Strict state gun laws and suicide

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Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com


this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.
Anti-gun loons start with "I hate guns" and work backwards from there.
 
Look.......far better somebody offs themselves with a gun compared to stepping in front of a train and ruining the life of the engineer and fucking up the line for thousands of passengers for hours.....maybe a few passengers don't make it someplace and other people get hurt or worse.
 
If Clayton had any intellectual honesty, he'd lay down one of his post hoc ergo propter hoc responses.
Clayton, being a liberal and therefore inherently dishonest, will do no such thing.
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com


this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.

How do you explain the results?
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com


this is stupid. Guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate. Japan, South Korea, and China have absolute gun control and 2 times or more the suicide rate as we do. The suicide rates have more to do with other factors, mental illness, alcohol and drug abuse and other issues…..nice try.

How do you explain the results?


I don't know...but considering that Japan, South Korea and China all have absolute gun control and Hungary and Poland for that matter have stricter gun laws than we do......and they all have higher suicide rates than we do...

Guns are not the issue...

And tell me......how does taking an 8 hour class, sometimes maybe years before committing suicide, keep someone from comitting suicide? Explain that......
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.


Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.


Rope is a suicide machine since it is the most common method of suicide around the entire world...in fact....in countries with absolute gun control...people hang themselves....

Ban rope.....
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...


While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.

The only people that need to protect themselves from me are the ones trying to get into my house at the wrong time of day, (or night).
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...


While it is the most prevalent method, it is far from the only method.

and if someone is willing to put a gun to their head, they are willing to use other methods if a gun is not available.

The gun is a tool, and only a tool.

But, it isn't the ONLY tool.
It's too easy a tool, hence the problem...
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.


Rope is a suicide machine since it is the most common method of suicide around the entire world...in fact....in countries with absolute gun control...people hang themselves....

Ban rope.....
Same thing as seat belts, we just want to take the numbers down a bit. You are Pro-Life right?
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.


Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.
People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.
 
Interesting results:

Researchers examined suicide rates in Connecticut and Missouri, two states that changed their permit-to-purchase handgun laws in recent decades. Connecticut passed a law in 1995 that requires people to apply for a permit with local law enforcement and take eight hours of gun safety training before they can buy a firearm. In 2007 in Missouri, the state repealed a 1921 law that required people to apply with the local police to buy a gun.

The rate of gun-related suicide in Connecticut in the 10 years after its law passed was 15% lower than what researchers predict it would have been had the law not been passed. The researchers made this prediction based on the suicide rate between 1995 and 2005 in Rhode Island and North Dakota, which have similar demographics as Connecticut, and which also had similar suicide rates as Connecticut in the years before its law (1981-1994).

In contrast, the gun-related suicide rate in Missouri was 16% higher from 2007 to 2011 than researchers predict it would have been based on the rates in the comparable states of North Carolina and Nebraska.

Strict state gun laws could cut suicides, study says - CNN.com
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.


Numbers I'm well aware of.

total dead?
.01% of the country

Not large enough to be considered a small epidemic.

(Pssst, MY 357 has a larger brain than you, and spouts off less)
 
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.
Handguns are suicide machines. 20,000 deaths a year.

Yup, they're insidious.

They just lay there, staring at you thru their sights, whispering to you, daring you to put their barrel in your mouth, to put them up to your ear, so you can hear the bullet coming thru the barrel.

suicide machines....


:bsflag:
Yep, based on the numbers. It's a math thing, you wouldn't get it since to you guns are for protection, which is why you don't want your enemies to have them. They might protect themselves, from you...

Gun deaths by the numbers:
20k suicides
8.5k homicides
500 accidental
230 criminals killed in defense

By far the owner is most likely one to be shot.


Sorry....you left out the fact that there are over 320 million guns in private hands and 103 million people have guns......so no.....most people will not have a problem with a gun...

If they have a car and a gun....they will have more of a chance of dying in the car....over 33,000 accidental deaths in cars......

Falling, poisoning, and drowning, as well as furniture in the house are more dangerous than guns.
People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves. That bit of common sense isn't going to go away no matter how hard you try, or how much you love your deadly toys.


People without firearms around rarely shoot themselves

People without cars rarely drive drunk.

People that live in basements rarely hurt themselves jumping out their living room window.

Go figure.

Right?
 

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