Tell me . . .

[ChrisL]

If anything, our government should be using our tax money to help out our own people. That is the correct way to spend the money.

 

[Rustic]

This country is only been around short-term in the grand scheme of things, over the last hundred plus years Socialism has taken it's toll. Long-term Socialism has 100% failure rate...
In other words the country is fucked… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Sure, if we stopped giving aid to foreign countries and kept that money at home to help our own, we would be doing fine. Also, cutting corporate welfare. More power to the people! Less power to the corporate shills!

But you think the federal government is the right vessel in making things all right in the world??

 

[Hiryuu]

Perhaps, but it is not helping out the poor that is putting the dent in your wallet. The facts stand.

I didn't say it was helping the poor, nor that it had anything to do with the poor. It is just an example of why Conservatives don't approve of government corruption whether it be money laundering for the rich, poor or middle class. That is the core of smaller government. It means the government is less likely to be corrupted doing something it shouldn't be doing in the first place.

 

[owebo]

This country is only been around short-term in the grand scheme of things, over the last hundred plus years Socialism has taken it's toll. Long-term Socialism has 100% failure rate...
In other words the country is fucked… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Sure, if we stopped giving aid to foreign countries and kept that money at home to help our own, we would be doing fine. Also, cutting corporate welfare. More power to the people! Less power to the corporate shills!

Go Trump!!!!!!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

More bullshit. Complete fabricated bullshit. Like I said you got lots of propaganda. You don't know my tax burden nor my charitable contributions.
The FACT remains that YOU continue to blame others for the theft & squandering that the government does with your money.
Your positions are based on emotion not facts. I gave you the two facts that could draw jobs back to our country but you choose to be obtuse & ignore them.

I'm done here

Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare?

Think about that. The largest, wealthiest, most powerful organizations in the world are on the public dole. Where is the outrage? Back when I was young, people went into a frenzy at the thought of some unemployed person using food stamps to buy liquor or cigarettes. Ronald Reagan famously campaigned against welfare queens. The right has always been obsessed with moochers. But Boeing receives $13 billion in government handouts and everyone yawns, when conservatives should be grabbing their pitchforks.

According to Good Jobs First, there are 514 economic development programs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. More than 245,000 awards have been granted under those programs. I ask again, where is the outrage? The system is antithetical to the idea of free markets. A quarter of a million times, state governments decided what is best for producers and consumers. That should make us cringe. First, the government is inefficient at providing public goods, and it is terrible at manipulating the markets for private goods. But more importantly, those 514 economic development programs are almost all the result of insidious cronyism. Narrow business interests manipulate government policymakers, and those interests prosper to the detriment of everyone else. Free markets be damned.

The outrage is in the threads about those topics nitwit. And I have participated in those threads as well as created my own. THIS thread was about why people support who they support and you have derailed it by latching onto some uninformed propaganda about a topic somewhat unrelated to this thread. If you wanted to discuss corporate welfare create a thread about CORPORATE WELFARE. You seem to have the attention span of a gnat & it's quite amusing.

I'm telling you that it is not propaganda. It is a fact. I've posted several links that reveal these shocking facts. I know you are bringing up derailing the thread because you have no counter argument.

I thought you were leaving. I know, if you keep digging you will end up in China before you know it! Good place for you!

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

 

[ChrisL]

This country is only been around short-term in the grand scheme of things, over the last hundred plus years Socialism has taken it's toll. Long-term Socialism has 100% failure rate...
In other words the country is fucked… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Sure, if we stopped giving aid to foreign countries and kept that money at home to help our own, we would be doing fine. Also, cutting corporate welfare. More power to the people! Less power to the corporate shills!

But you think the federal government is the right vessel in making things all right in the world??

In the world? No. In our country? Sure, I have no problem with helping out the poor with my taxpayer dollars. As my link earlier indicated, charitable contributions were not enough. If we want to increase crime and poverty and sickness and death, then we would eliminate social services supports.

