Supreme Court Upholds Republican Group's 'right To Lie'

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Judge: Ohio won't bust lying politicians
Chrissie Thompson
September 11, 2014

A federal judge has struck down Ohio's law forbidding lies in political campaigns, saying voters -- not the government -- should decide whether a campaign is telling the truth.

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The conflict that led to the suit dates back to 2010.

The national anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List planned to buy a billboard accusing then-U.S. Rep. Steve Driehaus of supporting taxpayer-funded abortions. Their logic? He voted in favor of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Driehaus said the allegation was a lie – he, in fact, ran as an anti-abortion Democrat – and filed a complaint with the Ohio Elections Commission. With the threat of legal action looming, the billboard owner decided not to run the ad. Driehaus dropped his complaint after he lost his re-election bid, but not before the commission found "probable cause" in a preliminary review that Susan B. Anthony List had violated the state law.

The organization [Susan B. Anthony List] used the case to challenge the constitutionality of the political lies ban. The Southwest Ohio anti-tax group Coalition Against Additional Spending and Taxes joined in, saying that it, too, had wanted to criticize Driehaus but didn't for fear of running afoul of the law.

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Whoda thunk-----whoda thunk, Republicans feel they need to sue-----sue to ensure their right to dupe their LIV's?

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[Rikurzhen]

So why isn't Obama impeached or in prison?

 

[Boatswain2PA]

Sounds like it was a dishonest ad, and if it was then shame on the person or group who tried to run it.

However having a law agains telling a lie then puts the government in charge of defining what is true and what is not....and that wouldn't work so well in the long run.

Same deal with Sent Reid's draft constitutional amendment.

 

[mdk]

Good. It was uncommonly silly law. The vast and overwhelming of the candidates in Ohio would have been in violation anyway.

And to be fair this law was passed in 1995 by Ohio's House and Senate which at the time was controlled by the GOP.

 

[Two Thumbs]

if msn had to follow that law it would be 24/7 of people sitting in front of a camera

 

[Meathead]

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Judge: Ohio won't bust lying politicians
Chrissie Thompson
September 11, 2014

A federal judge has struck down Ohio's law forbidding lies in political campaigns, saying voters -- not the government -- should decide whether a campaign is telling the truth.

<snip>

The conflict that led to the suit dates back to 2010.

The national anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List planned to buy a billboard accusing then-U.S. Rep. Steve Driehaus of supporting taxpayer-funded abortions. Their logic? He voted in favor of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Driehaus said the allegation was a lie – he, in fact, ran as an anti-abortion Democrat – and filed a complaint with the Ohio Elections Commission. With the threat of legal action looming, the billboard owner decided not to run the ad. Driehaus dropped his complaint after he lost his re-election bid, but not before the commission found "probable cause" in a preliminary review that Susan B. Anthony List had violated the state law.

The organization [Susan B. Anthony List] used the case to challenge the constitutionality of the political lies ban. The Southwest Ohio anti-tax group Coalition Against Additional Spending and Taxes joined in, saying that it, too, had wanted to criticize Driehaus but didn't for fear of running afoul of the law.

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Whoda thunk-----whoda thunk, Republicans feel they need to sue-----sue to ensure their right to dupe their LIV's?

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You're a dingbat!

 

[Star]

Sounds like it was a dishonest ad, and if it was then shame on the person or group who tried to run it.

However having a law agains telling a lie then puts the government in charge of defining what is true and what is not....and that wouldn't work so well in the long run.

Same deal with Sent Reid's draft constitutional amendment.

In a 2003 lawsuit Fox News admitted that they lie and distort the news...

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Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox “Investigators” team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise.

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Fox insisted Akre and Wilson to use false statements. Akre and Wilson refused to lie. Fox fired the reporters.

Akre and Wilson sued the Fox station and on August 18, 2000, a Florida jury unanimously decided that Akre was wrongfully fired by Fox Television when she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) “a false, distorted or slanted story” about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows. They further maintained that she deserved protection under Florida's whistle blower law. Akre was awarded a $425,000 settlement. Inexplicably, however, the court decided that Steve Wilson, her partner in the case, was ruled not wronged by the same actions taken by FOX.

FOX appealed the case, and on February 14, 2003 the Florida Second District Court of Appeals unanimously overturned the settlement awarded to Akre. The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted “law, rule, or regulation." In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy." Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly. (Anybody surprised this happened in Florida?)

During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.


Are you implying that we should trust the media to self-police their truthiness?

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[Meathead]

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Judge: Ohio won't bust lying politicians
Chrissie Thompson
September 11, 2014

A federal judge has struck down Ohio's law forbidding lies in political campaigns, saying voters -- not the government -- should decide whether a campaign is telling the truth.

<snip>

The conflict that led to the suit dates back to 2010.

The national anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List planned to buy a billboard accusing then-U.S. Rep. Steve Driehaus of supporting taxpayer-funded abortions. Their logic? He voted in favor of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Driehaus said the allegation was a lie – he, in fact, ran as an anti-abortion Democrat – and filed a complaint with the Ohio Elections Commission. With the threat of legal action looming, the billboard owner decided not to run the ad. Driehaus dropped his complaint after he lost his re-election bid, but not before the commission found "probable cause" in a preliminary review that Susan B. Anthony List had violated the state law.

The organization [Susan B. Anthony List] used the case to challenge the constitutionality of the political lies ban. The Southwest Ohio anti-tax group Coalition Against Additional Spending and Taxes joined in, saying that it, too, had wanted to criticize Driehaus but didn't for fear of running afoul of the law.

