Tell Me Why Unions Are Bad

Tell me why Unions are bad. Don't get me wrong, I study the abuse of Unions just like I study the abuse of everything that gets out of control.

Regulation isn't a bad word for either party. It's a necessary and Constitutional word.

So.......since Unions gave us;

1.Weekends without work
2.All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
3.Paid vacation
4.Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
5.Sick leave
6.Social Security
7.Minimum wage
8.Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
9.8-hour work day
10.Overtime pay
11.Child labor laws
12.Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13.40-hour work week
14.Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)
15.Unemployment insurance
16.Pensions
17.Workplace safety standards and regulations
18.Employer health care insurance
19.Collective bargaining rights for employees
20.Wrongful termination laws
21.Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
22.Whistleblower protection laws
23.Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
24.Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25.Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
26.Sexual harassment laws
27.Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28.Holiday pay
29.Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
30.Privacy rights
31.Pregnancy and parental leave
32.Military leave
33.The right to strike
34.Public education for children
35.Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
36.Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

Tell me why they are bad.

Let me start. NO Union should force anyone to join a Union pending employment. That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

The people aren't stupid. Let the people chose. The people run this Country. NOT the Government or the Media that pays Millions to politicians.


In most cases, unions these days are nothing but agitators, like you..........
 
Even HL Mencken thought unions were a good idea for workers...he like many people today just had/has issues with who takes over unions and what they do with the power.

Only a fool would suggest unions as a concept are a bad idea

then there are an awful lot of fools on the right.... and they spend an awful lot of time demonizing unions. why? because the wealthiest want to buy more yachts and pay the least amount possible for labor... and the right hates unions because they are uniformly democratic and support democratic candidates.

that's their real sin....

and the low info wingers just say ... oh yeah, job creators. :cuckoo:
 
Tell me why Unions are bad. Don't get me wrong, I study the abuse of Unions just like I study the abuse of everything that gets out of control.

Regulation isn't a bad word for either party. It's a necessary and Constitutional word.

So.......since Unions gave us;

1.Weekends without work
2.All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
3.Paid vacation
4.Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
5.Sick leave
6.Social Security
7.Minimum wage
8.Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
9.8-hour work day
10.Overtime pay
11.Child labor laws
12.Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13.40-hour work week
14.Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)
15.Unemployment insurance
16.Pensions
17.Workplace safety standards and regulations
18.Employer health care insurance
19.Collective bargaining rights for employees
20.Wrongful termination laws
21.Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
22.Whistleblower protection laws
23.Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
24.Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25.Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
26.Sexual harassment laws
27.Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28.Holiday pay
29.Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
30.Privacy rights
31.Pregnancy and parental leave
32.Military leave
33.The right to strike
34.Public education for children
35.Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
36.Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

Tell me why they are bad.

Let me start. NO Union should force anyone to join a Union pending employment. That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

The people aren't stupid. Let the people chose. The people run this Country. NOT the Government or the Media that pays Millions to politicians.
Most of those items are federal and state legislation. Unions were developed AFTER or during the ongoing improvements in labor law.
Unions served their purpose. They are no longer needed. Unions have been tabbed as a burden to production. Union work rules toss aside efficiency. Unions set a wall between labor and management. Unions do not negotiate. They extort.
Unions set unrealistically high labor rates. Unions pay no attention to market forces or the concept of competition. Unions prohibit the use of individual merit to determine pay or rewarding the exemplary employee.
Unions are collectives which are based on socialism. A herd mentality.
Finally, unions have become a political tool for the democrat party.
Especially with public sector unions.
It's an incestuous relationship.
Union bosses make demands. Politicians ask what's in it for them. Union bosses promise political support from the union. Politicians say "yes, we will help you if you help me( us) get reelected."
New Jersey is a perfect example. When I left the sate taxes were reasonable. A typical $200,000 home in my area would see annual property taxes in the $2,000 to $2500 range.
Today, the house in which I grew up has a tax levy 5 times that.
The town has a police force of like 15 patrol and command officers. Rookie officers with Criminal Justice degrees START at over $60,000.
The list is in njbythenumbers.com
Two PO's that I went to school with, made well over $100,000 per year. His son is a 5 year veteran of the force. His salary is $102k per year....According to the union, money grows on trees there.
My friend's father was the police chief until he retired 5 years ago.
His monthly pension allowance is close to $14,000.
He is about 65 years years old. If he lives to 85 his pension will amount to well over $3 million.
He's a real nice guy, but I am sorry, that is an absurd amount of money.
 
