Tell me . . .

[ChrisL]

And nobody expects that. That would be hyperbole. They should get food, shelter and healthcare.

That is hyperbole, because no one is stopping you from feeding the poor and giving them shelter or healthcare. The fact you may feel better spending someone else's money doing so, is something all together different and disingenuous.

The fact is that charitable donations are not enough. People are too greedy.

So force people to do what other people think is right?
Freedom is beginning to be nonexistent in this country. LOL

Unfortunately, because of inherent greediness, that is what has to be done.

What? You're willing to trade away freedom because if greed? Mein Kampf ring a bell?

So paying taxes takes away your freedom now? Good grief. Get a grip.

 

[yiostheoy]

If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks.

This election cycle I am not voting for President.
I am voting for a supreme court justice.

I believe Hillary will pick a left leaning justice.

I believe Trump will pick a moderate slanting right.

In my opinion, the court requires a moderate leaning right.

I agree with this. This is the one thing that would make me vote for Trump instead of Gary Johnson. My rights are too important to be trusted in the hands of a left leaning Supreme Court.

I don't know jack about G.Johnson but I know that Libertarians are soft on capital punishment.

If you don't have capital punishment then a murder is a free meal ticket with room and board while the family of the victim suffers forever.

 

[ChrisL]

If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks.

Nothing attracts me about Hillary or the national Democratic party. The Clintons walk away from trouble that would put most any Republican behind bars or the very least out of national politics. I grant you some of the accusations made against the Clintons over the are bogus and takes away from real issues that are legit.

As for Trump he has a buffoonish side that gets him trouble. However he won't take any crap from the Dems, he will hit them right back. That leads to some misfires, but over all I can live with that. I do believe immigration is two issues, legal and illegal. The Dems are bent on making it one. Also in general I agree with Trump on trade. "Free trade"?? Nothing is for free, that is very misleading to say the least. I believe I bilateral trade, not multilateral for the most part.

Trump got to where he is because McConnell, Ryan etc the DC GOP did not do their job in cutting off sanctuary cites, amnesty {as proposed by Obama) and some other items. The Democrats lying like rugs calling the GOP obstructionist. BO with a few exceptions got everything he wanted either by executive order, court decision or the GOP Congress rolling over.

I don't put much of any stock in party platforms. its political junkie reading and something for the media to try and feast on.

I agree with most of this. If the GOP didn't come across as such greedy bastards and got rid of some of their religious/moral platforms when it comes to other people's personal lives, I might consider voting for one of them someday. However, at this point in time, they are the enemy of the working class American, and that is a LOT of people that they are disenfranchising.

 

[ChrisL]

And nobody expects that. That would be hyperbole. They should get food, shelter and healthcare.

That is hyperbole, because no one is stopping you from feeding the poor and giving them shelter or healthcare. The fact you may feel better spending someone else's money doing so, is something all together different and disingenuous.

The fact is that charitable donations are not enough. People are too greedy.

So force people to do what other people think is right?
Freedom is beginning to be nonexistent in this country. LOL

Unfortunately, because of inherent greediness, that is what has to be done.

What? You're willing to trade away freedom because if greed? Mein Kampf ring a bell?

Again, very LITTLE of your taxpayer dollars are going towards helping out the poor people. Much, much more of your taxpayer dollars are going to help your multi billion dollar industries.

 

[yiostheoy]

If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks.

This election cycle I am not voting for President.
I am voting for a supreme court justice.

I believe Hillary will pick a left leaning justice.

I believe Trump will pick a moderate slanting right.

In my opinion, the court requires a moderate leaning right.

That's what I thought originally too.

But Trump has proved to be too crazy.

We are going to need to sacrifice the SCOTUS and live with Hillary -- no way around it.

 

[ChrisL]

If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks.

This election cycle I am not voting for President.
I am voting for a supreme court justice.

I believe Hillary will pick a left leaning justice.

I believe Trump will pick a moderate slanting right.

In my opinion, the court requires a moderate leaning right.

I agree with this. This is the one thing that would make me vote for Trump instead of Gary Johnson. My rights are too important to be trusted in the hands of a left leaning Supreme Court.

I don't know jack about G.Johnson but I know that Libertarians are soft on capital punishment.

If you don't have capital punishment then a murder is a free meal ticket with room and board while the family of the victim suffers forever.

Yup, I am an anti death penalty person. I don't want the government murdering citizens, especially when we already KNOW how corrupt they are. Prosecutors like to put another notch in their belts, and again it is most often the POOR who get railroaded.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Trump, because if he becomes President, the price of Bunnies and Bunny food will go down, then I will be able to afford three bunnies !!!

