Study: Free birth control leads to fewer abortions; Romney wants to cut access.

[P@triot]

Yes it does. In the case of Ms. Fluke, it would come from her premiums. In the case of the study, the money spent today is nominal compared to the money spent on new classrooms, prisons, and entitlements in 10-20 years.

If it's "nominal" then she can pay for it herself. Or you can pay for it. Either way, it's NOT the responsibility of the federal government and it is unconstitutional.

The "nominal" cost is when you factor in GPO (group purchasing organizations) and eligible drugs under the 340b program (apexus). They usually do not apply to individual purchases.

If you want to talk about price controls for drugs, I'm all ears.

Furthermore, lets cut off the unconstitutional entitlements and put prisoners to work 12 hours per day. All problems solved!

What do you want prisoners to do for 12 hours a day--what types of work? Just curious.

Oh I see, so now your backpedaling after I pointed out that if it were "nominal", why doesn't everyone pay for it themselves? Typical of the left.

Here's the thing though - it really makes no difference how you spin any cost for any item - it's still the responsibility of the individual to purchase their own good and services. The only time it is not the responsibility of the individual is when someone - OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL - decides to assume and/or share in the burden. It's called "charity" - a concept not understood by the greedy, selfish dumbocrat.

Unless, of course, you are a communist who believes we should all share the burden of all costs. So is that what you're saying? Can we finally have an honest conversation? Or would you prefer to continue this useless dance that you're some "red-blooded American" even while you keep calling for communism and supporting the radical Marxist on the White House?

 

[P@triot]

What do you want prisoners to do for 12 hours a day--what types of work? Just curious.

Anything they can that our tax dollars do now. For instance, you can't have them involved with national security, but you can have them repairing roads.

I never understood why I pay a fortune in taxes to house these worthless animals, and then I have to turn around and pay a fortune in taxes to repair roads/bridges/etc.

Since I'm paying for inmates food, healthcare, housing - they least they can do is EARN it.

 

[Seawytch]

I live in San Francisco, I probably know more lesbians than you do, which is why I know that some of them are just aggressive about sleeping around as any man. Go ahead, lie about that too, tell me all lesbians are just like you. By the way, you are still lying when you claim you can tell if someone is married just by looking.

Again, I never slept with a woman before getting to know her first, ESPECIALLY when I was in the service, so your argument is moot.

You claimed you can tell by looking, are you retracting that claim?

Link to the post where that claim was made.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Anyone that claims they can tell if a woman is married simply by looking at them is a liar. If you prefer to be called a lair to being mocked for being psychic I will gladly call you a lair.

I never slept with a woman after only just looking at them. I got to know women before sleeping with them.

You don't know much about lesbians do you?

I live in San Francisco, I probably know more lesbians than you do, which is why I know that some of them are just aggressive about sleeping around as any man. Go ahead, lie about that too, tell me all lesbians are just like you. By the way, you are still lying when you claim you can tell if someone is married just by looking.

That is the truth, about lesbians being aggressive. I was invited to, and actually attended, a lesbian talent show. It was for charity and sounded kinda fun, in a different way. The Masters of Ceremony, both allegedly dykes, talked just as nasty about women as and men I've ever heard. Derogatory, tits-n-ass, boy-I'd-like-to-fuck-that stuff. And they have the nerve to be offended if a guy says shit like that!

 

[Inthemiddle]

"Some pediatricians have been reluctant to recommend IUDs for teens, partly because of concerns over infection risks; an older model was blamed for infertility."

IUDs, implants urged for teen girls' birth control - Yahoo! Finance

OMG, doctors recommending a course of medical treatment? The world's going to hell in a bread basket!! What next? Teaching science in high school science classes?

Not only are you stupid, you are illiterate.

No.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

OMG, doctors recommending a course of medical treatment? The world's going to hell in a bread basket!! What next? Teaching science in high school science classes?

Not only are you stupid, you are illiterate.

No.

Actually, yes, the doctors were advising against a medical treatment.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Not only are you stupid, you are illiterate.

No.

Actually, yes, the doctors were advising against a medical treatment.

1. Did you read the link?

The IUD and implants are safe and nearly 100 percent effective at preventing pregnancy, and should be "first-line recommendations," the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said in updating its guidance for teens.

2. Even if they were advising against a certian thing, what difference does that make? They're still making recommendations for medical treatment.

 

[koshergrl]

I thought we weren't talking about IUDs, lol.

I guess we're just not talking about them when we point out the inherent risks.

 

[koshergrl]

I take it from your siggy you support porn, itm?

 

[Inthemiddle]

I take it from your siggy you support porn, itm?

Elaborate.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I take it from your siggy you support porn, itm?

Elaborate.

No one needs to elaborate on anything with you or to you. You're a lowlife bigot who romanticizes the Holocaust and claims to be Jewish. You're beneath contempt.

 

[Inthemiddle]

I take it from your siggy you support porn, itm?

Elaborate.

No one needs to elaborate on anything with you or to you. You're a lowlife bigot who romanticizes the Holocaust and claims to be Jewish. You're beneath contempt.

She asked me a question, I've asked her to elaborate, none of that should be any concern of yours. And FYI, I don't romanticize the Holocaust. If you can't comprehend satire, then that is your problem. Now get back out to that corner and make me some money, You piece of wetback trash.

 

[JoeB131]

Why do I have to be psychic to know I've never slept with a married woman? It would seem to me that your insistence that I have speaks volumes about you, not me.