Tell me why Unions are bad. Don't get me wrong, I study the abuse of Unions just like I study the abuse of everything that gets out of control.

Regulation isn't a bad word for either party. It's a necessary and Constitutional word.

So.......since Unions gave us;

1.Weekends without work
2.All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
3.Paid vacation
4.Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
5.Sick leave
6.Social Security
7.Minimum wage
8.Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
9.8-hour work day
10.Overtime pay
11.Child labor laws
12.Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13.40-hour work week
14.Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)
15.Unemployment insurance
16.Pensions
17.Workplace safety standards and regulations
18.Employer health care insurance
19.Collective bargaining rights for employees
20.Wrongful termination laws
21.Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
22.Whistleblower protection laws
23.Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
24.Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25.Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
26.Sexual harassment laws
27.Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28.Holiday pay
29.Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
30.Privacy rights
31.Pregnancy and parental leave
32.Military leave
33.The right to strike
34.Public education for children
35.Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
36.Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

Tell me why they are bad.

Let me start. NO Union should force anyone to join a Union pending employment. That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

The people aren't stupid. Let the people chose. The people run this Country. NOT the Government or the Media that pays Millions to politicians.

You certainly made a long list which I think is mostly giving credit to Unions where it isn't due.

To answer your question, there is nothing wrong with Unions. There is nothing wrong with a hammer until you beat someone over the head with it. Most Unions have become nothing more then the corporations they so like to hate. The roll over in bed and tell the CEO, I hate you. They say they will do one thing and then do the other. For example Clinton and his "free" trade agreements he shoved down the Union's throat. Remember they said anyone voting for the "free" trade agreements would be punished, then they did not? Remember the BS about the illegal traffic controller walk out? All the bloviating by the Unions on how Reagan was unfair, but what did they actually do? Absolutely nothing. The country could have been shut down by the Unions then but they did nothing but whine. Most of what is on your list was done by government, right or wrong. Unions have contracts that protect their people and provide them with these benefits. When the government takes over the role what is the use of a Union? That's what is wrong with Unions.
 
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You are misrepresenting the position here. Very few people really think that unions as a whole are bad. That is reserved for those that really don’t bother to think. The position is not that unions are bad but that they have become a bad force in modern times. This is mostly due to the fact that unions have been offered special protections over the years that have reduced their requirement to actually fight for the workers. This is because membership in a union is a MANDATORY function of employment. In virtually all the problem areas, this has been the core problem. When your ‘members’ are legally bound to pay you, why would you offer a quality service?

The reality is that you don’t. That service does not gain you anything so they really don’t bother.

We are starting to fix that travesty though. Right to work states have taken that protection that no other entity receives and made it illegal allowing people to join a union at will rather than forcing them into one as a matter of employment.

Unions should not be destroyed or ended as a practice – they are vital for the workers to maintain leverage in their positions should they need or want it. There is nothing inherently wrong at all with joining together to represent your shared interests. There is something vitally wrong with those unions getting special protections though that forces one to participate in a practice that they do not want to be a part of.

This is because membership in a union is a MANDATORY function of employment.

not all Unions.....the one i was in was not mandatory....but those guys who were not in it sure enjoyed the pay and benefits that Union got them....
 
If Unions are bad, I would think that more people would have a valid argument against them. The only negative arguments brought up were the ones I brought up in the OP solidifying that the least intelligent people in forums read the title and nothing more.

It use to be "We The People".

Or maybe you think people demanding a fair days pay for a fair days work is Socialism?

Unions themselves are not bad. There was a time where they changed the way we work, and we owe them our gratitude.

But the unions of today are not based on helping workers. They are based on a power struggle. They serve the worker no more than the 1%ers. Unions do not want workers and mgmt. to get along.
Yep. And they wield that power in a HUGE money laundering scheme that benefits Democrat Statists to do their bidding.
 
You are misrepresenting the position here. Very few people really think that unions as a whole are bad. That is reserved for those that really don’t bother to think. The position is not that unions are bad but that they have become a bad force in modern times. This is mostly due to the fact that unions have been offered special protections over the years that have reduced their requirement to actually fight for the workers. This is because membership in a union is a MANDATORY function of employment. In virtually all the problem areas, this has been the core problem. When your ‘members’ are legally bound to pay you, why would you offer a quality service?

The reality is that you don’t. That service does not gain you anything so they really don’t bother.

We are starting to fix that travesty though. Right to work states have taken that protection that no other entity receives and made it illegal allowing people to join a union at will rather than forcing them into one as a matter of employment.

