Supreme Court Rules 7-2 on Obamacare

[Donald H]

A huge hit to Trump by his 'loaded' Scotus.

Complete 'crazy' won't go the distance for Trump. Between this and the positive spin for Biden with Putin, this is Trump's worst day since the voters took him down.

Trump's supporters on this board are now isolated background noise.

 

[SavannahMann]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

I think it's a very good thing that we still have Obamacare.

In fact, I think we should do away with insurance companies for health care.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

We have some people who can have health care without being bankrupted or have insurance premiums that aren't astronomical. It's not fair that some people have proper insurance that is affordable and others don't here in the United States.

Our health care system is a total mess.

I've spent way too much time discussing the merits, or lack thereof, of ACA. It's corporatist shitshow throughout.

But, outside it's corruption and the blatant violation of Constitutional limits on government, the ACA does not have broad consensus. It was passed on strict partisan lines and will be a political football going forward, constantly torn and twisted as successive administrations get their hands on it.

You've managed to put politicians in charge of our health care. Congrats.

As one who has battled the Insurance Companies before. And will again. It is honestly not a concern of mine. Frankly the longer I spend trying to get the insurance companies to care for my wife as they are supposed to, the better Single Payer sounds.

Every month it is a battle over meds. They wanted some changed before they would cover. The meds were changed. And the insurance company still won’t cover them.

Therapy. Oh she would appear to qualify on paper. But in reality not so much. The Insurance Company operates on a simple business plan. Take money in, never pay any out if it can be avoided.

This has been going on for years. Predating the ACA. Nothing has changed. So bring on single payer. Chances are the care would not improve and the covered items wouldn’t improve. But a bunch of insurance companies would go bankrupt and close their doors for good. And that would be a good thing.

Oh. And despite voting for Obama, I was not in favor of the ACA. That is part of the reasons why I point out that the Republicans were right when they said that care should be between you and your Doctor. Because right now it’s between me and my Doctor with the Insurance company always saying.

 

[AntonToo]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

I think it's a very good thing that we still have Obamacare.

In fact, I think we should do away with insurance companies for health care.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

We have some people who can have health care without being bankrupted or have insurance premiums that aren't astronomical. It's not fair that some people have proper insurance that is affordable and others don't here in the United States.

Our health care system is a total mess.

Robert Creamer is a political consultant who wrote over 600 pages of Obamacare while in prison for tax violations and bank fraud.

Insurance rates and deductible are soaring and the exchanges are failing. Jonathan Gruber, the one labeled as the "architect" - who said they relied on stupid American voters to get Obamacare passed - claims that the plan is working as designed. Huh, imagine that.

Wow, great plan! Lie to Americans to pass a bill that's destroying health care so everyone has to rely on the government. Typical Democrat policy.

No problem, Republicans will fix that travesty as soon as they have the Presidency, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court...oh wait.

Just because Republicans are too weak-spined to stand up to the anti-American left doesn't mean that Obamacare is good for America.

What vile filth you are, putting your political ideology ahead of Americans. Typical leftist twit.

No dummy, it means that their "fixing" was even worse than what they were saying needs fixing.

It's easy to talk shit about a policy, but when it come time to put up a better alternative your side had nothing Americans would be even close to supporting.

I get it. You hate America and want more free stuff.

Wrong again moron, I love America and probably pay more in taxes than your whole salary.

So why don't you take your silly drivel and shove it up your ass.

 

[Astrostar]

Affordable Care Act Survives Latest Supreme Court Challenge (Published 2021)

The court sidestepped the larger issue in the case, whether the 2010 health care law can stand without a provision that required most Americans to obtain insurance or pay a penalty.

www.nytimes.com

Affordable Care Act Survives Latest Supreme Court Challenge​

The court sidestepped the larger issue in the case, whether the 2010 health care law can stand without a provision that required most Americans to obtain insurance or pay a penalty.

In the years since the enactment of the law in 2010, Republicans have worked hard to destroy it, and President Donald J. Trump relentlessly criticized it. But attempts to repeal it failed, as did two earlier Supreme Court challenges, in 2012 and 2015. With the passing years, the law gained in popularity and was woven into the fabric of the health care system. Its future now seems secure.

A ruling against the law would also have doomed its protections for Americans with past or current health problems — or pre-existing conditions. The protections bar insurers from denying them coverage or charging them more for it.

Major defeat for Scumpty; it was his signature campaign promise, to repeal Obamacare and replace it "with something better." Problem was, he couldn't come up with something better. Had he worked harder and perhaps gave up a few rounds of golf, perhaps he could have come up with something better. Yeah, right! Bigly!!!

Obamacare is still here, Collin Kapernick is making millions in sponsorship, Biden has 60% approval ratings, and the orange loser has been impeached twice, and facing indictment.