A house full of soft cuddly bunnies for everyone!

that could be one of his catch phrases,,,,,something like,,,,Vote For Trump, Save A Bunny !!!!

He would probably rather skin and eat the poor bunnies for the money.

so would harry ried

 

[ChrisL]

Trump, because if he becomes President, the price of Bunnies and Bunny food will go down, then I will be able to afford three bunnies !!!

A house full of soft cuddly bunnies for everyone!

that could be one of his catch phrases,,,,,something like,,,,Vote For Trump, Save A Bunny !!!!

He would probably rather skin and eat the poor bunnies for the money.

so would harry ried

Save the bunnies from state sanctioned murder!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Them paying taxes and not being able to circumvent paying their fair share is not "punishing" them. They should be contributing to the economy and the people who allow them to have a business to begin with.

Yes, Most business owners have risk in running their business their employees have no idea of the difficulty involved. I own 3 s corps. I have nothing to fall back on except my own discipline. The federal government owes me nothing...

That doesn't mean you don't have to pay your share in taxes. We the people do, and so do businesses.

Company's pay no taxes they just collect them, a company's only goal is to make money for the stock holders.

A company is not a person right?

Whaaaat? Company's now collect taxes??? Have you lost it or something? NO, they are not people, but they still have to pay taxes.

You never heard that phrase before?

They just pass it onto the consumer

 

[Rustic]

We've tried the "trickle down" theory during the George W. years. Didn't work. Time for a new approach and some fresh ideas. Otherwise, you are going to have some very ANGRY people, and both parties will suffer for it.

...and he was and is a progressive career politician
We've had many socialist entitlement programs for many, many decades now - things have only gotten worse because of the socialism in our government… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Honestly, what do you think things would be like if we had no social services to help the poor? I mean really think about it. Things have gotten worse because of stagnant wages and people losing their power to negotiate with employers because of share holders,etc.

Punish the successful?
The career politicians and their federal government enable bad corporate behavior, in fact they encourage it.

Punish the successful? How so?

Tax the hell out of them because they're successful, is that what you want to do? Wealth redistribution is an evil concept.
Who gives a shit how little or how much anyone makes? It certainly is not any of the federal government's business.
I think everyone here has heard the saying "life is not fair" well, it isn't tough shit deal with it.
My whole adolescence was spent growing up in a total shit hole, An absolute government controlled socialist Indian reservation.
It is not safe for the integrity of a person to rely on the federal government… Fact

 

[yiostheoy]

Answering polls is always fun as long as the poll is short and sweet !!

 

[SmokeALib]

That is hyperbole, because no one is stopping you from feeding the poor and giving them shelter or healthcare. The fact you may feel better spending someone else's money doing so, is something all together different and disingenuous.

The fact is that charitable donations are not enough. People are too greedy.

So force people to do what other people think is right?
Freedom is beginning to be nonexistent in this country. LOL

Unfortunately, because of inherent greediness, that is what has to be done.

What? You're willing to trade away freedom because if greed? Mein Kampf ring a bell?

Again, very LITTLE of your taxpayer dollars are going towards helping out the poor people. Much, much more of your taxpayer dollars are going to help your multi billion dollar industries.

Bullshit. For example - 140 BILLION/yr to the department of agriculture. What does this bureaucratic waste grow?
Screw your taxes. Absolutely zero accountability. Tax what I spend - not what I earn.

 

[yiostheoy]

If you are voting for either Hillary or Trump, tell me why.

1. What is about these candidates that attracts you?
2. Which of your chosen candidate's platforms/stances do you agree with?
3. Why are you against the "other guy"?

PLEASE answer the questions and stay on topic. Thanks.

This election cycle I am not voting for President.
I am voting for a supreme court justice.

I believe Hillary will pick a left leaning justice.

I believe Trump will pick a moderate slanting right.

In my opinion, the court requires a moderate leaning right.

I agree with this. This is the one thing that would make me vote for Trump instead of Gary Johnson. My rights are too important to be trusted in the hands of a left leaning Supreme Court.

I don't know jack about G.Johnson but I know that Libertarians are soft on capital punishment.

If you don't have capital punishment then a murder is a free meal ticket with room and board while the family of the victim suffers forever.

Yup, I am an anti death penalty person. I don't want the government murdering citizens, especially when we already KNOW how corrupt they are. Prosecutors like to put another notch in their belts, and again it is most often the POOR who get railroaded.

But if you give murderers only prison time for murder then it become a free meal ticket with room and board.

You sound like a perfect Libertarian so G.Johnson is your perfect choice. You should vote for him to send a message. The message unfortunately will be a wasted vote.