 

[ChrisL]

Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare?

Think about that. The largest, wealthiest, most powerful organizations in the world are on the public dole. Where is the outrage? Back when I was young, people went into a frenzy at the thought of some unemployed person using food stamps to buy liquor or cigarettes. Ronald Reagan famously campaigned against welfare queens. The right has always been obsessed with moochers. But Boeing receives $13 billion in government handouts and everyone yawns, when conservatives should be grabbing their pitchforks.

According to Good Jobs First, there are 514 economic development programs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. More than 245,000 awards have been granted under those programs. I ask again, where is the outrage? The system is antithetical to the idea of free markets. A quarter of a million times, state governments decided what is best for producers and consumers. That should make us cringe. First, the government is inefficient at providing public goods, and it is terrible at manipulating the markets for private goods. But more importantly, those 514 economic development programs are almost all the result of insidious cronyism. Narrow business interests manipulate government policymakers, and those interests prosper to the detriment of everyone else. Free markets be damned.

The outrage is in the threads about those topics nitwit. And I have participated in those threads as well as created my own. THIS thread was about why people support who they support and you have derailed it by latching onto some uninformed propaganda about a topic somewhat unrelated to this thread. If you wanted to discuss corporate welfare create a thread about CORPORATE WELFARE. You seem to have the attention span of a gnat & it's quite amusing.

I'm telling you that it is not propaganda. It is a fact. I've posted several links that reveal these shocking facts. I know you are bringing up derailing the thread because you have no counter argument.

I thought you were leaving. I know, if you keep digging you will end up in China before you know it! Good place for you!

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

 

[Rustic]

If anything, our government should be using our tax money to help out our own people. That is the correct way to spend the money.

The federal government should consist of the bear necessities, about at the turn of the last century is when they quit doing that. Any organization that thinks it's can be all things for all people is a fraudulent one.

 

[blackhawk]

Am undecided the thought of either one of them being President makes me sick.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The outrage is in the threads about those topics nitwit. And I have participated in those threads as well as created my own. THIS thread was about why people support who they support and you have derailed it by latching onto some uninformed propaganda about a topic somewhat unrelated to this thread. If you wanted to discuss corporate welfare create a thread about CORPORATE WELFARE. You seem to have the attention span of a gnat & it's quite amusing.

I'm telling you that it is not propaganda. It is a fact. I've posted several links that reveal these shocking facts. I know you are bringing up derailing the thread because you have no counter argument.

I thought you were leaving. I know, if you keep digging you will end up in China before you know it! Good place for you!

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

You invited everyone idiot. Good grief.

Spin baby spin

 

[ChrisL]

I'm telling you that it is not propaganda. It is a fact. I've posted several links that reveal these shocking facts. I know you are bringing up derailing the thread because you have no counter argument.

I thought you were leaving. I know, if you keep digging you will end up in China before you know it! Good place for you!

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

You invited everyone idiot. Good grief.

Spin baby spin

Nope, I would actually prefer if you left. So bye!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I thought you were leaving. I know, if you keep digging you will end up in China before you know it! Good place for you!

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

You invited everyone idiot. Good grief.

Spin baby spin

Nope, I would actually prefer if you left. So bye!

Need more rope? I'll gladly loan you about 7 ft....

 

[Rustic]

This country is only been around short-term in the grand scheme of things, over the last hundred plus years Socialism has taken it's toll. Long-term Socialism has 100% failure rate...
In other words the country is fucked… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Sure, if we stopped giving aid to foreign countries and kept that money at home to help our own, we would be doing fine. Also, cutting corporate welfare. More power to the people! Less power to the corporate shills!

But you think the federal government is the right vessel in making things all right in the world??

In the world? No. In our country? Sure, I have no problem with helping out the poor with my taxpayer dollars. As my link earlier indicated, charitable contributions were not enough. If we want to increase crime and poverty and sickness and death, then we would eliminate social services supports.

