TAPS- Why America is Not Coming Back

[Jarlaxle]

Yes, we don't have poor people in Congress.

In either party.

But I have to ask who is the moocher?

The guy who collects an eight figure salary why the people who did the work are getting sub-standard wages and have to go on food stamps and medicaid to survive is a moocher. He's getting fat off the hard work of others.

But here's the thing you don't get.


It would strike me that if you want to say work is a virtue, then you shouldn't go around cheating workers at every oppurtunity, and then act surprise when they just vote themselves what you should have been providing all along.

No, the employee has a job because of the hard work by the business owner. The owner took risk and made sacrifices on the road to success. IOW, the business owner has 'skin in the game'.

-Geaux

Really?

When?

Most big corporations have "boy's club" CEOs who didn't start the company. Either that, or they "inherited" their positions.

I've yet to see the "risk" you are talking about in these major corporations.

Small businesses? Yeah. My brother and I both have started restaurants and bars..and lost a small fortune doing it.

And the truth comes out...stop blaming others for your own incompetence!

 

[Tank]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

 

[Jarlaxle]

This man's POV is nothing but hateful nonsense.

Americans aren't not not working because there's free stuff.

They're not working because the masters are investing in manufacturing overseas and they cannot find adaquate work to support themselves.

Rabbi?

That's supposed to mean teacher not apologist for the MASTERS.

you just cherry picked one sentence and rolled with that
not like you usually

Ma'am, that has been Eddie's MO for YEARS, here and elsewhere!

 

[Jarlaxle]

The old America was based on a few rich people exploiting everyone else... and using race and religion to keep us fighting amongst ourselves.

Good riddance.

You're more full of shit than a bull. What a miserable life you must lead.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

I'll let you know when you actually post some. The next time you do will be the first!

 

[Old Rocks]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

Yep. And they are the 'Conservative' areas.

 

[BlackSand]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

Yep. And they are the 'Conservative' areas.

Hiroshima 2013 ...



Detroit 2013 ...



Not that either are third world locations or particularly conservative ... But a rather interesting comparison.

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[Tank]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

Yep. And they are the 'Conservative' areas.

If by "conservative" you mean black and hispanic

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The old America was based on a few rich people exploiting everyone else... and using race and religion to keep us fighting amongst ourselves.

Good riddance.

You're more full of shit than a bull. What a miserable life you must lead.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Yes, the truth is you are a miserable person and I imagine it's hurt very much. If I were religious I'd pray for you.

 

[Asclepias]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

How does it feel to have your trailer park super sized?

 

[Asclepias]

The old America was based on a few rich people exploiting everyone else... and using race and religion to keep us fighting amongst ourselves.

Good riddance.

So is the new America. They just put a shiny new coat of paint on the system to fool everyone.

 

[Tank]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

How does it feel to have your trailer park super sized?

Trailers are mansions to third world peoples

 

[Asclepias]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

How does it feel to have your trailer park super sized?

Trailers are mansions to third world peoples

Did you post pictures of your trailer online to find that out?

 

[Tank]

How does it feel to have your trailer park super sized?

Trailers are mansions to third world peoples

Did you post pictures of your trailer online to find that out?

Ya

 

[JoeB131]

You're more full of shit than a bull. What a miserable life you must lead.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Yes, the truth is you are a miserable person and I imagine it's hurt very much. If I were religious I'd pray for you.

No, guy, what hurts you is that most people aren't buying into the game anymore.

I mean, a few of you dumb, gun-toting trailer trash listen to Rush and the Dick Dynasty guy and think you are getting ahead, but the rest of us are trying to make a just society.

Which I think is pretty awesome. Almost gives me hope for humanity.

 

[Geaux4it]

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Yes, the truth is you are a miserable person and I imagine it's hurt very much. If I were religious I'd pray for you.

No, guy, what hurts you is that most people aren't buying into the game anymore.

I mean, a few of you dumb, gun-toting trailer trash listen to Rush and the Dick Dynasty guy and think you are getting ahead, but the rest of us are trying to make a just society.

Which I think is pretty awesome. Almost gives me hope for humanity.

