Supreme Court Rejects Final trump Election Challenge

[surada]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

A disappointment for people like you is a huge victory for all American loving Democrats and may those 49 repub senators who voted against covid relief burn in hell along with Trump

I'm all for the relief in the bill, just not the 90% of it that is pork. But, to imply that I don't love my country, after wearing the uniform of this country for 6 years, just highlights that thoughts like yours posted here are the problem with this country today.

How much of the "pork" is for the benefit of general welfare?

 

[j-mac]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Never see the dem appointed do that.

 

[White 6]

The Supreme Court finally put a stop to the court challenges today.

They threw out the last case trump has brought to that court.

So it's 0-4 on the court with his election challenges.

Thank goodness this is finally over. Hopefully the nation can move on from all the many lies.

Supreme Court rejects final Trump election challenge

Trump had appealed lower court rulings that upheld Wisconsin's handling of mail-in ballots. It was the last in a string of defeats before the court.

news.yahoo.com

Not sure the country will ever forgive and forget. If we did, we could end up with another trumpist down the road that could end our constitutional representative republic type of government in this country. You will remember, for the rest of your life, especially if any of the Senators that supported trying to overthrow the election after they lost are stupid enough to run for the presidency. It is time for a 3rd party, as Republicans in general will not be trusted, especially as they continue to make purges of anybody not of the trumpist mindset. You may not believe it Dana, but unless a viable 3rd party is assembled, you are going to miss the Republicans.

I've been a registered Independent since 1978.

I've voted a variety of parties through the decades.

I've posted many times on this board that I don't want the Republican Party to destroy itself. That we need two major parties in our nation for democracy to be able to exist. That the last thing we need is one major political party.

I'm not a democrat.

I'm a liberal. And proud of it. I have been all my life.

I hope that trump doesn't succeed in purging the Republican Party of the few sane people who are left.

I don't agree with much from today's Republican Party. I wish they would get their act together and stop trying to force their disastrous and failed economic and social policies on our nation.

Independence is good, as neither of the two main parties get it right, a lot of the time. As far as elected officials, the trump purges have worked and they appear to be at a tipping point, from which there is no return. With as many republicans that still support trump, even after his insurrection, they are presidential toast for the next 3 presidential elections at least, just to make sure to clear the anti-free election/insurrectionist crowd out, less they try it again.
I am moderate to conservative. I wish there were a rational conservative party to act as a counterbalance to unbridled liberalism, which (in my view) also could destroy the country. Good people are out there, but they would be stupid to try, under the republican banner.

Anyone who has read your posts would call you neither a moderate, nor conservative.

I understand your warped perspective. It is primarily due to the sliding scale of the radical right, and still thinking you are a conservative, while sliding more radically right during the last 12 - 20 years. Certainly nothing conservative about it, just paranoid.
It is conservative to build and take an active leadership role in coalitions of responsible traditional countries allies around the world, working with them to present a united front to guard against bad actors, despots, communists or dictatorial or autocratic regimes around the world, not ordering or demanding they dance strictly to our tune. We certainly should not be supporting rogue nations with unethical leaders such as Saudi Arabia and MLB. Nothing conservative about idolizing or admiring or elevating Putin or Kim on the world stage either, as they are what they are, have not changed and probably never will. Nothing conservative about continuing support of wars in the middle east or southwest Asia, that were blundered into by previous administrations and continued through republican and democrat administrations for a generation. There is not a single country on earth that we need to be conquering or consider conquering, but should simply be holding the line with our allies, so that democracy, self direction and liberty continue unabated for us, our allies and our posterity.
The current litmus tests of conservatism have been exaggerated to the point of stupidity. Free enterprise, private ownership and capitalism are the hallmarks and basis for our economic power and will be, but commitment to government benefit to welfare tax benefits to ultra rich without regard for the middle (almost non existent by current yardstick) and the poor is rediculous and self defeating, especially in healthcare and education. No other modern country is taking this approach, because it simply does not work, not for capitalist or socialist countries. Amazing that American made, patented drugs are cheaper across the border than here at home, isn't it? Amazing someone can get control of something like insulin production and simply spike the price point due to monopoly power, isn't it? Amazing that we used to have emergency rooms to handle emergencies, yet now in many places they are actually over crowded primary care for those that cannot afford healthcare due to lack of insurance and we now have trauma centers for real emergencies. Best healthcare on earth, if you can afford it. If not, well, we certainly do not lead the modern countries of the world in longevity, do we? We're not even in the top 20 or 30, last I looked. Feel free to look, yourself.
There is nothing conservative about blowing off modern inequities of success off to perceived or projected differences of race, either. Just a cheap cop out for white nationalist organizations to use, out of their own fears and inadequacies, in my book. The sudden acceptance of that movement to supposedly conservative politics and politicians is beyond me, unless recognized as part of the divide and conquer tactic du jour. Being secure, myself, I feel no fear or need to put down or conquer on that field of battle.
So, yes, I am somewhat conservative and definitely moderate or a voice for moderation in all things. I make no claim to have all the right answers, but recognize many of the wrong ones as instantly as I ever did. Only sound recommendation I can give, it to seek intelligent moderating leadership, using the best ideas of all people, from all walks of life, avoiding the belligerent rabble-rousers, appealing to our lowest common denominators to inflame their base. Just as I would advise, if flying commercial, avoid student pilots and recent fighter pilots, as radical (sometimes poorly planned) moves endanger everyone on the plane and make for a erratic flight with a lower chance of happy landings.