 

[ChrisL]

We've tried the "trickle down" theory during the George W. years. Didn't work. Time for a new approach and some fresh ideas. Otherwise, you are going to have some very ANGRY people, and both parties will suffer for it.

...and he was and is a progressive career politician
We've had many socialist entitlement programs for many, many decades now - things have only gotten worse because of the socialism in our government… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Honestly, what do you think things would be like if we had no social services to help the poor? I mean really think about it. Things have gotten worse because of stagnant wages and people losing their power to negotiate with employers because of share holders,etc.

Punish the successful?
The career politicians and their federal government enable bad corporate behavior, in fact they encourage it.

Punish the successful? How so?

Tax the hell out of them because they're successful, is that what you want to do? Wealth redistribution is an evil concept.
Who gives a shit how little or how much anyone makes? It certainly is not any of the federal government's business.
I think everyone here has heard the saying "life is not fair" well, it isn't tough shit deal with it.
My whole adolescence was spent growing up in a total shit hole, An absolute government controlled socialist Indian reservation.
It is not safe for the integrity of a person to rely on the federal government… Fact

No, but you must know about how they avoid paying taxes entirely sometimes. No? You weren't aware of that? The feds only distribute SOME money to the states. It is up to the states how they set up their social safety nets for their citizens. Hope you never find yourself between a rock and a hard place and know how it feels to not be able to feed your babies.

 

[Rustic]

I'm getting angry.......again. what society can last taking its best and brightest graduates and either work them to death or send off to war to die. Tax to max so they can't afford cost of Children of their own.

All the while paying the least productive to breed, rewarded with bigger checks to breed more. LBJ set it up well, Demwitts ride the wave, 50 years into it.

The average (I believe) that a person gets from welfare is about $300 per month! They then add on about 50-100 per child. What???? What makes you people think these people would CHOOSE to live like that?

Yes, Socialism makes society weak...

 

[ChrisL]

Any one of you could find yourselves poor one day. Think about that before you denigrate others.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm getting angry.......again. what society can last taking its best and brightest graduates and either work them to death or send off to war to die. Tax to max so they can't afford cost of Children of their own.

All the while paying the least productive to breed, rewarded with bigger checks to breed more. LBJ set it up well, Demwitts ride the wave, 50 years into it.

The average (I believe) that a person gets from welfare is about $300 per month! They then add on about 50-100 per child. What???? What makes you people think these people would CHOOSE to live like that?

Yes, Socialism makes society weak...

Any healthy economy kind of needs a combination of both, capitalism and socialism, in order to function properly. All of one and/or all of the other is not going to work!

 

[yiostheoy]

Some people are poor because they have a disease. They got cancer or whatever, lost their job because they can no longer work, and have outrageous medical expenses.

Shit happens, if people want to get involved in helping others out - fine. If someone doesn't want anything to do with helping out the so called "poor".
Everyday we are losing more and more of our personal freedoms do to political correctness, the country is sick with the cancer of socialism and it does not even know it. Lol

It is not socialism. I would recommend that you look up what socialism is. No country is going to be able to be healthy and productive with pure socialism or pure capitalism.

The crashes of 1929 and 2008, and the failure of the S&L industry, and environmental pollution by mines and industries, have all proven that unbridled capitalism is a crime.

 

[yiostheoy]

I'm getting angry.......again. what society can last taking its best and brightest graduates and either work them to death or send off to war to die. Tax to max so they can't afford cost of Children of their own.

All the while paying the least productive to breed, rewarded with bigger checks to breed more. LBJ set it up well, Demwitts ride the wave, 50 years into it.

The average (I believe) that a person gets from welfare is about $300 per month! They then add on about 50-100 per child. What???? What makes you people think these people would CHOOSE to live like that?

Yes, Socialism makes society weak...

Any healthy economy kind of needs a combination of both, capitalism and socialism, in order to function properly. All of one and/or all of the other is not going to work!

Regulated capitalism with a social safety net works fine so far.

 

[Hiryuu]

I agree with most of this. If the GOP didn't come across as such greedy bastards and got rid of some of their religious/moral platforms when it comes to other people's personal lives, I might consider voting for one of them someday. However, at this point in time, they are the enemy of the working class American, and that is a LOT of people that they are disenfranchising.

You have been duped into believing anything they do in the beltway is in service of anyone other than the politicians, and you keep giving them power to do the very thing you despise the most about them. It must have sucked when you realized subsidized healthcare insurance was intended to pay the big greedy corporations with taxpayer dollars as well as ensure votes, and you were stupid enough to buy that line about it being meant to help the poor. I mean damn, the cost of insurance went up for everyone who isn't on the dole.