Tell me . . .

Them paying taxes and not being able to circumvent paying their fair share is not "punishing" them. They should be contributing to the economy and the people who allow them to have a business to begin with.


So you telling me you want slavery, company's can't move..they have to stay were their at, can't vote just accept what taxes liberals impose on them, no matter if they can afford it or not..because you say they can afford it

Slavery? Paying your fair share of taxes is not slavery. ESPECIALLY when we are talking about multi billion dollar businesses. Give me a break. You pity them for having to pay taxes, but you want to throw the poor away like so much trash. Rotten to the core. I picture Scrooge when I see your posts.
There has been so much argumentation about taxes that I am ready to go to a flat 20% tax on everybody at the Federal level with an annual exclusion for the cost of living -- food, clothing, shelter, transportation and medical.

This would force Romney to pay another 6% over his 14% taxes on his $20 million of annual income and give everyone else a major tax cut.


I so agree..

I am one of those lazy guys I get mad as hell when they raise my cigar prices but when it comes to the IRS just tell me what I owe you and the next guy does the same.

Make it fair and simple
 
What? You're willing to trade away freedom because if greed? Mein Kampf ring a bell?

Again, very LITTLE of your taxpayer dollars are going towards helping out the poor people. Much, much more of your taxpayer dollars are going to help your multi billion dollar industries.
Bullshit. For example - 140 BILLION/yr to the department of agriculture. What does this bureaucratic waste grow?
Screw your taxes. Absolutely zero accountability. Tax what I spend - not what I earn.

I don't have a problem with the fair tax proposals. Get rid of income tax and raise sales tax.
But that's not the liberal mantra.

I'm not a liberal. I'm a centrist.
Well, if you don't vote for Trump in November, that's a vote for Pantsuit. That makes you a leftist. Just the way it is.
 
Some people are poor because they have a disease. They got cancer or whatever, lost their job because they can no longer work, and have outrageous medical expenses.
Shit happens, if people want to get involved in helping others out - fine. If someone doesn't want anything to do with helping out the so called "poor".
Everyday we are losing more and more of our personal freedoms do to political correctness, the country is sick with the cancer of socialism and it does not even know it. Lol

It is not socialism. I would recommend that you look up what socialism is. No country is going to be able to be healthy and productive with pure socialism or pure capitalism.
Socialism is a sickness of the mind and a cancer to the country. It is never worked long term for the good of anything in all of history of the world.
100% fail rate... It's insanity to keep on trying it
 
It's worked out pretty well for Massachusetts. :)

It works well for the corporations and corporate welfare no matter where it is, that's the point.

Healthcare is for the people, not the corporations. In our state, it is known as "romney care." This was Romney's baby.

It was bi partisan and you know it, obama care was shoved down the nations throat by the liberals
 
And nobody expects that. That would be hyperbole. They should get food, shelter and healthcare.

That is hyperbole, because no one is stopping you from feeding the poor and giving them shelter or healthcare. The fact you may feel better spending someone else's money doing so, is something all together different and disingenuous.

The fact is that charitable donations are not enough. People are too greedy.
So force people to do what other people think is right?
Freedom is beginning to be nonexistent in this country. LOL

Unfortunately, because of inherent greediness, that is what has to be done.
So much for any form of freedom then
 
If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks. :)
1 The 90s were good and Obama got us back on course. I don't want to go back to 2000-2008.

2. Hillary

3. Trumps lying and I don't want Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan legislation getting passed and supreme Court nominees
Wow !!

You should be the happiest one here !!

Congrats.

Probably 41% of the voters agree with you -- Democrats who do not own any guns.

The 11% of the voters who are Democrat and own guns, and the 47% who are GOP with or without guns, don't agree with you however.

However I don't expect many if any of the 11% swing Democrats to vote for Trump. Trump is too insane.

Reagan was insane but not too insane.

W was also insane but not too insane.

Trump is too insane.

The GOP has gone too far this time, letting Trump hijack their party.
 
