die because the radical religious right thinks they should die rather than have an abortion.

now THAT is perverse.

Is that what happened to you?

you're not very bright...

no surprises.

 

[RosieS]

it's only piss and shit, like it was something important.

You have no credibility. You are barely permitted to have an opinion.

And anyone should give a crap what you say, why? Humanity is moral too....but you are a prime example that morals that are inhumane are Fascist.

Regards from Rosie

 

[thereisnospoon]

When going to gay bars women go to the bathroom with drag queens all the time, I sure didn't care. When in public I could careless too. Men would probably have more of a problem with transgender male or drag queen in their bathroom anyways.

Hey rocket scientist. Nobody cares if you lived in the world of seedy bars and other places where deviants gather.
These are not consenting adults. They are KIDS...Get it?

I do love retards like you and QW who can't follow threads and posts.
And the fact you call them deviants says a lot.
Right wingers have proven to be quite the morons in this thread. The only non fuck up I think was Si Modo.

Yeah well I am not the one advocating kids of both sexes eliminate in the same room either.
I guess that makes me 'abnormal'.
Fortunately the School Board in this community backed down. The people have spoken and they are running the show. Not the spineless weenies who go through their day covering their asses at every turn.

 

[Luissa]

Hey rocket scientist. Nobody cares if you lived in the world of seedy bars and other places where deviants gather.
These are not consenting adults. They are KIDS...Get it?

I do love retards like you and QW who can't follow threads and posts.
And the fact you call them deviants says a lot.
Right wingers have proven to be quite the morons in this thread. The only non fuck up I think was Si Modo.

Yeah well I am not the one advocating kids of both sexes eliminate in the same room either.
I guess that makes me 'abnormal'.
Fortunately the School Board in this community backed down. The people have spoken and they are running the show. Not the spineless weenies who go through their day covering their asses at every turn.

I have said numerous times it should be up to the parents. I just argued that the children won't molested or scarred because they share a bathroom with a transgender child.

 

[thereisnospoon]

it's only piss and shit, like it was something important.

You have no credibility. You are barely permitted to have an opinion.

And anyone should give a crap what you say, why? Humanity is moral too....but you are a prime example that morals that are inhumane are Fascist.

Regards from Rosie

Yeah right. That and 50 cents will get you a Senior coffee.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I do love retards like you and QW who can't follow threads and posts.
And the fact you call them deviants says a lot.
Right wingers have proven to be quite the morons in this thread. The only non fuck up I think was Si Modo.

Yeah well I am not the one advocating kids of both sexes eliminate in the same room either.
I guess that makes me 'abnormal'.
Fortunately the School Board in this community backed down. The people have spoken and they are running the show. Not the spineless weenies who go through their day covering their asses at every turn.

I have said numerous times it should be up to the parents. I just argued that the children won't molested or scarred because they share a bathroom with a transgender child.

Newsflash....There NO SUCH THING as a "trans gender" child.
This is nothing but made up liberal clap trap.

 

[Luissa]

Yeah well I am not the one advocating kids of both sexes eliminate in the same room either.
I guess that makes me 'abnormal'.
Fortunately the School Board in this community backed down. The people have spoken and they are running the show. Not the spineless weenies who go through their day covering their asses at every turn.

I have said numerous times it should be up to the parents. I just argued that the children won't molested or scarred because they share a bathroom with a transgender child.

Newsflash....There NO SUCH THING as a "trans gender" child.
This is nothing but made up liberal clap trap.

Sure it is.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I bet there are plenty of little girls who the school has no idea were born male, or little boys that were born female. However for some it's not as simple as switching school districts and enrolling your child as the opposite gender.

It's pretty hard to hide when your 3rd grader who was called Timmy last year shows up for 4th grade with a new name ,in a dress.

A boy born female and a girl born male?

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.

I'm just glad you were able to read it, but I hear sounding out the words really helps.

Either way it's still the dumbest thing I've ever read.

You should be proud.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I'm just glad you were able to read it, but I hear sounding out the words really helps.

Can an African american be born caucasian?

Are you and Lonestar Lack of Logic really saying you have never heard of sexual ambivalence?

Have either of you ever heard of something called GOOGLEfuckingDOTcom?

You might want to try it.

Or, you may prefer to stay as dumb as Stephanie.

Sexual ambivalence has nothing to do with a boy going into the girls restroom or vice versa.

Perhaps your confusing it with hermaphrodite which is very rare in humans.

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

Can an African american be born caucasian?

Are you and Lonestar Lack of Logic really saying you have never heard of sexual ambivalence?

Have either of you ever heard of something called GOOGLEfuckingDOTcom?

You might want to try it.

Or, you may prefer to stay as dumb as Stephanie.

Sexual ambivalence has nothing to do with a boy going into the girls restroom or vice versa.

Perhaps your confusing it with hermaphrodite which is very rare in humans.

Is a hermaphrodite a cross between Herman Munster and Aphrodite?

 

[gallantwarrior]

I would be interested in knowing how many of these "trans-gender" children have the normal parental contingent of one mother (biological female) and one father (biological male). Or how many have any of the newly fashionable pairings, two daddies, two mommies, etc.

 

[Luissa]

I would be interested in knowing how many of these "trans-gender" children have the normal parental contingent of one mother (biological female) and one father (biological male). Or how many have any of the newly fashionable pairings, two daddies, two mommies, etc.

Why does it matter?

 

[jillian]

I would be interested in knowing how many of these "trans-gender" children have the normal parental contingent of one mother (biological female) and one father (biological male). Or how many have any of the newly fashionable pairings, two daddies, two mommies, etc.

Why does it matter?

because he's a bigot and a homophobe?