"Stop and frisk" fascism vs. 2nd Amendment

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So merchants of all stripes should be permitted to deny services to African Americans or Jews or women or homosexuals? Are there public accommodation laws or not?

If they do, then a sharper entrapranuer will swoop in and take that business, along with the core business in all likelihood. Walmart cares about one color - green. Ditto Amazon, Uber, et al.

This isn't Scotland in 1220.

Progress past that level, Comrade.
 
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Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.

Are you building a straw man based on slander and libel.

Well you are a demagogue. :dunno:

Freedom, that which you fight to crush, means that people may be stupid and sometimes mean. Run off to your safe space and cry about it.

Those who refuse to service customers will lose business to those who are willing to serve the customers. No need for you mindless thugs to march in with your jackboots.
 
There is a distinct difference in our definitions of discrimination.

{
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
verb: discriminate; 3rd person present: discriminates; past tense: discriminated; past participle: discriminated; gerund or present participle: discriminating
1
.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
"babies can discriminate between different facial expressions of emotion"
synonyms: differentiate, distinguish, draw a distinction, tell the difference, tell apart;
separate, separate the sheep from the goats, separate the wheat from the chaff
"he cannot discriminate between fact and fiction"
}

Words have meanings, that the left cannot grasp reality in no way alters the fact that words have meanings.

The fool who cannot discriminate between a snarling dog and one wagging there tail will often find the idiocy or their ways.

"Racial Discrimination" is a phrase that means to differentiate based on race. Often this is tied to bigotry - similar to the bigotry have toward Christians.

But even in this you leftists discriminate, Muslims are good, Christians are bad.

You use a narrow example of 'distinguishing' between red and green as opposed to 'discriminating' against a person or group you personally find distasteful. Do you think I would be enlightened by specious logic? Are you?

And the dogma with which bigots use as an aegis to defend their blind stupid hatred does not square with the preaching of Jesus Christ. They are preventing a loving, forgiving, beautiful faith to serve an ugly purpose. This is sadly all too typical of fundamentalists of all faiths. I cite Islamic fundamentalism as a paradigm to these unChristian bigots.

Such as the blind stupid hatred you of the left have for white people and Christians?

And that stupid, unfounded hatred DOES do real harm beyond 'hurt feelings'. A catered affair is expensive. Using moronic dogma against an otherwise paying customer can cause the cost of the affair to spiral upward, cause the paying customer to seek services far from their hometown, and create a situation that divides one person from the community, one paying customer from another and uses 'faith' as a weapon rather than the embrace it was meant to be.

But, I suspect you hold no place in your heart, your mind or whatever passes for you civic ethics for anyone who fails to toe the line of your narrow and exclusive world view.

This was not a catered affair, it was a targeted attack on a religious couple to challenge and defeat 1st amendment protections. There are plenty of bakeries in Portland, "Sweet Cakes" was targeted because of Christian imagery displayed at a trade show.

Regardless of reason though, it is clear that you or abjectly hostile to the 1st amendment and an opponent of civil rights. The anti-liberty left is dedicated to crushing civil rights in general, as you demonstrate here.
Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.
--------------------------------------- noble or not hatred , fear and narrow mindedness are all acceptable and there are many definitions of all those emotions so which do you pick . Seems to me that only violent actions against people or private property are illegal Nosmo . Blind discrimination should be upheld by law when the discrimination is Private and not Governmental Nosmo .
So merchants of all stripes should be permitted to deny services to African Americans or Jews or women or homosexuals? Are there public accommodation laws or not?
----------------------------------------- yes there are bad anti discrimination laws but like I already said , discrimination in private business and private affairs should be acceptable Nosmo .
"We refuse service to Jews, Homosexuals, Blacks and Women"

Such a sign should appear in a merchant's window?

A return to 1916.
 
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Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.

Are you building a straw man based on slander and libel.

Well you are a demagogue. :dunno:

Freedom, that which you fight to crush, means that people may be stupid and sometimes mean. Run off to your safe space and cry about it.

Those who refuse to service customers will lose business to those who are willing to serve the customers. No need for you mindless thugs to march in with your jackboots.
Are businesses licensed?
 
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So merchants of all stripes should be permitted to deny services to African Americans or Jews or women or homosexuals? Are there public accommodation laws or not?

If they do, then a sharper entrapranuer will swoop in and take that business, along with the core business in all likelihood. Walmart cares about one color - green. Ditto Amazon, Uber, et al.

This isn't Scotland in 1220.

Progress past that level, Comrade.
Are businesses licensed by the state? Are they open to the public? Are they subject to the law?
 
Someone needs to come out with a high tech metal detector that works as you walk by.

Then the police would have probable cause to see if the State's laws were being followed regarding concealed weapons.