Trump, because if he becomes President, the price of Bunnies and Bunny food will go down, then I will be able to afford three bunnies !!!

:lol: A house full of soft cuddly bunnies for everyone!
that could be one of his catch phrases,,,,,something like,,,,Vote For Trump, Save A Bunny !!!!

He would probably rather skin and eat the poor bunnies for the money.
so would harry ried

Save the bunnies from state sanctioned murder! ;)
at least I brake for bunnies! even if I have to wear down my brakes!!
 
Again, very LITTLE of your taxpayer dollars are going towards helping out the poor people. Much, much more of your taxpayer dollars are going to help your multi billion dollar industries.
Bullshit. For example - 140 BILLION/yr to the department of agriculture. What does this bureaucratic waste grow?
Screw your taxes. Absolutely zero accountability. Tax what I spend - not what I earn.

I don't have a problem with the fair tax proposals. Get rid of income tax and raise sales tax.
But that's not the liberal mantra.

I'm not a liberal. I'm a centrist.
Well, if you don't vote for Trump in November, that's a vote for Pantsuit. That makes you a leftist. Just the way it is.

Nope, I'm voting for Gary, and none of your nonsensical rhetoric is going to change that. I cannot with good conscience vote for either of the crappy candidates that have been presented to us. The whole election has been nothing but a circus full of clowns. It's the biggest clown competition is what it is!
 
Them paying taxes and not being able to circumvent paying their fair share is not "punishing" them. They should be contributing to the economy and the people who allow them to have a business to begin with.
Yes, Most business owners have risk in running their business their employees have no idea of the difficulty involved. I own 3 s corps. I have nothing to fall back on except my own discipline. The federal government owes me nothing...

That doesn't mean you don't have to pay your share in taxes. We the people do, and so do businesses.
So, you are for wealth redistribution... Through the federal government?
 
Healthcare is for the people, not the corporations. In our state, it is known as "romney care." This was Romney's baby.

Healthcare is for the people, unfortunately we are talking about health insurance sold by corporations and subsidized with taxpayer dollars. Not to mention Romney damn sure isn't a Conservative.
 
:lol: A house full of soft cuddly bunnies for everyone!
that could be one of his catch phrases,,,,,something like,,,,Vote For Trump, Save A Bunny !!!!

He would probably rather skin and eat the poor bunnies for the money.
so would harry ried

Save the bunnies from state sanctioned murder! ;)
at least I brake for bunnies! even if I have to wear down my brakes!!

How can anyone not love the bunnies? They are the cutest little critters in the whole world!

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Them paying taxes and not being able to circumvent paying their fair share is not "punishing" them. They should be contributing to the economy and the people who allow them to have a business to begin with.
Yes, Most business owners have risk in running their business their employees have no idea of the difficulty involved. I own 3 s corps. I have nothing to fall back on except my own discipline. The federal government owes me nothing...

That doesn't mean you don't have to pay your share in taxes. We the people do, and so do businesses.
So, you are for wealth redistribution... Through the federal government?

Now where did I say that? Is the government taking all the money and redistributing it all equally amongst the people? No. While I do think there is a lot of waste, corruption and greed in the government, that does not mean that we don't have to pay our taxes! That is what keeps things running and running smoothly. Good grief! How would the government pay the electric bills without any money? God! I can't believe these things have to be explained. Some of you are SO one dimensional and you don't THINK.
 
I'm getting angry.......again. what society can last taking its best and brightest graduates and either work them to death or send off to war to die. Tax to max so they can't afford cost of Children of their own.

All the while paying the least productive to breed, rewarded with bigger checks to breed more. LBJ set it up well, Demwitts ride the wave, 50 years into it.

The average (I believe) that a person gets from welfare is about $300 per month! They then add on about 50-100 per child. What???? What makes you people think these people would CHOOSE to live like that?
Yes, Socialism makes society weak...

Any healthy economy kind of needs a combination of both, capitalism and socialism, in order to function properly. All of one and/or all of the other is not going to work!
Regulated capitalism with a social safety net works fine so far.