Bad year for trumphumpers

Woa, back off a bit, August is coming when Trump will be "reinstated," and the faithful will proclaim "He is risen!" Bigly

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

I think it's a very good thing that we still have Obamacare.

In fact, I think we should do away with insurance companies for health care.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

We have some people who can have health care without being bankrupted or have insurance premiums that aren't astronomical. It's not fair that some people have proper insurance that is affordable and others don't here in the United States.

Our health care system is a total mess.

Robert Creamer is a political consultant who wrote over 600 pages of Obamacare while in prison for tax violations and bank fraud.

Insurance rates and deductible are soaring and the exchanges are failing. Jonathan Gruber, the one labeled as the "architect" - who said they relied on stupid American voters to get Obamacare passed - claims that the plan is working as designed. Huh, imagine that.

Wow, great plan! Lie to Americans to pass a bill that's destroying health care so everyone has to rely on the government. Typical Democrat policy.

No problem, Republicans will fix that travesty as soon as they have the Presidency, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court...oh wait.

Just because Republicans are too weak-spined to stand up to the anti-American left doesn't mean that Obamacare is good for America.

What vile filth you are, putting your political ideology ahead of Americans. Typical leftist twit.

No dummy, it means that their "fixing" was even worse than what they were saying needs fixing.

It's easy to talk shit about a policy, but when it come time to put up a better alternative your side had nothing Americans would be even close to supporting.

I get it. You hate America and want more free stuff. You think by pretending that one party is far superior to the other you don't have to face that you're a useful idiot.

A truly better alternative would to be leave it to the states. You know, as prescribed in the US Constitution. Instead, like the slave to the big state you are, you ignore the very principles upon which America was founded.

And FYI, I know this is a really big struggle to understand for someone with severely limited critical thinking skills, but just because I see the Democrats as the domestic enemies of the US Constitution I took an oath to defend against, doesn't mean I'm a Republican. But that can't be! Thanks for the laughs!

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Did Benji say this before or after he demanded "government" establish post offices, roads, etc??

Why didn't they just leave that stuff to the states......

PS -- the states are still "America" -- so this bullshit talking point about "leave it up to the states" is as full of shit as when Conservatives wanted to leave the issue of slavery up to the states

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You can enact the legislation. The Supreme Court can uphold it. However, you can NEVER make me use Government Healthcare.

I”LL DIE FIRST!!!!

The ACA isn't government healthcare.

 

[Blenda]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

I think it's a very good thing that we still have Obamacare.

In fact, I think we should do away with insurance companies for health care.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

We have some people who can have health care without being bankrupted or have insurance premiums that aren't astronomical. It's not fair that some people have proper insurance that is affordable and others don't here in the United States.

Our health care system is a total mess.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

and you think Medicare is any different?...

Anybody holding up signs like this demanding any healthcare plan Republicans proposed??View attachment 502413

For Medicare to be just like private insurance companies -- there sure seems to be a lot of historically popular bipartisan support for it over the last 60 or so years....

Why, exactly should ANYONE in Congress propose giving the federal goverment more power? Why do you support a bigger, more bloated government with the power to control even your health? Why would any red blooded patriot support creating an even bigger government directly against the founding principle of limited government? Of federalism?

It's truly astounding how narrow minded you leftist twits are. "We want free stuff - that really costs us far more both financially and in our physical health - and other stupid, selfish people like us want "free" stuff paid for by others. What freebies do you have to offer? None? Then you fail!"

You tried to prove the superiority of the left's policies and all you did was prove you're a government leech.

So you acknowledge that when Trump campaigned on having a better and more affordable healthcare plan that would cover everyone....he was just bullshitting...got it...

Tell you what.....every Republican running for office should campaign next time on repealing Medicare....I'm sure it would be a winning campaign promise...

Considering that the America First movement and the Convention of States are exploding in popularity, and that many are starting to actual read what is written in our founding documents, yes. I do think it would be wise to run on giving states back the power the federal goverment took from them.

The states created the federal goverment. Not the other way around. There are not one, but TWO Amendments in the Bill of Rights directly related to the power divide between the states and the federal government. They reiterate that the states have the bulk of the power.

In fact, one of the best ways to reduce the cost of health insurance is allow companies to compete across state lines and tort reform. Which can and needs to be done at the state level.

The federal goverment has never done anything well nor has it ever saved a dime. Quit being a sheep looking to be taken care of by people who see you as nothing but a pawn.

Or you can keep amusing me with your idiotic justications for more government control. Your choice, both are a win for me!

 

[otto105]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

It's over.

Move On.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

I think it's a very good thing that we still have Obamacare.