Unions should not be destroyed or ended as a practice – they are vital for the workers to maintain leverage in their positions should they need or want it. There is nothing inherently wrong at all with joining together to represent your shared interests. There is something vitally wrong with those unions getting special protections though that forces one to participate in a practice that they do not want to be a part of.

It was one thing for workers to unite and strike or demand better wages, conditions and reasonable hours. Those things have been accomplished. Now it's a matter of unions demanding dues from people and they use those to fund campaigns. It doesn't matter what the members want.

The unions are all about politics these days. They make big money and spend big money and it's not all about the workers. The unions helped elect Obama. They helped push Obamacare and now want exempt. That attitude that it's okay for the rest of us but not good enough for unions is unacceptable.

The union bosses are nothing more than mobsters these days and they are no longer needed. They've become self-serving.
Those against unions, like the Koch brothers, backed Romney. The mystery is why middle class folks support the 1%, to their own detriment.

maybe because they can see that Democrats are just as fucked as Republicans.....so what difference does it make?......they both have their own 1%....and the 1% of both parties all have one thing in common....MONEY....and if push came to shove,that money will bring all those people together....and fuck everyone else....they will all do what they need to do to keep that wealth....
 
If Unions are bad, I would think that more people would have a valid argument against them. The only negative arguments brought up were the ones I brought up in the OP solidifying that the least intelligent people in forums read the title and nothing more.

It use to be "We The People".

Or maybe you think people demanding a fair days pay for a fair days work is Socialism?

The first page and a half of reply's were people sucking pro-union dick. Yet you never did call them out like you promised to do to any asshole just spewing the party line.

Pretty selective in your outrage here aren't you?

Here we see a SHINING example of what party lines are. This small brain thinks that Unions are Only a Left wing thing. When in history it has been a human movement.

I'm so sad for this kid. Propaganda sheep aren't wrong because they believe propaganda. They are wrong because they haven't received true information.

you havent been here long enough.....we have threads here about Unions were many on the Left were saying just that.....i said a few times in those threads that back in the early days of Unions there were many on the Conservative side who fought along side of Liberals for workers rights and helped start Unions.....after all those guys worked in the same Environment,why would they not want better too?...but i was told by quite a few Lefties here....bullshit....no Conservative would want better working conditions....
 
They aren't bad, the far right hates them because they stand up for the middle class and working man.

Yeah, no doubt about it. The far right hate working people and the middle class. Actually, the far right hates dumbass ignorance such as you just displayed. The far right are working people and the middle class.

Having been a union man for many years, and a union officer for some of those years, I can tell you that I do not hate unions. However, I can also tell you that the national unions have lost their way, and no longer represent the working man. They now represent themselves, and are in collusion with the Democrat party to ensure that they can continue to rip off the working men and women that they force into the union, with the assistance of the Democrat party. A criminal conspiracy of the worst kind.
 
You are misrepresenting the position here. Very few people really think that unions as a whole are bad. That is reserved for those that really don’t bother to think. The position is not that unions are bad but that they have become a bad force in modern times. This is mostly due to the fact that unions have been offered special protections over the years that have reduced their requirement to actually fight for the workers. This is because membership in a union is a MANDATORY function of employment. In virtually all the problem areas, this has been the core problem. When your ‘members’ are legally bound to pay you, why would you offer a quality service?

The reality is that you don’t. That service does not gain you anything so they really don’t bother.

We are starting to fix that travesty though. Right to work states have taken that protection that no other entity receives and made it illegal allowing people to join a union at will rather than forcing them into one as a matter of employment.

Unions should not be destroyed or ended as a practice – they are vital for the workers to maintain leverage in their positions should they need or want it. There is nothing inherently wrong at all with joining together to represent your shared interests. There is something vitally wrong with those unions getting special protections though that forces one to participate in a practice that they do not want to be a part of.

It was one thing for workers to unite and strike or demand better wages, conditions and reasonable hours. Those things have been accomplished. Now it's a matter of unions demanding dues from people and they use those to fund campaigns. It doesn't matter what the members want.

The unions are all about politics these days. They make big money and spend big money and it's not all about the workers. The unions helped elect Obama. They helped push Obamacare and now want exempt. That attitude that it's okay for the rest of us but not good enough for unions is unacceptable.

The union bosses are nothing more than mobsters these days and they are no longer needed. They've become self-serving.

Only a liberal can argue with those facts. MANY teachers don't want unions representing them any more.


