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Then they can get one free of charge. That's the law.I do. What if you dont have one?I don't see a problem with asking for an ID when your ballot is cast.
And they are very easy to get.
There are other kinds of acceptable ID as well. Utility bills. Pay stubs. Birth certificates. Passports. Military ID's. Student ID's( with photo and date of birth)...
Everyone has ID... No excuses. If a person is registered to vote, they had to have an ID to register. Where is it?
So this is how you libs react when one of your own dares to stray off the reservation?You brought it up *3 martini lunch*Sure Bubba, because it's NOT like the poor live right next to the DMV and can just pop over on their 3 martini lunch right?
Are you saying the poor cannot afford alcohol? And, the last time I checked, the DMV is not usually located in the ritzy parts of town.
Your argument has gone from being simply wrong (there is no racism if everyone is held to the same standard) to offensive (as if Hispanics and blacks are too intellectually or financially challenged to afford something that is free) to buffoonery at it's zenith (now, it's because they are blue collar workers by and large?).
A bit of advice "bubba"...quit while you are behind.
Alcohol? What nonsense is that about?
You're becoming tiresome. You've been blown out of the water every time you've opened your mouth on this subject.Sorry Bubba, ANOTHER epic fail from the "moderate".
AGAIN
As a fellow liberal, I usually am in the market for other points of view from the left; Lord knows there are way too few on this board. But you've really gone off the deep end. I'm not sure what your particular strain of dementia is but cutting and pasting cherry-picked information is not helping your case. It's pretty much what lead us into Iraq if you recall...
And, yes, you too sound like a fucking idiot.
Time to put you on ignore <plink>.
Don't know what sarcasm is with the 3 martini lunch bit when your poor Bubba? I'm shocked you are NEVER honest, from a "moderate" no less, lol
"fellow liberal;"
lmaorog
fukking moron
There is no evidence of voter fraud in Pa. so the process is indeed secure but our former governor wanted ID laws anyway. Why?That is immaterial. The integrity of the process must be secured.Because in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
ANYTHING in the past 30 years??? lol
Politico is a lefty wing blog.....Every state offers multi-year state IDs for a nominal charge -- thus, there's no excuse to not have one.Yea if they wanna issue them to every single person free of charge, go for it. Then there'd be no issue.The state has a compelling interest to make sure the person at the polls is who we says he is.Not sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
The least restrictive means to this end is a state-issued photo ID.
CONServatives ALWAYS for a bigger, more intrusive Gov't when not needed!
Study: Voter ID laws hit minorities
Study Voter ID laws hit minorities - Associated Press - POLITICO.com
Studies show that as many as 11 percent of eligible voters do not have government-issued photo ID. That percentage is even higher for seniors, people of color, people with disabilities, low-income voters, and students. Many citizens find it hard to get government photo IDs, because the underlying documentation like birth certificates (the ID one needs to get ID) is often difficult or expensive to come by. At the same time, voter ID policies are far more costly to implement than many assume. Instead, Improvements in voting technology and modernization of our voter registration system will both increase efficiency and close the door on mistakes and fraud.
Voter ID Brennan Center for Justice
Voter photo ID laws are particularly costly and burdensome for women in part because roughly 90 percent of women change their legal name upon marriage or divorce. According to the Brennan Center, 11 percent of eligible voters do not have a government-issued photo ID, and only 48 percent of voting-age women have a birth certificate that accurately reflects their current name.
The story of 78-year-old Alberta Currie offers just one example of the suppressive nature of photo ID laws. Currie, who is the great-granddaughter of a slave, was born in North Carolina by a midwife and lacks a birth certificate. As a result, she cannot obtain a voter photo ID, which North Carolina is seeking to require to voteas early as its 2014 midterm elections. For Currie, and the thousands of voters like her, the steps to update or acquire a voter photo ID are far from easy. The onerous process can require travelling to a local government office – a particularly difficult task for rural or disabled voters – and shelling out money for the necessary documentation, such as an original copy of a birth certificate or marriage verification documents. Even though government-issued voter photo IDs are meant to be free, the fees associated with acquiring them creates a heavy tax – particularly for women, a population that is already economically disadvantaged and overwhelmingly more likely to live in poverty than men.