The problem is the federal government is about the worst possible choice in the "fairness" race, you do know career politicians own the federal government?
Forcing anyone to do anything against their will "all for the good of the people" is delusional…
Only good charity is a chosen charity, a forced charity would not be a charity at all would it??

 

[ChrisL]

I thought you were leaving. I know, if you keep digging you will end up in China before you know it! Good place for you!

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

You invited everyone idiot. Good grief.

Spin baby spin

Nope, I would actually prefer if you left. So bye!

Need more rope? I'll gladly loan you about 7 ft....

Bye bye gramps. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out!

 

[ChrisL]

This country is only been around short-term in the grand scheme of things, over the last hundred plus years Socialism has taken it's toll. Long-term Socialism has 100% failure rate...
In other words the country is fucked… LOL
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Sure, if we stopped giving aid to foreign countries and kept that money at home to help our own, we would be doing fine. Also, cutting corporate welfare. More power to the people! Less power to the corporate shills!

But you think the federal government is the right vessel in making things all right in the world??

In the world? No. In our country? Sure, I have no problem with helping out the poor with my taxpayer dollars. As my link earlier indicated, charitable contributions were not enough. If we want to increase crime and poverty and sickness and death, then we would eliminate social services supports.

The problem is the federal government is about the worst possible choice in the "fairness" race, you do know career politicians on the federal government?
Forcing anyone to do anything against their will "all for the good of the people" is delusional…
Only good charity is a chosen charity, a forced charity would not be a charity at all would it??

Before the welfare system came into being, during the depression (like in the link I posted that you obviously did not read), there were not nearly enough charitable donations to help the poor. People were destitute and especially children paid the price. THAT is why the welfare system was created. Don't understand why you people have such a "horror" at helping out the poor people. You are a bunch of assholes.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I'm done here means I realized that you're beyond reasoning and now it's time to mock your ignorance instead. You're a nitwit. Not a single person in this thread is pro corporate handouts. Not one. Yet your every posts consists of fighting that imaginary battle. You've successfully derailed your own thread and your too dumb to see it.

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

You invited everyone idiot. Good grief.

Spin baby spin

Nope, I would actually prefer if you left. So bye!

Need more rope? I'll gladly loan you about 7 ft....

Bye bye gramps. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out!

I got you on the hook. You can't control yourself at this point. Muuuuuust respoooond........last word hangs in the balance. Too much positive feedback on Trump, must self destruct the thread.....arghhhhhhhh!

 

[ChrisL]

Socialism is when the government takes ALL of your money and distributes it amongst everyone equally. That is not what welfare is.

You pay taxes, and some of your (and my) tax dollars go to help the poor. Stop bitching about poor people. It makes you look like a selfish, greedy, ungrateful asshole.

 

[ChrisL]

I only make 35,000 to 40,000 a year, and I'm not complaining about it! What's the matter with you people?

 

[ChrisL]

So you claim. I've read plenty of posts around here that would indicate otherwise. No one invited you to participate in this thread, feel free to abandon ship at any time. You will not be missed.

You invited everyone idiot. Good grief.

Spin baby spin

Nope, I would actually prefer if you left. So bye!

Need more rope? I'll gladly loan you about 7 ft....

Bye bye gramps. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out!

I got you on the hook. You can't control yourself at this point. Muuuuuust respoooond........last word hangs in the balance. Too much positive feedback on Trump, must self destruct the thread.....arghhhhhhhh!

You've got nothing. No facts, no links, nothing. Run along now, greedy grandpa.

 

[Hiryuu]

The problem is the federal government is about the worst possible choice in the "fairness" race, you do know career politicians on the federal government?
Forcing anyone to do anything against their will "all for the good of the people" is delusional…
Only good charity is a chosen charity, a forced charity would not be a charity at all would it??

I little to the contrary, what government redistribution allows isn't a charity of any kind unless it is described as "false charity". It simply allows people to think they have helped a family in need, when there is no possible way they could afford the same means in a direct or chosen charity.