Anyone that claims they can tell if a woman is married simply by looking at them is a liar. If you prefer to be called a lair to being mocked for being psychic I will gladly call you a lair.

I never slept with a woman after only just looking at them. I got to know women before sleeping with them.

You don't know much about lesbians do you?

Probably just what he's seen in porn films.

 

[JoeB131]

What do you want prisoners to do for 12 hours a day--what types of work? Just curious.

Anything they can that our tax dollars do now. For instance, you can't have them involved with national security, but you can have them repairing roads.

I never understood why I pay a fortune in taxes to house these worthless animals, and then I have to turn around and pay a fortune in taxes to repair roads/bridges/etc.

Since I'm paying for inmates food, healthcare, housing - they least they can do is EARN it.

Well, funny thing. How is it the United States locks up 2 million people and Germany only locks up 78,000?

The problem with putting prisoners out working on roads is that you have a good chance they can get away.

Now, they actually do this for the short-sentence guys who escaping would be more trouble than it was worth.

The real problem is that we have a prison-industrial complex where big corporations get cheap labor, constantly fed by people being thrown in prison for crimes that really don't merit imprisonment.

The United States locks up more people than China does, a Communist Dictatorship with four times as many people.

 

[candycorn]

If it's "nominal" then she can pay for it herself. Or you can pay for it. Either way, it's NOT the responsibility of the federal government and it is unconstitutional.

The "nominal" cost is when you factor in GPO (group purchasing organizations) and eligible drugs under the 340b program (apexus). They usually do not apply to individual purchases.

If you want to talk about price controls for drugs, I'm all ears.

Furthermore, lets cut off the unconstitutional entitlements and put prisoners to work 12 hours per day. All problems solved!

What do you want prisoners to do for 12 hours a day--what types of work? Just curious.

Oh I see, so now your backpedaling after I pointed out that if it were "nominal", why doesn't everyone pay for it themselves? Typical of the left.

No. I just know more about this than you. There is a cost for the wholesale market and there is a cost for individuals. If you don't believe me, you should go into a Costco or a Sam's wholesale club. Does this really have to be explained to you? Typical brain-dead conservative.

Here's the thing though - it really makes no difference how you spin any cost for any item - it's still the responsibility of the individual to purchase their own good and services. The only time it is not the responsibility of the individual is when someone - OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL - decides to assume and/or share in the burden. It's called "charity" - a concept not understood by the greedy, selfish dumbocrat.

Unless, of course, you are a communist who believes we should all share the burden of all costs. So is that what you're saying? Can we finally have an honest conversation? Or would you prefer to continue this useless dance that you're some "red-blooded American" even while you keep calling for communism and supporting the radical Marxist on the White House?

I can have an honest conversation; I doubt you are capable.

Look society has decided, much to your chagrin, that we don't want starving kids in the street. So we fund welfare in the form of WIC, food stamps, etc...

The study indicates that free contraception reduces the number of kids being born. What should be obvious to you is that fewer kids being born means less kids and families on welfare. Maybe thats a bridge too far for someone like you who is usually befuddled by shoe laces but lets move on.

What I am saying is this....in this election, Romney wants to eliminate the Title X funding. Title X funding is for family planning. It is about $300M per year or about $1 per taxpayer. He says he wants to do it to starve funding to "abortion groups" like Planned Parenthood. Perhaps you don't know much about sex involving 2 persons (I'd lay money on that) but let me explain it to you. Contraception prevents pregnancy (your appearance probably does too come to think of it). Without contraception, there will be more pregnancies and that will actually lead to more abortions. So Mitt's stance is moronic at best.

Now, back to society; if there are more pregnancies, there will also be more births. This will undoubtedly lead to more welfare that Americans pay for, more kids in the classrooms that further retards our educational system, and ultimately more people in prison since the correlation between crime and poor upbringing is vividly clear to most.

Title X funding goes to far more non Planned Parenthood sites than PP sites so Mitt's aim is off here as well.

 

[JoeB131]

Actually, I believe that poll because just listening to the chicks around my office, they are all creeped out by Romney...

You work with baby birds?

Well, if they hope to grow up to be big birds, then I bet the would be creeped out by Romney.

Good one.

 

[candycorn]

What do you want prisoners to do for 12 hours a day--what types of work? Just curious.

Anything they can that our tax dollars do now. For instance, you can't have them involved with national security, but you can have them repairing roads.

I never understood why I pay a fortune in taxes to house these worthless animals, and then I have to turn around and pay a fortune in taxes to repair roads/bridges/etc.

Since I'm paying for inmates food, healthcare, housing - they least they can do is EARN it.

Ahh...and the jobs that went to non-inmates paving the roads; I guess their out of work now? You're the best advertisement for why we need 4 more years of Obama.

 

[koshergrl]

I see candy has started the lie chain back up.

Kill those babies to save babies!

You know that was a Nazi propaganda line, right? Death for life! heil obama!

 

[JoeB131]

I see candy has started the lie chain back up.

Kill those babies to save babies!

You know that was a Nazi propaganda line, right? Death for life! heil obama!

Fetuses aren't babies, and women had just as many abortions before Roe v. Wade as they did afterwards.

Since abortion providers were never arrested, it was just like the prohibition laws. Laws no one took seriously, and everyone ignored with impunity.

 

[koshergrl]

^^^lie.