How Voter ID Laws Disproportionately Impact Women And What We re Doing About It League of Women Voters
Lets take the old lady in NC......Ok, in order to become registered to vote, one would have had to present an ID....So where is it?
BTW, EVERY live birth in State of NC is recorded by the county Register of Deeds or County Clerk....There IS a record.
The way this thing is written makes is so blatantly obvious that the writer has a HUGE left wing bias.
Look, unless one is incapacitated, in which case they could not vote anyway, they can go obtain an ID.
For example....I did a job at this older guy's house. He lived on a large tract of family land. This guy told me he has NEVER been outside the county of his residence. He has never had a drivers license. I asked him how got around. He told me one of his kids or grandkids would take him to where ever he needed to go.
He lived way out in the country. A good 20 miles from the nearest town.
The excuses and whiny shit in that politico article is just a bunch of lame nonsense.
This is proof positive that something needs to be done before the system is compromised.Watch all these old ass posters start defending it when its not about blacks.
"Well, you know since my trifocals got lost at Bingo its hard for me to make it down to the DMV"
Old Dummycraps....we on the right don't condone this sort of thing from anyone. You libs do because you're desperate.
Sure Bubba, sure. WHY the increase in voted ID laws again when Dubya's DOJ looked at 300+ million votes and prosecuted ZERO for using another ID? lol
Assuming you're not full of shit....but what makes you think that was Bush's job?????
My understanding was voter fraud is more a local issue. Bush had enough on his plate.
In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud
The Real Fraud in “Voter Fraud”
How so-called reform laws aim to disenfranchise voters
Scholars confirm what the Bush Justice Department found—little evidence that voter fraud exists. More than anything else, voter fraud is a myth (see Justin Levitt, “The Truth about Voter Fraud,” Brennan Center for Justice, accessed on July 11, 2012). Lorraine C. Minnite, a public policy professor and a national expert on voter fraud, demonstrates in The Myth of Voter Fraud (Cornell University Press, 2010), that “voter fraud is a politically manufactured myth (p. 6).”
It is difficult to argue that the voter restrictions proposed in swing states like Florida and Pennsylvania are anything other than a ploy to suppress voting by people of color and the poor. First, Republicans have sponsored nearly all of the bills passed that would restrict voter registration
The Real Fraud in Voter Fraud Jesuit Social Research Institute Loyola University New Orleans
New database of US voter fraud finds no evidence that photo ID laws are needed - Investigations
Why wait until the horse runs away before one locks the barn door?
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So, if I can fly a bunch of rednecks into Marin County California from Orange Texas, they can vote without ID for the local county commissioner?
This is going to be fun.
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Voter rolls in Ohio are bloated experts say The Columbus DispatchBecause in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
Cincinnati Poll Worker is Third Voter Fraud Convict in Her County This Year PJ Tatler
That is immaterial. The integrity of the process must be secured.Because in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
ANYTHING in the past 30 years??? lol
This is, of course, a lie.It's not racist, it's a poll tax.
Yup.....not allowing the dead and the non-citizen to vote is definitely depressing Democrat voter turnout.This is proof positive that something needs to be done before the system is compromised.Old Dummycraps....we on the right don't condone this sort of thing from anyone. You libs do because you're desperate.
Sure Bubba, sure. WHY the increase in voted ID laws again when Dubya's DOJ looked at 300+ million votes and prosecuted ZERO for using another ID? lol
Assuming you're not full of shit....but what makes you think that was Bush's job?????
My understanding was voter fraud is more a local issue. Bush had enough on his plate.