Then there would be no constitutional racial issue.
 
{
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
verb: discriminate; 3rd person present: discriminates; past tense: discriminated; past participle: discriminated; gerund or present participle: discriminating
1
.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
"babies can discriminate between different facial expressions of emotion"
synonyms: differentiate, distinguish, draw a distinction, tell the difference, tell apart;
separate, separate the sheep from the goats, separate the wheat from the chaff
"he cannot discriminate between fact and fiction"
}

Words have meanings, that the left cannot grasp reality in no way alters the fact that words have meanings.

The fool who cannot discriminate between a snarling dog and one wagging there tail will often find the idiocy or their ways.

"Racial Discrimination" is a phrase that means to differentiate based on race. Often this is tied to bigotry - similar to the bigotry have toward Christians.

But even in this you leftists discriminate, Muslims are good, Christians are bad.

Such as the blind stupid hatred you of the left have for white people and Christians?

This was not a catered affair, it was a targeted attack on a religious couple to challenge and defeat 1st amendment protections. There are plenty of bakeries in Portland, "Sweet Cakes" was targeted because of Christian imagery displayed at a trade show.

Regardless of reason though, it is clear that you or abjectly hostile to the 1st amendment and an opponent of civil rights. The anti-liberty left is dedicated to crushing civil rights in general, as you demonstrate here.
Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.
--------------------------------------- noble or not hatred , fear and narrow mindedness are all acceptable and there are many definitions of all those emotions so which do you pick . Seems to me that only violent actions against people or private property are illegal Nosmo . Blind discrimination should be upheld by law when the discrimination is Private and not Governmental Nosmo .
So merchants of all stripes should be permitted to deny services to African Americans or Jews or women or homosexuals? Are there public accommodation laws or not?
----------------------------------------- yes there are bad anti discrimination laws but like I already said , discrimination in private business and private affairs should be acceptable Nosmo .
"We refuse service to Jews, Homosexuals, Blacks and Women"

Such a sign should appear in a merchant's window?

A return to 1916.
-------------------------------------- and then a guy with brains and a smile puts out a sign at his business saying ,--- ' We Serve Everyone with a smile' , Everyone is Welcome . --- No laws were needed or used , no force and the guy that hates blacks , jews and woman is promply put out of business as FREEDOM to do private business and Free Association is upheld Nosmo !!
 
Are businesses licensed by the state?

I suppose it depends on the state, but here in the peoples republic they are licensed by either the city or county in which they reside.

Are they open to the public?

Some are, many are not.

Are they subject to the law?

Laws must follow our Constitution.

Here are words you of the left hate with a passion;

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

This means your don't get to piss in the face of bakers who hold beliefs you don't like.
 
Are businesses licensed by the state?

I suppose it depends on the state, but here in the peoples republic they are licensed by either the city or county in which they reside.

Are they open to the public?

Some are, many are not.

Are they subject to the law?

Laws must follow our Constitution.

Here are words you of the left hate with a passion;

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

This means your don't get to piss in the face of bakers who hold beliefs you don't like.
When those bigoted bakers impose their "religious" beliefs on the public they are licensed to serve, then ask that laws be written to protect their bigotry, they are asking for an establishment of religion by the state.
 
There is a distinct difference in our definitions of discrimination.

{
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
verb: discriminate; 3rd person present: discriminates; past tense: discriminated; past participle: discriminated; gerund or present participle: discriminating
1
.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
"babies can discriminate between different facial expressions of emotion"
synonyms: differentiate, distinguish, draw a distinction, tell the difference, tell apart;
separate, separate the sheep from the goats, separate the wheat from the chaff
"he cannot discriminate between fact and fiction"
}

Words have meanings, that the left cannot grasp reality in no way alters the fact that words have meanings.

The fool who cannot discriminate between a snarling dog and one wagging there tail will often find the idiocy or their ways.

"Racial Discrimination" is a phrase that means to differentiate based on race. Often this is tied to bigotry - similar to the bigotry have toward Christians.

But even in this you leftists discriminate, Muslims are good, Christians are bad.

You use a narrow example of 'distinguishing' between red and green as opposed to 'discriminating' against a person or group you personally find distasteful. Do you think I would be enlightened by specious logic? Are you?

And the dogma with which bigots use as an aegis to defend their blind stupid hatred does not square with the preaching of Jesus Christ. They are preventing a loving, forgiving, beautiful faith to serve an ugly purpose. This is sadly all too typical of fundamentalists of all faiths. I cite Islamic fundamentalism as a paradigm to these unChristian bigots.

Such as the blind stupid hatred you of the left have for white people and Christians?