 

[j-mac]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Fortunately most adults, especially at that level, possess the capacity to understand the gravity of their position, take it seriously, and grow into it.

Trump being a notable exception, obviously.

Now, what exactly did your post here accomplish, other than make you look petty, and troll the thread?

 

[j-mac]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Fortunately most adults, especially at that level, possess the capacity to understand the gravity of their position, take it seriously, and grow into it.

Trump being a notable exception, obviously.

Trump treats everything like a contest that he MUST win. The constitution and rule of law are just a nuisance. He puts loyalty to himself first and can't imagine that Justice or the courts strive to be bi-partisan and put the country first.

Nonsense...that's just your own irrational hate talking.

 

[j-mac]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Fortunately most adults, especially at that level, possess the capacity to understand the gravity of their position, take it seriously, and grow into it.

Trump being a notable exception, obviously.

Trump treats everything like a contest that he MUST win. The constitution and rule of law are just a nuisance. He puts loyalty to himself first and can't imagine that Justice or the courts strive to be bi-partisan and put the country first.

It isn’t just Trump, the zero sum game of politics has become the nations norm...

That happened before Trump.

 

[j-mac]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

A disappointment for people like you is a huge victory for all American loving Democrats and may those 49 repub senators who voted against covid relief burn in hell along with Trump

I'm all for the relief in the bill, just not the 90% of it that is pork. But, to imply that I don't love my country, after wearing the uniform of this country for 6 years, just highlights that thoughts like yours posted here are the problem with this country today.

How much of the "pork" is for the benefit of general welfare?

If you're asking how much of it is in alignment with the enumerated powers, then I'd have to say very little.

 

[White 6]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Fortunately most adults, especially at that level, possess the capacity to understand the gravity of their position, take it seriously, and grow into it.

Trump being a notable exception, obviously.

Now, what exactly did your post here accomplish, other than make you look petty, and troll the thread?

I think Mac1958 was just going for accuracy and clarification for those that have a hard time understanding. Good job, Mac.

 

[toobfreak]

Thank goodness this is finally over. Hopefully the nation can move on from all the many lies.

Dimwit. CJ Roberts refuses to hear a few cases and you think America is willing to just forget they have a fraud in the White House running the country?

Meantime, his own court just shot him down 8 to 1 on the matter of free speech, and now THIS:

HUGE: Georgia Fails To Produce Chain Of Custody For 404,000 Absentee Ballots Months After Contested Election

A report by The Georgia Star News indicated that 67.5% of the states estimated 600,000 absentee vote by mail ballots lack chain of custody documents.

nationalfile.com

And who's right in the thick of it? Zuckerberg.

This is just beginning.

 

[j-mac]

The Supreme Court finally put a stop to the court challenges today.

They threw out the last case trump has brought to that court.

So it's 0-4 on the court with his election challenges.

Thank goodness this is finally over. Hopefully the nation can move on from all the many lies.