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Whoda thunk-----whoda thunk, Republicans feel they need to sue-----sue to ensure their right to dupe their LIV's?

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You're a dingbat!

You're still a dingbat! The asshole was a Democrat.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

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Judge: Ohio won't bust lying politicians
Chrissie Thompson
September 11, 2014

A federal judge has struck down Ohio's law forbidding lies in political campaigns, saying voters -- not the government -- should decide whether a campaign is telling the truth.

<snip>

The conflict that led to the suit dates back to 2010.

The national anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List planned to buy a billboard accusing then-U.S. Rep. Steve Driehaus of supporting taxpayer-funded abortions. Their logic? He voted in favor of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Driehaus said the allegation was a lie – he, in fact, ran as an anti-abortion Democrat – and filed a complaint with the Ohio Elections Commission. With the threat of legal action looming, the billboard owner decided not to run the ad. Driehaus dropped his complaint after he lost his re-election bid, but not before the commission found "probable cause" in a preliminary review that Susan B. Anthony List had violated the state law.

The organization [Susan B. Anthony List] used the case to challenge the constitutionality of the political lies ban. The Southwest Ohio anti-tax group Coalition Against Additional Spending and Taxes joined in, saying that it, too, had wanted to criticize Driehaus but didn't for fear of running afoul of the law.

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Whoda thunk-----whoda thunk, Republicans feel they need to sue-----sue to ensure their right to dupe their LIV's?

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Good thing he did, or you could be arrested for posting this outright lie.

 

[Star]

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Judge: Ohio won't bust lying politicians
Chrissie Thompson
September 11, 2014

A federal judge has struck down Ohio's law forbidding lies in political campaigns, saying voters -- not the government -- should decide whether a campaign is telling the truth.

<snip>

The conflict that led to the suit dates back to 2010.

The national anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List planned to buy a billboard accusing then-U.S. Rep. Steve Driehaus of supporting taxpayer-funded abortions. Their logic? He voted in favor of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Driehaus said the allegation was a lie – he, in fact, ran as an anti-abortion Democrat – and filed a complaint with the Ohio Elections Commission. With the threat of legal action looming, the billboard owner decided not to run the ad. Driehaus dropped his complaint after he lost his re-election bid, but not before the commission found "probable cause" in a preliminary review that Susan B. Anthony List had violated the state law.

The organization [Susan B. Anthony List] used the case to challenge the constitutionality of the political lies ban. The Southwest Ohio anti-tax group Coalition Against Additional Spending and Taxes joined in, saying that it, too, had wanted to criticize Driehaus but didn't for fear of running afoul of the law.

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Whoda thunk-----whoda thunk, Republicans feel they need to sue-----sue to ensure their right to dupe their LIV's?

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Good thing he did, or you could be arrested for posting this outright lie.

How so? 'splain if you've got something to say.
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[Quantum Windbag]

How so? 'splain if you've got something to say.
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The Supreme Court did not decide this case, and it had nothing to do with lying.

 

[Cav Scout]

Holy hell! Politicians lie! Damn, next you are going to tell me lawyers lie too...











Oh wait, most politicians are lawyers....

 

[Stephanie]

boy they can't wait to step on our freedoms of speech

 

[Stephanie]

dailykos told a lie just with that stupid title
they should be shut down

 

[R.C. Christian]

We already have provisions on libel etc. I don't see how lying shouldn't be 1st amendment protected. Cops, for example, are allowed to lie but suspects can be prosecuted for doing the same. I believe the same rules should apply to everyone.

Barry has lied every day of his pathetic life and he get's a pass so why not a pass for this?

 

[Cav Scout]

We already have provisions on libel etc. I don't see how lying shouldn't be 1st amendment protected. Cops, for example, are allowed to lie but suspects can be prosecuted for doing the same. I believe the same rules should apply to everyone.

Barry has lied every day of his pathetic life and he get's a pass so why not a pass for this?

Don't crush the drama of a dumb thread man!

 

[Star]

Seeing what the Republican wing of the USMB has to say on this thread, it's no wonder that the Republican party is the only party that has asked the Supreme court to cover their asses for lying their asses off.
Can that be right, only Republicans find their message so unappealing to the American electorate that they're willing to go all the way to the Supreme Court multiple times to ensure their right to deceive the public?
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[Cav Scout]

Seeing what the Republican wing of the USMB has to say on this thread, it's no wonder that the Republican party is the only party that has asked the Supreme court to cover their asses for lying their asses off.
Can that be right, only Republicans find their message so unappealing to the American electorate that they're willing to go all the way to the Supreme Court multiple times to ensure their right to deceive the public?
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Hahaha!

How many times has the current admin been slapped down by the SCOTUS? Oh and the ACA was not a Tax?

 

[Rikurzhen]

Seeing what the Republican wing of the USMB has to say on this thread, it's no wonder that the Republican party is the only party that has asked the Supreme court to cover their asses for lying their asses off.
Can that be right, only Republicans find their message so unappealing to the American electorate that they're willing to go all the way to the Supreme Court multiple times to ensure their right to deceive the public?
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I'm pretty sure you must have missed comment #2 because I didn't see your response to that comment. What is your response to that comment?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A federal judge has struck down Ohio's law forbidding lies in political campaigns, saying voters -- not the government -- should decide whether a campaign is telling the truth.


True, as government has no monopoly on what constitutes the truth.


And of course without the benefit of their Constitutional right to lie, republicans would be completely lost.