For you to have hope, you'll want us to keep losing it

-Geaux

 

[Bfgrn]

Ray McGovern, a retired CIA agent whose expertise was the old Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries says the propaganda coming out of Fox News is at the same level as Pravda. But I suspect most Russians knew Pravda was propaganda.

"Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we're discovering we work for Fox. And this balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party."
David Frum - Speechwriter for George W. Bush

 

[eagle1462010]

2 Parties same result....................

Both tied to the Lobbyist and their special interests. No longer serving the American people. They make their decisions based on what will line their pocket. To protect this, they keep the American people at each others throats..............Playing the blame game and He said She said BS all the time.

This OP states we are in decline. WE ARE GOING DOWN THE TUBE............or

The Path to Hell is paved with good intentions.................

We have strayed from the intent of a Republic. We have damaged the Constitution which was designed to stop all this shit.........We have decided that the Gov't is the answer to all our problems instead of the individual. We have allowed them to spend and create programs with no way to Fund it. We have allowed the banks to basically own the currency of a nation, and on and on............

Some want a return to Reality to save our countries future for our kids..........Which means hitting the breaks, as others believe in hitting the gas.........

Either way, we have screwed our kids futures and those that follow.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, the truth is you are a miserable person and I imagine it's hurt very much. If I were religious I'd pray for you.

No, guy, what hurts you is that most people aren't buying into the game anymore.

I mean, a few of you dumb, gun-toting trailer trash listen to Rush and the Dick Dynasty guy and think you are getting ahead, but the rest of us are trying to make a just society.

Which I think is pretty awesome. Almost gives me hope for humanity.

For you to have hope, you'll want us to keep losing it

-Geaux

As in the hope that others will follow in your footsteps of willful ignorance and bigotry.

Sorry, much of the younger generation is ditching your kind of pathological ideologies and working for a better world.

 

[Truthmatters]

We Are Not Coming Back
Please take a moment to digest this provocative article by a Jewish Rabbifrom Teaneck , N.J.
It is far and away the most succinct and thoughtful explanation of how our nation is changing. The article appeared in The Israel National News, and is directed to Jewish readership. 70% of American Jews vote as Democrats. The Rabbi has some interesting comments in that regard.

Rabbi Steven Pruzansky is the spiritual leader of Congregation Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck, New Jersey
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"The most charitable way of explaining the election results of 2012 is that Americans voted for the status quo - for the incumbent President and for a divided Congress. They must enjoy gridlock, partisanship, incompetence, economic stagnation and avoidance of responsibility. And fewer people voted.

But as we awake from the nightmare, it is important to eschew the facile explanations for the Romney defeat that will prevail among the chattering classes. Romney did not lose because of the effects of Hurricane Sandy that devastated this area, nor did he lose because he ran a poor campaign, nor did he lose because the Republicans could have chosen better candidates, nor did he lose because Obama benefited from a slight uptick in the economy due to the business cycle.

Romney lost because he didn't get enough votes to win.

That might seem obvious, but not for the obvious reasons. Romney lost because the conservative virtues - the traditional American virtues – of
Liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness - no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate.

The simplest reason why Romney lost was because it is impossible to compete against free stuff.

Every businessman knows this; that is why the "loss leader" or the giveaway is such a powerful marketing tool. Obama's America is one in which free stuff is given away: the adults among the 47,000,000 on food stamps clearly recognized for whom they should vote, and so they did, by the tens of millions; those who - courtesy of Obama - receive two full years of unemployment benefits (which, of course, both disincentivizes looking for work and also motivates people to work off the books while collecting their windfall) surely know for whom to vote. The lure of free stuff is irresistible.

The defining moment of the whole campaign was the revelation of the secretly-recorded video in which Romney acknowledged the difficulty of winning an election in which "47% of the people" start off against him because they pay no taxes and just receive money - "free stuff" - from the government.

Almost half of the population has no skin in the game - they don't care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs, nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children
And from the Chinese.

They just want the free stuff that comes their way at someone else's expense. In the end, that 47% leaves very little margin for error for any Republican, and does not bode well for the future.