Supreme Court rejects final Trump election challenge

Trump had appealed lower court rulings that upheld Wisconsin's handling of mail-in ballots. It was the last in a string of defeats before the court.

news.yahoo.com

Not sure the country will ever forgive and forget. If we did, we could end up with another trumpist down the road that could end our constitutional representative republic type of government in this country. You will remember, for the rest of your life, especially if any of the Senators that supported trying to overthrow the election after they lost are stupid enough to run for the presidency. It is time for a 3rd party, as Republicans in general will not be trusted, especially as they continue to make purges of anybody not of the trumpist mindset. You may not believe it Dana, but unless a viable 3rd party is assembled, you are going to miss the Republicans.

I've been a registered Independent since 1978.

I've voted a variety of parties through the decades.

I've posted many times on this board that I don't want the Republican Party to destroy itself. That we need two major parties in our nation for democracy to be able to exist. That the last thing we need is one major political party.

I'm not a democrat.

I'm a liberal. And proud of it. I have been all my life.

I hope that trump doesn't succeed in purging the Republican Party of the few sane people who are left.

I don't agree with much from today's Republican Party. I wish they would get their act together and stop trying to force their disastrous and failed economic and social policies on our nation.

Independence is good, as neither of the two main parties get it right, a lot of the time. As far as elected officials, the trump purges have worked and they appear to be at a tipping point, from which there is no return. With as many republicans that still support trump, even after his insurrection, they are presidential toast for the next 3 presidential elections at least, just to make sure to clear the anti-free election/insurrectionist crowd out, less they try it again.
I am moderate to conservative. I wish there were a rational conservative party to act as a counterbalance to unbridled liberalism, which (in my view) also could destroy the country. Good people are out there, but they would be stupid to try, under the republican banner.

Anyone who has read your posts would call you neither a moderate, nor conservative.

I understand your warped perspective. It is primarily due to the sliding scale of the radical right, and still thinking you are a conservative, while sliding more radically right during the last 12 - 20 years. Certainly nothing conservative about it, just paranoid.
It is conservative to build and take an active leadership role in coalitions of responsible traditional countries allies around the world, working with them to present a united front to guard against bad actors, despots, communists or dictatorial or autocratic regimes around the world, not ordering or demanding they dance strictly to our tune. We certainly should not be supporting rogue nations with unethical leaders such as Saudi Arabia and MLB. Nothing conservative about idolizing or admiring or elevating Putin or Kim on the world stage either, as they are what they are, have not changed and probably never will. Nothing conservative about continuing support of wars in the middle east or southwest Asia, that were blundered into by previous administrations and continued through republican and democrat administrations for a generation. There is not a single country on earth that we need to be conquering or consider conquering, but should simply be holding the line with our allies, so that democracy, self direction and liberty continue unabated for us, our allies and our posterity.
The current litmus tests of conservatism have been exaggerated to the point of stupidity. Free enterprise, private ownership and capitalism are the hallmarks and basis for our economic power and will be, but commitment to government benefit to welfare tax benefits to ultra rich without regard for the middle (almost non existent by current yardstick) and the poor is rediculous and self defeating, especially in healthcare and education. No other modern country is taking this approach, because it simply does not work, not for capitalist or socialist countries. Amazing that American made, patented drugs are cheaper across the border than here at home, isn't it? Amazing someone can get control of something like insulin production and simply spike the price point due to monopoly power, isn't it? Amazing that we used to have emergency rooms to handle emergencies, yet now in many places they are actually over crowded primary care for those that cannot afford healthcare due to lack of insurance and we now have trauma centers for real emergencies. Best healthcare on earth, if you can afford it. If not, well, we certainly do not lead the modern countries of the world in longevity, do we? We're not even in the top 20 or 30, last I looked. Feel free to look, yourself.
There is nothing conservative about blowing off modern inequities of success off to perceived or projected differences of race, either. Just a cheap cop out for white nationalist organizations to use, out of their own fears and inadequacies, in my book. The sudden acceptance of that movement to supposedly conservative politics and politicians is beyond me, unless recognized as part of the divide and conquer tactic du jour. Being secure, myself, I feel no fear or need to put down or conquer on that field of battle.
So, yes, I am somewhat conservative and definitely moderate or a voice for moderation in all things. I make no claim to have all the right answers, but recognize many of the wrong ones as instantly as I ever did. Only sound recommendation I can give, it to seek intelligent moderating leadership, using the best ideas of all people, from all walks of life, avoiding the belligerent rabble-rousers, appealing to our lowest common denominators to inflame their base. Just as I would advise, if flying commercial, avoid student pilots and recent fighter pilots, as radical (sometimes poorly planned) moves endanger everyone on the plane and make for a erratic flight with a lower chance of happy landings.