In fact, I think we should do away with insurance companies for health care.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

We have some people who can have health care without being bankrupted or have insurance premiums that aren't astronomical. It's not fair that some people have proper insurance that is affordable and others don't here in the United States.

Our health care system is a total mess.

Most people in America can't stand insurance companies controlling what health care they can have and denying to pay medical bills.

and you think Medicare is any different?...

Anybody holding up signs like this demanding any healthcare plan Republicans proposed??View attachment 502413

For Medicare to be just like private insurance companies -- there sure seems to be a lot of historically popular bipartisan support for it over the last 60 or so years....

Why, exactly should ANYONE in Congress propose giving the federal goverment more power? Why do you support a bigger, more bloated government with the power to control even your health? Why would any red blooded patriot support creating an even bigger government directly against the founding principle of limited government? Of federalism?

It's truly astounding how narrow minded you leftist twits are. "We want free stuff - that really costs us far more both financially and in our physical health - and other stupid, selfish people like us want "free" stuff paid for by others. What freebies do you have to offer? None? Then you fail!"

You tried to prove the superiority of the left's policies and all you did was prove you're a government leech.

So you acknowledge that when Trump campaigned on having a better and more affordable healthcare plan that would cover everyone....he was just bullshitting...got it...

Tell you what.....every Republican running for office should campaign next time on repealing Medicare....I'm sure it would be a winning campaign promise...

Considering that the America First movement and the Convention of States are exploding in popularity, and that many are starting to actual read what is written in our founding documents, yes. I do think it would be wise to run on giving states back the power the federal goverment took from them.

The states created the federal goverment. Not the other way around. There are not one, but TWO Amendments in the Bill of Rights directly related to the power divide between the states and the federal government. They reiterate that the states have the bulk of the power.

In fact, one of the best ways to reduce the cost of health insurance is allow companies to compete across state lines and tort reform. Which can and needs to be done at the state level.

The federal goverment has never done anything well nor has it ever saved a dime. Quit being a sheep looking to be taken care of by people who see you as nothing but a pawn.

Or you can keep amusing me with your idiotic justications for more government control. Your choice, both are a win for me!

"The government has never done anything well" is another popular Conservative talking point

That is why they invest billions into being elected to that "government" they despise so much......

It's almost as if they want a chance to show us all how government never does anything well.....when they are in charge......

Maybe they should stay out of government

 

[Claudette]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

You can enact the legislation. The Supreme Court can uphold it. However, you can NEVER make me use Government Healthcare.

I”LL DIE FIRST!!!!

The ACA isn't government healthcare.

These people want to be oppressed so bad......

 

[otto105]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

That's truly a shame. The Court is a joke. I just hope Manchin keeps his finger in the dam. Otherwise, we're all fucked.

Yeah, providing much needed healthcare is a travesty....

 

[otto105]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

Provide for the common welfare....

 

[d0gbreath]

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

Health insurance hadn't been invented yet, like so many other things that weren't around when it was written, you Constitutional scholar you.

 

[Claudette]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

Provide for the common welfare....

There is no health care in the constitution. You think the FF even thought of health care??

Common welfare means everyone has the same chance to be all they can be. It has nothing to do with HC which you won't fine anywhere in the Constitution.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

 

[Claudette]

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

Health insurance hadn't been invented yet, like so many other things that weren't around when it was written, you Constitutional scholar you.

I'd say you are the constitutional scholar because you see just what I see.

 

[dblack]

It was just announced that the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Obamacare saying the states don't have standing on this case.

So Obamacare stays.

For now.

Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge

Two of Trump's three appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, joined the majority opinion, while the third, Neil Gorsuch, dissented.

www.nbcnews.com

Another loss for Trump and his minions. THE BIGGEST LOSERS IN THE HISTORY OF POLITICS.

Republicans never seriously opposed ACA. They were just grandstanding. At the end of the day, they want to be in control of health care as much as the Democrats do.

 

[Claudette]

Republicans and Conservatives lose again.

No. Working Americans loose again. The only people who like Obamacare are those the rest of us are paying for.

If Renquist had still been alive and Chief Justice of the SC, Obamacare would have been kicked to the curb. Right where it belongs.

So, please thrill us with your idea of "something better."

HC should be kicked back to the private sector where it belongs. Check the Constitution. You won't find health care anywhere in the Constitution.

You won't find lots of things in the Constitution.......but that is an extremely childish justification for not wanting more people to have health care....

But anyhoo....The first federal public healthcare law was signed in 1798....by one of those "Founders" you love to worship.....was he a socialist marxist??

You want health care then you buy it like everyone else does. You want to pay for someone else's health care then be my guest.

 

[Jets]

PPACA was supposed to be repealed and replaced during the last administration. What happened?