And that stupid, unfounded hatred DOES do real harm beyond 'hurt feelings'. A catered affair is expensive. Using moronic dogma against an otherwise paying customer can cause the cost of the affair to spiral upward, cause the paying customer to seek services far from their hometown, and create a situation that divides one person from the community, one paying customer from another and uses 'faith' as a weapon rather than the embrace it was meant to be.

But, I suspect you hold no place in your heart, your mind or whatever passes for you civic ethics for anyone who fails to toe the line of your narrow and exclusive world view.

This was not a catered affair, it was a targeted attack on a religious couple to challenge and defeat 1st amendment protections. There are plenty of bakeries in Portland, "Sweet Cakes" was targeted because of Christian imagery displayed at a trade show.

Regardless of reason though, it is clear that you or abjectly hostile to the 1st amendment and an opponent of civil rights. The anti-liberty left is dedicated to crushing civil rights in general, as you demonstrate here.
Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.
you guys are so negative, Trump has positive qualities too.
 
There is a distinct difference in our definitions of discrimination.

{
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
verb: discriminate; 3rd person present: discriminates; past tense: discriminated; past participle: discriminated; gerund or present participle: discriminating
1
.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
"babies can discriminate between different facial expressions of emotion"
synonyms: differentiate, distinguish, draw a distinction, tell the difference, tell apart;
separate, separate the sheep from the goats, separate the wheat from the chaff
"he cannot discriminate between fact and fiction"
}

Words have meanings, that the left cannot grasp reality in no way alters the fact that words have meanings.

The fool who cannot discriminate between a snarling dog and one wagging there tail will often find the idiocy or their ways.

"Racial Discrimination" is a phrase that means to differentiate based on race. Often this is tied to bigotry - similar to the bigotry have toward Christians.

But even in this you leftists discriminate, Muslims are good, Christians are bad.

You use a narrow example of 'distinguishing' between red and green as opposed to 'discriminating' against a person or group you personally find distasteful. Do you think I would be enlightened by specious logic? Are you?

And the dogma with which bigots use as an aegis to defend their blind stupid hatred does not square with the preaching of Jesus Christ. They are preventing a loving, forgiving, beautiful faith to serve an ugly purpose. This is sadly all too typical of fundamentalists of all faiths. I cite Islamic fundamentalism as a paradigm to these unChristian bigots.

Such as the blind stupid hatred you of the left have for white people and Christians?

And that stupid, unfounded hatred DOES do real harm beyond 'hurt feelings'. A catered affair is expensive. Using moronic dogma against an otherwise paying customer can cause the cost of the affair to spiral upward, cause the paying customer to seek services far from their hometown, and create a situation that divides one person from the community, one paying customer from another and uses 'faith' as a weapon rather than the embrace it was meant to be.

But, I suspect you hold no place in your heart, your mind or whatever passes for you civic ethics for anyone who fails to toe the line of your narrow and exclusive world view.

This was not a catered affair, it was a targeted attack on a religious couple to challenge and defeat 1st amendment protections. There are plenty of bakeries in Portland, "Sweet Cakes" was targeted because of Christian imagery displayed at a trade show.

Regardless of reason though, it is clear that you or abjectly hostile to the 1st amendment and an opponent of civil rights. The anti-liberty left is dedicated to crushing civil rights in general, as you demonstrate here.
Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.
you guys are so negative, Trump has positive qualities too.
Name three.
 
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When those bigoted bakers impose their "religious" beliefs on the public they are licensed to serve, then ask that laws be written to protect their bigotry, they are asking for an establishment of religion by the state.

The bigot of course is you and your fellow Communists.

When one of your beloved ISIS allies refuses to eat pork, is he imposing on you? What if he refuses to DELIVER pork?

Of course not. The act of not engaging in a behavior is passive. You can simply go elsewhere for your pork as could the lesbians.

Now when you totalitarian thugs point guns at the bakers and tell them they MUST bake a cake, you are enslaving them, forcing them into involuntary servitude - but that is the model you seek for all society, a community of slaves under the iron fist of the party...
 
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When those bigoted bakers impose their "religious" beliefs on the public they are licensed to serve, then ask that laws be written to protect their bigotry, they are asking for an establishment of religion by the state.

The bigot of course is you and your fellow Communists.

When one of your beloved ISIS allies refuses to eat pork, is he imposing on you? What if he refuses to DELIVER pork?

Of course not. The act of not engaging in a behavior is passive. You can simply go elsewhere for your pork as could the lesbians.

Now when you totalitarian thugs point guns at the bakers and tell them they MUST bake a cake, you are enslaving them, forcing them into involuntary servitude - but that is the model you seek for all society, a community of slaves under the iron fist of the party...
How do you reckon I'm a bigot and a Communist?

How do you reckon ISIS is beloved by me? And how do you reckon totalitarian thugs are point guns at the bakers and telling them they MUST bake a cake, thereby enslaving them, forcing them into involuntary servitude?