I'd address this massive, kitchen sink post if I weren't on my phone right now. But, needless to say, the short question for you is, if you're so wonderful, and have such a clear grasp on things, why are you in some anonymous message board, instead of running to foist your magnificence on the rest of us?

 

[surada]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Fortunately most adults, especially at that level, possess the capacity to understand the gravity of their position, take it seriously, and grow into it.

Trump being a notable exception, obviously.

Now, what exactly did your post here accomplish, other than make you look petty, and troll the thread?

You should be wary.. Trump has attacked Gold Star families and disparaged a war hero .. and called dead veterans losers and suckers.. That should give you pause.

 

[White 6]

The Supreme Court finally put a stop to the court challenges today.

They threw out the last case trump has brought to that court.

So it's 0-4 on the court with his election challenges.

Thank goodness this is finally over. Hopefully the nation can move on from all the many lies.

Supreme Court rejects final Trump election challenge

Trump had appealed lower court rulings that upheld Wisconsin's handling of mail-in ballots. It was the last in a string of defeats before the court.

news.yahoo.com

Not sure the country will ever forgive and forget. If we did, we could end up with another trumpist down the road that could end our constitutional representative republic type of government in this country. You will remember, for the rest of your life, especially if any of the Senators that supported trying to overthrow the election after they lost are stupid enough to run for the presidency. It is time for a 3rd party, as Republicans in general will not be trusted, especially as they continue to make purges of anybody not of the trumpist mindset. You may not believe it Dana, but unless a viable 3rd party is assembled, you are going to miss the Republicans.

I've been a registered Independent since 1978.

I've voted a variety of parties through the decades.

I've posted many times on this board that I don't want the Republican Party to destroy itself. That we need two major parties in our nation for democracy to be able to exist. That the last thing we need is one major political party.

I'm not a democrat.

I'm a liberal. And proud of it. I have been all my life.

I hope that trump doesn't succeed in purging the Republican Party of the few sane people who are left.

I don't agree with much from today's Republican Party. I wish they would get their act together and stop trying to force their disastrous and failed economic and social policies on our nation.

Independence is good, as neither of the two main parties get it right, a lot of the time. As far as elected officials, the trump purges have worked and they appear to be at a tipping point, from which there is no return. With as many republicans that still support trump, even after his insurrection, they are presidential toast for the next 3 presidential elections at least, just to make sure to clear the anti-free election/insurrectionist crowd out, less they try it again.
I am moderate to conservative. I wish there were a rational conservative party to act as a counterbalance to unbridled liberalism, which (in my view) also could destroy the country. Good people are out there, but they would be stupid to try, under the republican banner.

Anyone who has read your posts would call you neither a moderate, nor conservative.