It is impossible to imagine a conservative candidate winning against such overwhelming odds. People do vote their pocketbooks. In essence, the people vote for a Congress who will not raise their taxes, and for a President who will give them free stuff, never mind who has to pay for it.

That engenders the second reason why Romney lost: the inescapable conclusion that the electorate is ignorant and uninformed. Indeed, it does not pay to be an informed voter, because most other voters - the clear majority – are unintelligent and easily swayed by emotion and raw populism. That is the indelicate way of saying that too many people vote with their hearts and not their heads. That is why Obama did not have to produce a second term agenda, or even defend his first-term record. He needed only to portray Mitt Romney as a rapacious capitalist who throws elderly women over a cliff, when he is not just snatching away their cancer medication, while starving the poor and cutting taxes for the rich.

During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai Stevenson: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Stevenson called back: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"
Truer words were never spoken.

Obama could get away with saying that "Romney wants the rich to play by a different set of rules" - without ever defining what those different rules were; with saying that the "rich should pay their fair share" - without ever defining what a "fair share" is; with saying that Romney wants the poor, elderly and sick to "fend for themselves" - without even acknowledging that all these government programs are going bankrupt, their current insolvency only papered over by deficit spending.

Similarly, Obama (or his surrogates) could hint to blacks that a Romney victory would lead them back into chains and proclaim to women that their abortions and birth control would be taken away.. He could appeal to Hispanics that Romney would have them all arrested and shipped to Mexico and unabashedly state that he will not enforce the current immigration laws. He could espouse the furtherance of the incestuous relationship between governments and unions - in which politicians ply the unions with public money, in exchange for which the unions provide the politicians with votes, in exchange for which the politicians provide more money and the unions provide more votes, etc., even though the money is gone.

Obama also knows that the electorate has changed - that whites will soon be a minority in America (they're already a minority in California) and that the new immigrants to the US are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America . Obama is part of that different America , knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.

Obama also proved again that negative advertising works, invective sells, and harsh personal attacks succeed. That Romney never engaged in such diatribes points to his essential goodness as a person; his "negative ads" were simple facts, never personal abuse - facts about high unemployment,
lower take-home pay, a loss of American power and prestige abroad, a lack of leadership, etc. As a politician, though, Romney failed because he did not embrace the devil's bargain of making unsustainable promises.

It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan - people of substance, depth and ideas - to compete with the shallow populism and platitudes of their opponents. Obama mastered the politics of envy – of class warfare - never reaching out to Americans as such but to individual groups, and cobbling together a winning majority from these minority groups. If an Obama could not be defeated - with his record and his vision of America , in which free stuff seduces voters - it is hard to envision any change in the future.

The road to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and to a European-socialist economy - those very economies that are collapsing today in Europe - is paved.

For Jews, mostly assimilated anyway and staunch Democrats, the results demonstrate again that liberalism is their Torah. Almost 70% voted for a
president widely perceived by Israelis and most committed Jews as hostile to Israel . They voted to secure Obama's future at America 's expense and at Israel 's expense - in effect, preferring Obama to Netanyahu by a wide margin.

A dangerous time is ahead. Under present circumstances, it is inconceivable that the US will take any aggressive action against Iran and will more
likely thwart any Israeli initiative. The US will preach the importance of negotiations up until the production of the first Iranian nuclear weapon - and then state that the world must learn to live with this new reality.

But this election should be a wake-up call to Jews. There is no permanent empire, nor is there an enduring haven for Jews anywhere in the exile. The American empire began to decline in 2007, and the deterioration has been exacerbated in the last five years. This election only hastens that decline.
Society is permeated with sloth, greed, envy and materialistic excess. It has lost its moorings and its moral foundations.. The takers outnumber the givers, and that will only increase in years to come.

The "Occupy" riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead - years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.

If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone. And, sad for the world, it is not coming back."

then leave and lets us who believe in this country make it great again

 

[Truthmatters]

The areas of America that look like a third world country, are growing

Yep. And they are the 'Conservative' areas.

Hiroshima 2013 ...



Detroit 2013 ...



Not that either are third world locations or particularly conservative ... But a rather interesting comparison.

.

yeah see what corporate worship gets you?


they trash you and abandon you if there is profit in it