Are they not bakers? Isn't baking their stock and trade? Are they not compensated for their work?

Hyperbole. The last refuge of a failing argument.
 
There is a distinct difference in our definitions of discrimination.

{
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
verb: discriminate; 3rd person present: discriminates; past tense: discriminated; past participle: discriminated; gerund or present participle: discriminating
1
.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
"babies can discriminate between different facial expressions of emotion"
synonyms: differentiate, distinguish, draw a distinction, tell the difference, tell apart;
separate, separate the sheep from the goats, separate the wheat from the chaff
"he cannot discriminate between fact and fiction"
}

Words have meanings, that the left cannot grasp reality in no way alters the fact that words have meanings.

The fool who cannot discriminate between a snarling dog and one wagging there tail will often find the idiocy or their ways.

"Racial Discrimination" is a phrase that means to differentiate based on race. Often this is tied to bigotry - similar to the bigotry have toward Christians.

But even in this you leftists discriminate, Muslims are good, Christians are bad.

You use a narrow example of 'distinguishing' between red and green as opposed to 'discriminating' against a person or group you personally find distasteful. Do you think I would be enlightened by specious logic? Are you?

And the dogma with which bigots use as an aegis to defend their blind stupid hatred does not square with the preaching of Jesus Christ. They are preventing a loving, forgiving, beautiful faith to serve an ugly purpose. This is sadly all too typical of fundamentalists of all faiths. I cite Islamic fundamentalism as a paradigm to these unChristian bigots.

Such as the blind stupid hatred you of the left have for white people and Christians?

And that stupid, unfounded hatred DOES do real harm beyond 'hurt feelings'. A catered affair is expensive. Using moronic dogma against an otherwise paying customer can cause the cost of the affair to spiral upward, cause the paying customer to seek services far from their hometown, and create a situation that divides one person from the community, one paying customer from another and uses 'faith' as a weapon rather than the embrace it was meant to be.

But, I suspect you hold no place in your heart, your mind or whatever passes for you civic ethics for anyone who fails to toe the line of your narrow and exclusive world view.

This was not a catered affair, it was a targeted attack on a religious couple to challenge and defeat 1st amendment protections. There are plenty of bakeries in Portland, "Sweet Cakes" was targeted because of Christian imagery displayed at a trade show.

Regardless of reason though, it is clear that you or abjectly hostile to the 1st amendment and an opponent of civil rights. The anti-liberty left is dedicated to crushing civil rights in general, as you demonstrate here.
Are you claiming bigotry as a liberty? Are you claiming there is nobility in hatred and fear and narrowmindedness? Are you citing discrimination, blind stupid discrimination as a protected right?

The world done turned upside down! When something used to divide the nation is regarded as a right, a liberty, a noble undertaking.

This explains how a boorish fool like Trump can get support. Our national ethos has been abandoned by the "Me First" generation. Fools and hedonists without regard for law, manners and civil comportment.
you guys are so negative, Trump has positive qualities too.
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When those bigoted bakers impose their "religious" beliefs on the public they are licensed to serve, then ask that laws be written to protect their bigotry, they are asking for an establishment of religion by the state.

The bigot of course is you and your fellow Communists.

When one of your beloved ISIS allies refuses to eat pork, is he imposing on you? What if he refuses to DELIVER pork?

Of course not. The act of not engaging in a behavior is passive. You can simply go elsewhere for your pork as could the lesbians.

Now when you totalitarian thugs point guns at the bakers and tell them they MUST bake a cake, you are enslaving them, forcing them into involuntary servitude - but that is the model you seek for all society, a community of slaves under the iron fist of the party...
How do you reckon I'm a bigot and a Communist?

How do you reckon ISIS is beloved by me? And how do you reckon totalitarian thugs are point guns at the bakers and telling them they MUST bake a cake, thereby enslaving them, forcing them into involuntary servitude?

Are they not bakers? Isn't baking their stock and trade? Are they not compensated for their work?

Hyperbole. The last refuge of a failing argument.
--------------------------------- As Americans they are should be FREE to decide when , where and if they are bakers Nosmo !!
 
and the enslavement happens when the state rushes in with force or legal decrees , fines and finally if all else fails the bakers will be forced at gunpoint into the jail Nosmo .
 
So what's it going to be republicans, or are you all hypocrites? Or is the 2nd amendment just for whites?.... which confirms your bigotry.
Stop & frisk does not violate a lawful citizen from possessing a firearm lol
All the thugs wanna LEGALLY carry a weapon? Fill out the proper paperwork like everyone else.
Or are you suggesting blacks are too stupid to do that? Perhaps it is YOU who is the racist no? Either that or you're just really fucking stupid

Fucking stupid is the answer...
 

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