I understand your warped perspective. It is primarily due to the sliding scale of the radical right, and still thinking you are a conservative, while sliding more radically right during the last 12 - 20 years. Certainly nothing conservative about it, just paranoid.
It is conservative to build and take an active leadership role in coalitions of responsible traditional countries allies around the world, working with them to present a united front to guard against bad actors, despots, communists or dictatorial or autocratic regimes around the world, not ordering or demanding they dance strictly to our tune. We certainly should not be supporting rogue nations with unethical leaders such as Saudi Arabia and MLB. Nothing conservative about idolizing or admiring or elevating Putin or Kim on the world stage either, as they are what they are, have not changed and probably never will. Nothing conservative about continuing support of wars in the middle east or southwest Asia, that were blundered into by previous administrations and continued through republican and democrat administrations for a generation. There is not a single country on earth that we need to be conquering or consider conquering, but should simply be holding the line with our allies, so that democracy, self direction and liberty continue unabated for us, our allies and our posterity.
The current litmus tests of conservatism have been exaggerated to the point of stupidity. Free enterprise, private ownership and capitalism are the hallmarks and basis for our economic power and will be, but commitment to government benefit to welfare tax benefits to ultra rich without regard for the middle (almost non existent by current yardstick) and the poor is rediculous and self defeating, especially in healthcare and education. No other modern country is taking this approach, because it simply does not work, not for capitalist or socialist countries. Amazing that American made, patented drugs are cheaper across the border than here at home, isn't it? Amazing someone can get control of something like insulin production and simply spike the price point due to monopoly power, isn't it? Amazing that we used to have emergency rooms to handle emergencies, yet now in many places they are actually over crowded primary care for those that cannot afford healthcare due to lack of insurance and we now have trauma centers for real emergencies. Best healthcare on earth, if you can afford it. If not, well, we certainly do not lead the modern countries of the world in longevity, do we? We're not even in the top 20 or 30, last I looked. Feel free to look, yourself.
There is nothing conservative about blowing off modern inequities of success off to perceived or projected differences of race, either. Just a cheap cop out for white nationalist organizations to use, out of their own fears and inadequacies, in my book. The sudden acceptance of that movement to supposedly conservative politics and politicians is beyond me, unless recognized as part of the divide and conquer tactic du jour. Being secure, myself, I feel no fear or need to put down or conquer on that field of battle.
So, yes, I am somewhat conservative and definitely moderate or a voice for moderation in all things. I make no claim to have all the right answers, but recognize many of the wrong ones as instantly as I ever did. Only sound recommendation I can give, it to seek intelligent moderating leadership, using the best ideas of all people, from all walks of life, avoiding the belligerent rabble-rousers, appealing to our lowest common denominators to inflame their base. Just as I would advise, if flying commercial, avoid student pilots and recent fighter pilots, as radical (sometimes poorly planned) moves endanger everyone on the plane and make for a erratic flight with a lower chance of happy landings.

I'd address this massive, kitchen sink post if I weren't on my phone right now. But, needless to say, the short question for you is, if you're so wonderful, and have such a clear grasp on things, why are you in some anonymous message board, instead of running to foist your magnificence on the rest of us?

You obviously took the Evelyn Woodhead sped reading course, ye comprehension may still be lagging. What part of quote " I make no claim to have all the right answers, but recognize many of the wrong ones as instantly as I ever did.", did you fail to grasp?

 

[Mac1958]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

Not the first time the judiciary confounds the party that appointed them by actually standing up for precedent.

Fortunately most adults, especially at that level, possess the capacity to understand the gravity of their position, take it seriously, and grow into it.

Trump being a notable exception, obviously.

Now, what exactly did your post here accomplish, other than make you look petty, and troll the thread?

With you?

I don't care. Sorry.

 

[asaratis]

No surprise here. The SC was not going to get involved in this.

And now the Trumpsters are convinced that the United States Supreme Court is in on the conspiracy.

This is, literally, a madness.

I don’t think the SCOTUS is in on any conspiracy, however Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are huge disappointments.

A disappointment for people like you is a huge victory for all American loving Democrats and may those 49 repub senators who voted against covid relief burn in hell along with Trump

When Trump was President, the COVID relief bills were bi-partisan because the Republicans worked with the Democrats to compromise on the bills. When the Democrats have control, they go it alone, rejecting Republican input and crafting a partisan bill that gives BILLIONS of dollars of dollars to bailout funds from Blue states nearing bankruptcy because of the piss-poor, corrupt governments thereof. They gave billions more to foreign countries. They passed a 1.9 trillion dollar, lopsided bill with more funding for Democrat Party pork projects than for actual COVID relief. The would allow any Republican input to the writing of the or any Republican amendments to it.

Example: $112million for Bay Area Rapid Transit expansion (think; Nancy Pelosi)

HART: Dems fund liberal pork wish list in $1.9 trillion supposed “COVID Relief” bill

Famously summed up early in Obama’s administration by his Chicago hatchet man Rahm “Dead Fish” Emanuel, who said, “Never let a crisis go to waste,” Dems are borrowing a page from Obama’s playbook to frantically push their “COVID Relief Bill.”

www.oaoa.com

825Billion is about 44.7% of 1.9Trillion
The rest is Democrat Blue-State-Bailouts and Democrat Pork spending. That is what the Republicans voted against....as they should have.

The Republicans voted against the bullshit in the bill.

Screw the Democrat Party! Screw Joe Biden and his handlers! Screw Nancy Pelosi! Screw Chuckie Schumer! Screw Gerry "Jabba" Nadler!

