Supreme Court: Coach Can Pray on the Sidelines. Ruling 6-3

[Couchpotato]

You didn’t read the story?

I did. He was kneeling on the 50 yd line and praying silently. That's not pushing your beliefs. The only reason anyone KNOWS what he was doing is because they asked and he was truthful with them. And his answer was that he was praying thanking God everyone completed the game uninjured. He didnt say what the prayer was or which god he was praying to. Everyone just inferred he meant God. Sorry but that's their problem not his. Im still trying to figure out why you all want the Government involved in things like this.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I did. He was kneeling on the 50 yd line and praying silently. That's not pushing your beliefs.

So you would have no problem with a high school coach doing a Satanic prayer after games with some of the players.

 

[Couchpotato]

So you would have no problem with a high school coach doing a Satanic prayer after games with some of the players.

If some Satanist went to the middle of the field and prayed silently, how on earth would I know who he's praying to? BTW Satanists worship themself not Satan so if they were praying to themselves then they might have a mental issue outside their religious ones. I wouldnt allow my child to participate but what other parents do is their problem

 

[Cougarbear]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

More error by one without reasoning abilities. He wasn't endorsing any religion by praying. The Court ruled that coaches of all religions can pray in silence as a form of expression anywhere they want. There is no "separation of religion and state" in the Constitution. Only that we can express our religion openly and the state cannot start a religion of their own. Even though Democrat liberals have been doing so with their religion of Satan.

 

[USAF 2023]

So this coach was far enough from people I doubt anyone could hear him. What if he was "taking a knee," to support black rights?

He would get the Nobel Peace prize !!!

 

[Cougarbear]

As the TRUMPCourt continues to erode Constitutional protections long understood.

The coach has a right to personally pray but not to coerce players to participate in public prayer

The coach was fired for ignoring instructions not to hold public prayers not for the act of praying

But, he did stop having the team in on a vocal prayer. He was fired because he still knelt down in an act of prayer after games by himself. The ironic part of your post was this idea of long understood precedence. Up until the mid 20th century, it was Constitutionally approved of to pray in public in schools and government grounds. For almost 180 years it was approved of. That was precedence. Why was that overturned and approved by Democrat liberals and this cannot be overturned? I mean, really.

 

[Lisa558]

So liberals applaud when a bunch of rich ingrates refuse to show the proper respect to the U.S. flag but pitch a fit when someone kneels to pray?

 

[XponentialChaos]

If some Satanist went to the middle of the field and prayed silently, how on earth would I know who he's praying to?

This guy wasn’t praying silently. Did you forget to read the story?

 

[Cougarbear]

This guy wasn’t praying silently. Did you forget to read the story?

He's in the middle of the field alone. The band is playing and people talking. No one heard him. And, even if they did, that still doesn't break the Constitution. He's free to express his religion openly and loudly if he wants to. You can ignore him if you so choose to.

 

[XponentialChaos]

He's in the middle of the field alone. The band is playing and people talking. No one heard him.

False. Maybe you should try reading the story now.

 

[WEATHER53]

Liberals greatly fear a Higher Power that’s not government

 

[Cougarbear]

False. Maybe you should try reading the story now.

Okay, he's in the middle of the field praying loudly. So what? He's still afforded the right to freely express his gratitude to God in prayer anywhere in the U.S. This is in the Constitution's 1st amendment. Just like Congressmen in Congress can open with a word of prayer and still do. Jefferson was always present for the prayer too.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A win for religious freedom. For you Constitutional remedial learners: there is no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. The 1st Amendment says ONLY that Congress cannot establish a state religion, as in the Church of England. That's it.

Supreme Court Sides With Coach Over Prayers at the 50-Yard Line (Published 2022)

Joseph Kennedy, a former high school football coach in Bremerton, Wash., had a constitutional right to pray on the field after his team’s games, the justices ruled.

www.nytimes.com

High school football coach scores big win at Supreme Court over post-game prayer

The Supreme Court ruled that a school district violeted high school football coach Joe Kennedy's First Amendment rights by firing him for saying on-field prayers after games.

www.foxnews.com

You should have a mod correct your erroneous thread title. Not "sidelines".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He was kneeling on the 50 yd line and praying silently.

With students. On the clock. At a school sponsored event.

That was the issue people had with it. Not just atheists, eeither. Some religious people are responsible and dont play this lying ass little game where they pretend it is oppression not to be able to organize student prayer at school sponsored events.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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Again, a pretty stupid misrepresentation.

I dont understand why people are so willing to make themselves look so dumb to get attention on a message board.

 

[fncceo]

by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I don't believe The Court specified to whom we should pray ... only that prayer, a personal act, wasn't against The Constitution.

Our Congress begins every new session with a prayer. That has never been defined as an endorsement of a single faith.

Congress has an appointed Office of Chaplain ... but, this has never been defined as an endorsement of a single faith.

You can pray to Vishnu, Hashem, Allah, Beelzebub, Flying Pasta Monster, or L. Ron Hubbard ... or you can choose not to pray at all.

 

[WEATHER53]

Again, a pretty stupid misrepresentation.

I dont understand why people are so willing to make themselves look so dumb to get attention on a message board.

Thank you for the hand raising

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Our Congress begins every new session with a prayer. That has never been defined as an endorsement of a single faith.

Congress has an appointed Office of Chaplain ... but, this has never been defined as an endorsement of a single faith.

If they only ever prayed to a single faith/god/deity then it would be

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Again, a pretty stupid misrepresentation.

I dont understand why people are so willing to make themselves look so dumb to get attention on a message board.

That is exactly what happened.
An opposing coach who lost filed the complaint.
The meme is literally accurate