Teachers Union Facts

America’s education system is in crisis. Test scores show us that students across America are performing at levels far below their peers overseas. In addition to test scores that aren’t up to par, graduation rates are shamefully low. There is no doubt that America’s students deserve better.

In a rapidly changing world, our students are not being taught the basic knowledge and skills they need to succeed. It’s time to get to the root of the problem.

America’s teachers unions — particularly the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers — are the most organized and powerful voices in education politics. These unions continue to block reforms needed to improve our nation’s schools by putting their focus on teachers rather than on the students they teach.

Our education system is in desperate need of reform and it’s time we stop letting teachers unions stand in the way.
 
Tell me why Unions are bad. Don't get me wrong, I study the abuse of Unions just like I study the abuse of everything that gets out of control.

Regulation isn't a bad word for either party. It's a necessary and Constitutional word.

So.......since Unions gave us;

1.Weekends without work
2.All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
3.Paid vacation
4.Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
5.Sick leave
6.Social Security
7.Minimum wage
8.Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
9.8-hour work day
10.Overtime pay
11.Child labor laws
12.Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13.40-hour work week
14.Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)
15.Unemployment insurance
16.Pensions
17.Workplace safety standards and regulations
18.Employer health care insurance
19.Collective bargaining rights for employees
20.Wrongful termination laws
21.Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
22.Whistleblower protection laws
23.Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
24.Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25.Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
26.Sexual harassment laws
27.Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28.Holiday pay
29.Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
30.Privacy rights
31.Pregnancy and parental leave
32.Military leave
33.The right to strike
34.Public education for children
35.Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
36.Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

Tell me why they are bad.

Let me start. NO Union should force anyone to join a Union pending employment. That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

The people aren't stupid. Let the people chose. The people run this Country. NOT the Government or the Media that pays Millions to politicians.

You certainly made a long list which I think is mostly giving credit to Unions where it isn't due.

To answer your question, there is nothing wrong with Unions. There is nothing wrong with a hammer until you beat someone over the head with it. Most Unions have become nothing more then the corporations they so like to hate. The roll over in bed and tell the CEO, I hate you. They say they will do one thing and then do the other. For example Clinton and his "free" trade agreements he shoved down the Union's throat. Remember they said anyone voting for the "free" trade agreements would be punished, then they did not? Remember the BS about the illegal traffic controller walk out? All the bloviating by the Unions on how Reagan was unfair, but what did they actually do? Absolutely nothing. The country could have been shut down by the Unions then but they did nothing but whine. Most of what is on your list was done by government, right or wrong. Unions have contracts that protect their people and provide them with these benefits. When the government takes over the role what is the use of a Union? That's what is wrong with Unions.
Yep!
 
Tell me why Unions are bad. Don't get me wrong, I study the abuse of Unions just like I study the abuse of everything that gets out of control.

Regulation isn't a bad word for either party. It's a necessary and Constitutional word.

So.......since Unions gave us;

1.Weekends without work
2.All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
3.Paid vacation
4.Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
5.Sick leave
6.Social Security
7.Minimum wage
8.Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
9.8-hour work day
10.Overtime pay
11.Child labor laws
12.Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13.40-hour work week
14.Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)
15.Unemployment insurance
16.Pensions
17.Workplace safety standards and regulations
18.Employer health care insurance
19.Collective bargaining rights for employees
20.Wrongful termination laws
21.Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
22.Whistleblower protection laws
23.Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
24.Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25.Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
26.Sexual harassment laws
27.Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28.Holiday pay
29.Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
30.Privacy rights
31.Pregnancy and parental leave
32.Military leave
33.The right to strike
34.Public education for children
35.Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
36.Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

Tell me why they are bad.

Let me start. NO Union should force anyone to join a Union pending employment. That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

The people aren't stupid. Let the people chose. The people run this Country. NOT the Government or the Media that pays Millions to politicians.

My problem with the unions of today is they have become as greedy and corrupt as the very businesses and corporations they rail against over the years unions have done many great things for workers and the country in getting fair wages and safe working conditions health benefits to name a few today's unions are a far cry from the ones who fought for the things I just mentioned.
 
You are misrepresenting the position here. Very few people really think that unions as a whole are bad. That is reserved for those that really don’t bother to think. The position is not that unions are bad but that they have become a bad force in modern times. This is mostly due to the fact that unions have been offered special protections over the years that have reduced their requirement to actually fight for the workers. This is because membership in a union is a MANDATORY function of employment. In virtually all the problem areas, this has been the core problem. When your ‘members’ are legally bound to pay you, why would you offer a quality service?