 

[asaratis]

Don't you worry Trump is still playing the same old song as he has for the last five months about how he didn't lose.

Bitchillary has been doing that for over 4 YEARS! Hypocrisy rules the Democrat lovers!

Hillary is no longer on the scene. Trump is out for revenge. He want's to destroy the Republican party.

No he doesn't. He wants to get rid of the RINOs. So do I. So do a lot of Republicans.

The Democrat Party wants to make all other parties irrelevant by taking election rule making away from the state legislatures (an unconstitutional action) and allowing nationwide ballot harvesting, extended voting periods with no post mark deadlines, no signature requirements, no voter ID requirements, automatic registration of everybody, mandatory mass mail-in voting, no cleansing of registration records to remove dead people and people that have moved elsewhere, registration of 16 year old minors...essentially destroying the Republican Party's chances of ever winning another election.

Screw the Democrat Party!

Purging voter roles happens every couple of years.. Why don't you READ the statute on election rules? They have been poste repeatedly.

You are being foolish and willfully ignorant. ALL 50 states have certified their elections. Most Americans are decent and don't support lies and dumb accusations.. Not everybody thinks like Trump. Most people try to do their jobs in a bipartisan way. Trump has undermined Justice an our intelligence agencies and now he's undermining our elections.

Read HR1. The bill is unconstitutional and takes the rights of state legislatures regarding elections away. These rights are given to the states IN THE CONSTITUTION.

Why don't you read the US Constitution?

 

[bendog]

The Supreme Court finally put a stop to the court challenges today.

They threw out the last case trump has brought to that court.

So it's 0-4 on the court with his election challenges.

Thank goodness this is finally over. Hopefully the nation can move on from all the many lies.

Supreme Court rejects final Trump election challenge

Trump had appealed lower court rulings that upheld Wisconsin's handling of mail-in ballots. It was the last in a string of defeats before the court.

news.yahoo.com

Not sure the country will ever forgive and forget. If we did, we could end up with another trumpist down the road that could end our constitutional representative republic type of government in this country. You will remember, for the rest of your life, especially if any of the Senators that supported trying to overthrow the election after they lost are stupid enough to run for the presidency. It is time for a 3rd party, as Republicans in general will not be trusted, especially as they continue to make purges of anybody not of the trumpist mindset. You may not believe it Dana, but unless a viable 3rd party is assembled, you are going to miss the Republicans.

I've been a registered Independent since 1978.

I've voted a variety of parties through the decades.

I've posted many times on this board that I don't want the Republican Party to destroy itself. That we need two major parties in our nation for democracy to be able to exist. That the last thing we need is one major political party.

I'm not a democrat.

I'm a liberal. And proud of it. I have been all my life.

I hope that trump doesn't succeed in purging the Republican Party of the few sane people who are left.

I don't agree with much from today's Republican Party. I wish they would get their act together and stop trying to force their disastrous and failed economic and social policies on our nation.

Independence is good, as neither of the two main parties get it right, a lot of the time. As far as elected officials, the trump purges have worked and they appear to be at a tipping point, from which there is no return. With as many republicans that still support trump, even after his insurrection, they are presidential toast for the next 3 presidential elections at least, just to make sure to clear the anti-free election/insurrectionist crowd out, less they try it again.
I am moderate to conservative. I wish there were a rational conservative party to act as a counterbalance to unbridled liberalism, which (in my view) also could destroy the country. Good people are out there, but they would be stupid to try, under the republican banner.

Anyone who has read your posts would call you neither a moderate, nor conservative.