I would not call $20T debt ($17T GDP) "works fine". 1% growth, no plans for fix, increased spending built in. "Money don't grow on trees"....have u strolled thru a WalMart recently? Been to Asia lastc10 years? I rest case.
 
If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks. :)
1 The 90s were good and Obama got us back on course. I don't want to go back to 2000-2008.

2. Hillary

3. Trumps lying and I don't want Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan legislation getting passed and supreme Court nominees

What is your concern with the SCOTUS nominees?
Citizens united for one.

Forget God guns and racism. Those are unimportant wedge issue. No one is taking your gun. They may ban the sale of assault weapons but that's not banning guns.

What is important is the Scotus has gotten very conservative with alito Roberts. Did you know that whenever it's been between victims and corporations this court has sided with corporations 100% of the time.

Do you think corporations should have personhood? They don't die, they don't die from the pollution they create. Do you think corporations should have a bigger say in our politics? Then vote gop
 
If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks. :)
1 The 90s were good and Obama got us back on course. I don't want to go back to 2000-2008.

2. Hillary

3. Trumps lying and I don't want Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan legislation getting passed and supreme Court nominees

What is your concern with the SCOTUS nominees?
Citizens united for one.

Forget God guns and racism. Those are unimportant wedge issue. No one is taking your gun. They may ban the sale of assault weapons but that's not banning guns.

What is important is the Scotus has gotten very conservative with alito Roberts. Did you know that whenever it's been between victims and corporations this court has sided with corporations 100% of the time.

Do you think corporations should have personhood? They don't die, they don't die from the pollution they create. Do you think corporations should have a bigger say in our politics? Then vote gop

Not to me! My rights are the MOST important thing, and that includes the 2A! That's why I won't vote for either of your stupid parties!
 
I'm getting angry.......again. what society can last taking its best and brightest graduates and either work them to death or send off to war to die. Tax to max so they can't afford cost of Children of their own.

All the while paying the least productive to breed, rewarded with bigger checks to breed more. LBJ set it up well, Demwitts ride the wave, 50 years into it.

The average (I believe) that a person gets from welfare is about $300 per month! They then add on about 50-100 per child. What???? What makes you people think these people would CHOOSE to live like that?
Yes, Socialism makes society weak...

Any healthy economy kind of needs a combination of both, capitalism and socialism, in order to function properly. All of one and/or all of the other is not going to work!
Regulated capitalism with a social safety net works fine so far.

I would not call $20T debt ($17T GDP) "works fine". 1% growth, no plans for fix, increased spending built in. "Money don't grow on trees"....have u strolled thru a WalMart recently? Been to Asia lastc10 years? I rest case.

Right. I have never claimed that government spending isn't out of control. It is, but don't blame the poor people for that.
 
That is hyperbole, because no one is stopping you from feeding the poor and giving them shelter or healthcare. The fact you may feel better spending someone else's money doing so, is something all together different and disingenuous.

The fact is that charitable donations are not enough. People are too greedy.
So force people to do what other people think is right?
Freedom is beginning to be nonexistent in this country. LOL

Unfortunately, because of inherent greediness, that is what has to be done.
What? You're willing to trade away freedom because if greed? Mein Kampf ring a bell?

Again, very LITTLE of your taxpayer dollars are going towards helping out the poor people. Much, much more of your taxpayer dollars are going to help your multi billion dollar industries.
Blame the source of the ploblem... The career politician
 
If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks. :)
1 The 90s were good and Obama got us back on course. I don't want to go back to 2000-2008.

2. Hillary

3. Trumps lying and I don't want Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan legislation getting passed and supreme Court nominees

What is your concern with the SCOTUS nominees?
Take one look at Ginsberg and you cannot help being horrified.
I do believe Chris would like hillary more if she looked different.

People voted for bush over gore because they felt they could drink a beer with bush.

One 8 year recession and 2 wars later
 

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