In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud
The Real Fraud in “Voter Fraud”
How so-called reform laws aim to disenfranchise voters
Scholars confirm what the Bush Justice Department found—little evidence that voter fraud exists. More than anything else, voter fraud is a myth (see Justin Levitt, “The Truth about Voter Fraud,” Brennan Center for Justice, accessed on July 11, 2012). Lorraine C. Minnite, a public policy professor and a national expert on voter fraud, demonstrates in The Myth of Voter Fraud (Cornell University Press, 2010), that “voter fraud is a politically manufactured myth (p. 6).”
It is difficult to argue that the voter restrictions proposed in swing states like Florida and Pennsylvania are anything other than a ploy to suppress voting by people of color and the poor. First, Republicans have sponsored nearly all of the bills passed that would restrict voter registration
The Real Fraud in Voter Fraud Jesuit Social Research Institute Loyola University New Orleans
New database of US voter fraud finds no evidence that photo ID laws are needed - Investigations
Why wait until the horse runs away before one locks the barn door?
Yeah, since voter ID laws restrict millions to get 3% of ALL fraud the past 15 years, let's focus on the GOP voter restriction laws *shaking head*
There is no evidence of voter fraud in Pa. so the process is indeed secure but our former governor wanted ID laws anyway. Why?That is immaterial. The integrity of the process must be secured.Because in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
ANYTHING in the past 30 years??? lol
Pennsylvania admits it no voter fraud problem - The Plum Line - The Washington Post
It's not racist, it's a poll tax.
There is no evidence of voter fraud in Pa. so the process is indeed secure but our former governor wanted ID laws anyway. Why?That is immaterial. The integrity of the process must be secured.Because in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
ANYTHING in the past 30 years??? lol
Pennsylvania admits it no voter fraud problem - The Plum Line - The Washington Post
Why not make the process as sterile as possible.
It's not racist, it's a poll tax.
It is no such thing.
Why are you looking for a solution for a problem that doesn`t exist?There is no evidence of voter fraud in Pa. so the process is indeed secure but our former governor wanted ID laws anyway. Why?That is immaterial. The integrity of the process must be secured.Because in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
ANYTHING in the past 30 years??? lol
Pennsylvania admits it no voter fraud problem - The Plum Line - The Washington Post
Why not make the process as sterile as possible.
When you have to pay money to vote, it's a poll tax, moron.There is no evidence of voter fraud in Pa. so the process is indeed secure but our former governor wanted ID laws anyway. Why?That is immaterial. The integrity of the process must be secured.Because in the past DEAD people voted that is why. ILLEGALS have voted That is is whyNot sure why you need an i.d. to vote .
Once your name is crossed off the list as having voted at the polling place, you cant vote again. (Unless the polling place is breaking the law).
So the i.d. thing isnt completely necessary because the registered voters would be able to file a grievance of their vote was taken and it wasnt them doing it.
The real problem is updating the registry to exclude deceased people and things like that.
There have been widespread studies on voter fraud. Not much is abrewing.
ANYTHING in the past 30 years??? lol
Pennsylvania admits it no voter fraud problem - The Plum Line - The Washington Post
Why not make the process as sterile as possible.
Well, there is no wailing about the poor white coal miners in Appalachia which are also impacted by the legislation. Since the measures impact black and white Americans alike, they are not racist. Of course, we could talk about the paternalistic contempt in which the Cletus's out there hold minorities if you want to talk about racism.You tell me, Cletus. So far, we've destroyed the whole "racist" angle, so what do you have left?Weird how a lot of things coincide. Do you really want to open that door?Mind readers of the world, unite!
Weird how GOP voter laws coincide with the goal of right wingers voter suppression efforts right?
You mean with the GOP's voter suppression laws? Or the FACT that voter ID's are a "fix" for a problem that simply doesn't exist Bubba?
Sure you have Bubba, and you probably believe that nonsense!
