Syria is giving Hezbollah "Game-Changing" weapons

[Billo_Really]

yes so if we are with the alqeada

After fighting them for 10 years as our enemy in the GWOT, they're now our ally in Syria!

Do you think that makes any sense?

Do you see anything wrong with that picture?

we are in a proxy war with Russia

We're gonna be in a real one if we don't stop meddling in that country's personal affairs. Russia's made it clear they will not allow Syria to come under the control of NATO. That is the line in the sand they drew and it's not one we should cross. Because if we do, it won't be suicide bombers we'll have to worry about, it'll be real bombers, with real bombs (same ones we carry) and enough nukes to barbacue this country in less than a half-hour. Going toe-to-toe with Russia, could lead to the possibility the end of all life on planet earth.

so much for the reset (over charge) button

that we handed them early on

I don't understand what you're saying here.

 

[skye]

This transfer of weapons from Russia to Syria ( and Hezbollah of course) is the most disturbing news coming out from the region. More on this.... it's not looking good


MAY 17, 2013

"U.S. officials told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday that another round of Israeli airstrikes could target a new Russian transfer of advanced anti-ship missiles in the near future. Israeli and Western intelligence services believe the Yakhont missiles, which have been sold by Russia to Syria in recent years, could be transferred to Hezbollah within days, the newspaper reported on its website Friday."


Report: New Israeli Airstrikes Could Target Russian Transfer of Advanced Anti-Ship Missiles

 

[Connery]

We sure better hope not. It's far too late for that now. NATO and the US have dithered around so long now that the only outcome of the Syrian civil war will be a generation of self-immolation and a fractured, non-state which falls into a Somalia kind of chaos as different groups jockey for position and territory. There are so many different groups fighting Assad now, with so many different supporters and agendas, that a military involvement now at this late date couldn't help but result in another crushing defeat of the West.

Because of domestic considerations, mostly in the US and France, we never picked a winner and backed them to the hilt. Now, we don't know who to pick and run the risk of either backing the wrong group or of yielding to frustration and trying to do it ourselves.

Obama has had a pretty good foreign policy record up to this point, but in Syria, he's really fucked up....badly.

How has Obama messed this up. Syria's leadership and decision have caused the ruination of this country. "Syria's national production has dropped by 40% and the number of people living below the poverty line has risen from two million to five million in just two years, according to the man in charge of the UN's plans for reconstructing Syria after the conflict.

Russia is one of Syria's few remaining allies and a long-term arms supplier to the Assad regime. Over the years, in contracts worth billions of dollars, it has sold thousands of tanks, artillery units, aircraft, helicopters and defence systems to Damascus."

BBC News - Syria crisis: US rues Russian missiles sent to Damascus

I believe Assad is the one to blame here.

Assad may be to blame indirectly. After all, if it weren't for his rule, there would have been no rebellion to begin with.

But, once the rebellion started and Assad didn't conveniently step out of the way, we didn't know what to do. Even Obama isn't so blind that he can't see what happened in the aftermath of Libya and Egypt, and he's had the GOP riding his ass about both of those involvements since day one. Additionally, we can't afford to fight another war right now and there's just no public stomach for it.

So, we've basically done nothing, perhaps waiting for a "good" alternative to arise out of the opposition, but in the meantime, Iran and Russia have been actively engaged in prolonging the war by propping up Assad for their own reasons, none of which have anything to do with Assad himself. Now, we've got the Israeli's becoming VERY nervous and starting to take unilateral action.

I said when this war started that it had the potential to initiate WWIII and I stand by that statement. It's becoming more likely every day that a miscalculation or mistake by somebody could bring on a NATO/Russia or NATO/Iran-Russia-China confrontation at the drop of a hat.

This is probably the most volatile and dangerous situation we've seen in that part of the world since AT LEAST the Yom Kippur War when the world teetered on the brink of a nuclear holocaust.

I do not think it is a case of not knowing what to do. It was premature to act upon the inception of the civil war. The players involved Russia who is a staunch ally of Syria. Should the US have acted unilaterally it is more likely WWIII would have started already, at worst. Just think how the US would react if Russia overtly interfered with Israel and Palestine.

 

[jon_berzerk]

yes so if we are with the alqeada

After fighting them for 10 years as our enemy in the GWOT, they're now our ally in Syria!

Do you think that makes any sense?

Do you see anything wrong with that picture?

we are in a proxy war with Russia

We're gonna be in a real one if we don't stop meddling in that country's personal affairs. Russia's made it clear they will not allow Syria to come under the control of NATO. That is the line in the sand they drew and it's not one we should cross. Because if we do, it won't be suicide bombers we'll have to worry about, it'll be real bombers, with real bombs (same ones we carry) and enough nukes to barbacue this country in less than a half-hour. Going toe-to-toe with Russia, could lead to the possibility the end of all life on planet earth.

so much for the reset (over charge) button

that we handed them early on

I don't understand what you're saying here.

in one of the admins earliest gaffes

hillary met with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov

and presented him with a box with a red button which was supposed to say "reset"

however they messed up and wrote in russian "overcharge"

the russians has been playing the admin from day one


--LOL

but you are right we have no business supplying alqeada with weapons

it makes absolutely no sense to do so

 

[georgephillip]

It makes a great deal of sense if you look at it from the War is a Racket perspective.
Wesley Clark predicted some of what we are seeing in Syria today in his 2003 book:

"'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.'"

The US has a war addiction and those addicted to war require an endless supply of credible enemies.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia