Syria is not worth a war with Russia

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Assad is as reprehensible as a being can be. That he is willing to sacrifice his people just to remain head of state is another disgusting example of the abuse of power. Unfortunately, there have been and are many men like him. Eliminating him would not end that, and might not even end the suffering of the Syrians.
The consequences of major conflict between the U.S. and Russia are enormous. It is something to be considered only in the most dire of situations.
Syria is a horrible mess, but it does not justify what would happen in the event of wide scale conflict between two powers such as America and Russia.
 
Assad is as reprehensible as a being can be. That he is willing to sacrifice his people just to remain head of state is another disgusting example of the abuse of power. Unfortunately, there have been and are many men like him. Eliminating him would not end that, and might not even end the suffering of the Syrians.
The consequences of major conflict between the U.S. and Russia are enormous. It is something to be considered only in the most dire of situations.
Syria is a horrible mess, but it does not justify what would happen in the event of wide scale conflict between two powers such as America and Russia.

Nor was Czechoslovakia with Germany.
 
The United States Navy sent one Guided Missile Destroyer to Syria to get things straightened out. Russia don't stand a chance and the DDG will shoot down MIGs. I pity the folly of the Ruskies.
 
no war in the Old World is worth it.


we should declare our neutrality and let them slaughter each other. It's their greatest tradition.
It`s hard to justify our military budget if we`re not blowing up a country now and then.
 
no war in the Old World is worth it.


we should declare our neutrality and let them slaughter each other. It's their greatest tradition.
It`s hard to justify our military budget if we`re not blowing up a country now and then.
we should invade canaduh

most of us know which way to go
If Canada was a poor country full of dark skinned people we would have invaded a long time ago. Unless of course they had the ability to resist.
 
no war in the Old World is worth it.


we should declare our neutrality and let them slaughter each other. It's their greatest tradition.
It`s hard to justify our military budget if we`re not blowing up a country now and then.
we should invade canaduh

most of us know which way to go
If Canada was a poor country full of dark skinned people we would have invaded a long time ago. Unless of course they had the ability to resist.


Like Germany. Brown people that couldn't fight back.
 
The situation cannot be compared to the world of 1939.
The Russians aren't crazy, but they're not exceptionally brilliant either, at least not Putin. What he might do to promote himself and his pride/power is uncertain. If he wants the ball (Syria), it would be a great victory to just let him have it and wear the consequences. What a drag on his resources that albatross would be. And the terrible press would just make him even more anathema.
 
The United States Navy sent one Guided Missile Destroyer to Syria to get things straightened out. Russia don't stand a chance and the DDG will shoot down MIGs. I pity the folly of the Ruskies.
Just the threat from Russia is enough to deter Washington.
 
The United States Navy sent one Guided Missile Destroyer to Syria to get things straightened out. Russia don't stand a chance and the DDG will shoot down MIGs. I pity the folly of the Ruskies.
Just the threat from Russia is enough to deter Washington.

Russia is low tech and America is high tech. Russians are stupid beyond recognition.
 
I think the rebels did the chemical attacks, just like the last time we threatened to pull out, I doubt it's Assad.
 
Syria is not worth a war with Syria.

It is not our problem. We are not the world's policeman.

I agree with you. Though there is a school of thought that we owe the Syrian people, that the civil war was an offshoot of the highly vaunted 'Arab Spring'.

That said - that there will be a 'world policeman' is inevitable. Our only choice is who...US, China, Russia? Distance between countries is no longer an aggression deterring factor. MAD is - but only among those nations with a sense of self preservation. The UN has proved a disappointment in it's peace-keeping efforts.

Winston Churchill wrote a series of books on the Second World War - in the preface of Vol. 1, 'The Gathering Storm', he had this to say...

(an excerpt)
'One day President Roosevelt told me he was asking publicly for suggestions about what the war should be called. I said at once, "The Unnecessary War." There never was a war more easy to stop than that which has just wrecked what was left of the world from the previous struggle. The human tragedy reaches its climax in the fact that after all the exertions and sacrifices of hundreds of millions of people, and of the victories of the Righteous Cause, we have still not found Peace or Security, and that we lie in the grip of even worse perils than those we have surmounted. It is my earnest hope that pondering upon the past may give guidance in days to come, enable a new generation to repair some of the errors of former years and thus govern, in accordance'

...with this as the 'Theme of the Volume" - 'How the English-speaking peoples through their unwisdom, carelessness, and good nature allowed the wicked to rearm.

others from the same volume...

“We shall see how the counsels of prudence and restraint may become the prime agents of mortal danger; how the middle course adopted from desires for safety and a quiet life may be found to lead direct to the bull's-eye of disaster.”
Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

Much of our foreign involvement since WW ll was based on Churchill's philosophy.

Maybe Syria isn't worth it and yet perhaps Russia is weaker right now than it ever will be. I, in no way, have enough knowledge to choose a course of action. Containment now, or eradication later? Any decision must involve other nations.

 

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