I understand your warped perspective. It is primarily due to the sliding scale of the radical right, and still thinking you are a conservative, while sliding more radically right during the last 12 - 20 years. Certainly nothing conservative about it, just paranoid.
It is conservative to build and take an active leadership role in coalitions of responsible traditional countries allies around the world, working with them to present a united front to guard against bad actors, despots, communists or dictatorial or autocratic regimes around the world, not ordering or demanding they dance strictly to our tune. We certainly should not be supporting rogue nations with unethical leaders such as Saudi Arabia and MLB. Nothing conservative about idolizing or admiring or elevating Putin or Kim on the world stage either, as they are what they are, have not changed and probably never will. Nothing conservative about continuing support of wars in the middle east or southwest Asia, that were blundered into by previous administrations and continued through republican and democrat administrations for a generation. There is not a single country on earth that we need to be conquering or consider conquering, but should simply be holding the line with our allies, so that democracy, self direction and liberty continue unabated for us, our allies and our posterity.
The current litmus tests of conservatism have been exaggerated to the point of stupidity. Free enterprise, private ownership and capitalism are the hallmarks and basis for our economic power and will be, but commitment to government benefit to welfare tax benefits to ultra rich without regard for the middle (almost non existent by current yardstick) and the poor is rediculous and self defeating, especially in healthcare and education. No other modern country is taking this approach, because it simply does not work, not for capitalist or socialist countries. Amazing that American made, patented drugs are cheaper across the border than here at home, isn't it? Amazing someone can get control of something like insulin production and simply spike the price point due to monopoly power, isn't it? Amazing that we used to have emergency rooms to handle emergencies, yet now in many places they are actually over crowded primary care for those that cannot afford healthcare due to lack of insurance and we now have trauma centers for real emergencies. Best healthcare on earth, if you can afford it. If not, well, we certainly do not lead the modern countries of the world in longevity, do we? We're not even in the top 20 or 30, last I looked. Feel free to look, yourself.
There is nothing conservative about blowing off modern inequities of success off to perceived or projected differences of race, either. Just a cheap cop out for white nationalist organizations to use, out of their own fears and inadequacies, in my book. The sudden acceptance of that movement to supposedly conservative politics and politicians is beyond me, unless recognized as part of the divide and conquer tactic du jour. Being secure, myself, I feel no fear or need to put down or conquer on that field of battle.
So, yes, I am somewhat conservative and definitely moderate or a voice for moderation in all things. I make no claim to have all the right answers, but recognize many of the wrong ones as instantly as I ever did. Only sound recommendation I can give, it to seek intelligent moderating leadership, using the best ideas of all people, from all walks of life, avoiding the belligerent rabble-rousers, appealing to our lowest common denominators to inflame their base. Just as I would advise, if flying commercial, avoid student pilots and recent fighter pilots, as radical (sometimes poorly planned) moves endanger everyone on the plane and make for a erratic flight with a lower chance of happy landings.

Reagan and Goldwater would be "rinos." And Trump was for tariffs. Go figure. I'm reminded of Reagan's quip
Quote by Ronald Reagan: “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democr...” (goodreads.com)

Meanwhile, as I look for a "new used car" I find a lexus "manufactured" in Kentucky. LOL

 

[easyt65]

Chief Justice Roberts has forfeited the USSC's responsibilities to protect / defend / uphold the Constitution by acknowledging Democrats violated bothstate and federal Constitutions and election laws in the middle of an election right before he declared the USSC would not hear the case.

His rejection of hearing this final case without offering any comment as to why is just more evidence of his refusal to do his Constitutional duty.

Roberts has proved several times he no longer does so, but this is the greatest evidence yet.

 

[my2¢]

I'm guessing this is the appeal of the Wisconsin case in which a Tump appointed District Judge ruled on the matter....

“A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred. This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits. In his reply brief, plaintiff ‘asks that the Rule of Law be followed.’ … It has been.”

Trump Wisconsin lawsuit dismissed by federal judge (jsonline.com)​

 

[easyt65]

I'm guessing this is the appeal of the Wisconsin case in which a Tump appointed District Judge ruled on the matter....

“A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred. This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits. In his reply brief, plaintiff ‘asks that the Rule of Law be followed.’ … It has been.”

Trump Wisconsin lawsuit dismissed by federal judge (jsonline.com)​

In Pa, however, Roberts acknowledged both state and federal Constitutions and election laws were violated.....

 

[White 6]

Chief Justice Roberts has forfeited the USSC's responsibilities to protect / defend / uphold the Constitution by acknowledging Democrats violated bothstate and federal Constitutions and election laws in the middle of an election right before he declared the USSC would not hear the case.

His rejection of hearing this final case without offering any comment as to why is just more evidence of his refusal to do his Constitutional duty.

Roberts has proved several times he no longer does so, but this is the greatest evidence yet.

You can look at that way if you wish, but it is telling to note, it was done without descent of a single member of the whole Supreme Court.