The reality is that you don’t. That service does not gain you anything so they really don’t bother.

We are starting to fix that travesty though. Right to work states have taken that protection that no other entity receives and made it illegal allowing people to join a union at will rather than forcing them into one as a matter of employment.

Unions should not be destroyed or ended as a practice – they are vital for the workers to maintain leverage in their positions should they need or want it. There is nothing inherently wrong at all with joining together to represent your shared interests. There is something vitally wrong with those unions getting special protections though that forces one to participate in a practice that they do not want to be a part of.

It was one thing for workers to unite and strike or demand better wages, conditions and reasonable hours. Those things have been accomplished. Now it's a matter of unions demanding dues from people and they use those to fund campaigns. It doesn't matter what the members want.

The unions are all about politics these days. They make big money and spend big money and it's not all about the workers. The unions helped elect Obama. They helped push Obamacare and now want exempt. That attitude that it's okay for the rest of us but not good enough for unions is unacceptable.

The union bosses are nothing more than mobsters these days and they are no longer needed. They've become self-serving.

"The unions helped elect Obama. They helped push Obamacare and now want exempt."

Care to explain or is that what you heard on Fox News? Surely you have the facts and have the ability to explain your position, otherwise, what kind of American are you?

Some unions bragged about spending millions on ads for Obama. If you weren't paying attention, that is on you.
 
What is the Republican final solution to the problem of Unions?
 
History cycles itself. Are workers and management supposed to get along and work together? If you understand capitalism the answer is a resounding NO. They are supposed to be at odds with each other. Unions are on the decline. Management will have their workers right where they want them... in the proverbial crosshairs. Chip away at pay, benefits slowly but surely. Someday they will return again to counter the awful business practices that will surely be coming down the pike. I don't have a problem with unions. I hired all union carpenters in my business over non union ones because they always produced a better product. They were my best workers bar none. Unions were the only reason Today's worker has some decent working conditions. Once the unions are gone, you will see management chip away at those. Why? Its a corporate mindset. A person who demonstrates a big time work ethic still has the odds stacked against them.
 
Explain "right to work". This is where the big government gets involved and dictates contract agreements between employers and workers, right? Given the name "right to work" to dupe simple-minded red state yokels into thinking that it's going to guarantee everyone a job but what it really does is uses the government arm of the corporate oligarchy to stifle collective bargaining and workers' rights.

So explain what you think "right to work laws" do.
 
Tell me why Unions are bad. Don't get me wrong, I study the abuse of Unions just like I study the abuse of everything that gets out of control.

Regulation isn't a bad word for either party. It's a necessary and Constitutional word.

So.......since Unions gave us;

1.Weekends without work
2.All breaks at work, including your lunch breaks
3.Paid vacation
4.Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
5.Sick leave
6.Social Security
7.Minimum wage
8.Civil Rights Act/Title VII - prohibits employer discrimination
9.8-hour work day
10.Overtime pay
11.Child labor laws
12.Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13.40-hour work week
14.Workers’ compensation (workers’ comp)
15.Unemployment insurance
16.Pensions
17.Workplace safety standards and regulations
18.Employer health care insurance
19.Collective bargaining rights for employees
20.Wrongful termination laws
21.Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA)
22.Whistleblower protection laws
23.Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) - prohibits employers from using a lie detector test on an employee
24.Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25.Compensation increases and evaluations (i.e. raises)
26.Sexual harassment laws
27.Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28.Holiday pay
29.Employer dental, life, and vision insurance
30.Privacy rights
31.Pregnancy and parental leave
32.Military leave
33.The right to strike
34.Public education for children
35.Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 - requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work
36.Laws ending sweatshops in the United States

Tell me why they are bad.

Let me start. NO Union should force anyone to join a Union pending employment. That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

The people aren't stupid. Let the people chose. The people run this Country. NOT the Government or the Media that pays Millions to politicians.

What the fuck? What, precisely, does CU force anyone to do?

You are on MY topic. You need to elaborate and explain. Go ahead. You got this, Right?

I am addressing your fuckwad topic asshole, you made this ridiculous fucking statement.

That's the exact polar opposite of Citizens United forcing employee's to use their money to pay for something they don't believe in.

Until you explain your fucking delusion I am going to treat this fucking topic with all the respect any whackadoodle conspiracy deserves.

I repeat my on topic question, what the fuck does CU force people to spend money on?
 
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