Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

[PoliticalChic]

1. Traditionally, tenure means to give (someone) a permanent post, especially as a teacher or professor.


It is one of those perqs that Liberal/Progressives use to keep the teaching profession in line. Want graduated increases in income? Career advancement and a promise of eternal employment? Well....remain a lock-step Liberal and all will be well.


And having a coterie of 'lock-stepers' is essential to the indoctrination of students!
And those students, once indoctrinated, keep the tenure-givers in power.
See how that works? Hand in glove.



2. First....background. Tenure as concept and reward is a Liberal creation.
Bet you didn't know that academic tenure was a Progressive idea.

In the 19th century, university professors largely served at the pleasure of the board of trustees of the university. Sometimes, major donors could successfully remove professors or prohibit the hiring of certain individuals;…
Tenure (academic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The modern institution of academic tenure was hastened by progressive academia’s solidarity with E.A.Ross, progressive sociologist and social engineer and eugenicist. Like all good progressives, he was a racist.

His thesis was that immigration would lead to “race suicide,” and was influenced, as were most progressives, by German national socialists.

Know what eugenics is? The Progressive idea that government should simply kill people who don't fit their criterion.




3. E.A.Ross shared with Woodrow Wilson the belief that social progress had to realize innate differences between races: Africans and South Americans were close to being savages, and Asians might be more advanced but were degenerating.
He served as a tutor to Teddy Roosevelt on immigration, and T. Roosevelt wrote the introduction to Ross’s “Sin and Society.”
Gotta love those Progressives, huh?

a. “Observe immigrants…in their gatherings, washed and combed, and in their Sunday best…[They] are hirsute, low-browed, big-faced persons of obviously low mentality…[C]learly they belong in skins, in wattled huts at the close of the Great Ice Age. These ox-like men are descendants of those who always stayed behind.”
Ross wrote that in 1914.
David M. Kennedy, “Can We Still Afford To Be A Nation Of Immigrants?” Atlantic Monthly, Nov. 1996, p.52-68



4. Ross got a position at Stanford, but Stanford’s conservative grande dame and benefactor, Jane Lathrop Stanford disliked his loud and crude denunciation of Chinese ‘coolies,’as this position was at odds with the university's founding family, the Stanfords, who had made their fortune in Western rail construction - a major employer of Chinese laborers.
Ibid.


Stanford fired Ross, the bigot....the Progressive.

See where this is going? He didn't have tenure.

 

[DGS49]

There is nothing permanent about it. It is simply a principle that, after some years of experience and satisfactory performance, the bar for dismissal should be raised. You shouldn't be fired just because the department head doesn't like you.

In the ocean of problems confronting "higher education" today, the diminution of tenure is near the bottom.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is nothing permanent about it. It is simply a principle that, after some years of experience and satisfactory performance, the bar for dismissal should be raised. You shouldn't be fired just because the department head doesn't like you.

In the ocean of problems confronting "higher education" today, the diminution of tenure is near the bottom.

Stay with this thread, and I may be able to change your mind.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

Due to your problems with short term memory, you probably don't remember that my threads are akin to peeling an onion....layer by layer....leading to an unassailable conclusion.

A conclusion which, with mechanical reliability, destroys our worldviews.
My pleasure.

Won't be long before I force you into vulgarity.




And, like the onion mentioned above, on the outside I may appear rude, abrasive and sarcastic, but, just like an onion, when you peel away the layers, ...you'll find the same thing...and you'll cry like a baby.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ultra-conservative Oral Roberts University has tenured professors.

University Tenured Faculty - Oral Roberts University - A Christian College, based in Tulsa Oklahoma.

Proof the OP is once again full of sewage.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ultra-conservative Oral Roberts University has tenured professors.

University Tenured Faculty - Oral Roberts University - A Christian College, based in Tulsa Oklahoma.

Proof the OP is once again full of sewage.

See.....I realize I've upset you, using 'Liberalism' and 'defeat' in the same sentence....but what is it you imagine you've proven???

You've merely agreed that I am correct, and tenure is pro forma.
(better look that up)


The sewage, it seems, reversed course.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

Due to your problems with short term memory, you probably don't remember that my threads are akin to peeling an onion....layer by layer....leading to an unassailable conclusion.

A conclusion which, with mechanical reliability, destroys our worldviews.
My pleasure.

Won't be long before I force you into vulgarity.




And, like the onion mentioned above, on the outside I may appear rude, abrasive and sarcastic, but, just like an onion, when you peel away the layers, ...you'll find the same thing...and you'll cry like a baby.

Sweetcheeks, the only time I cry at what you post is from laughter at your pronouncements that you are educated enough to cut and paste anything that actually matters, which you are not of course. The joke is, you don't know that. Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter. Her books should be in the Humor section only her fans, like you, aren't in on the inside joke...

 

[imawhosure]

1. Traditionally, tenure means to give (someone) a permanent post, especially as a teacher or professor.


It is one of those perqs that Liberal/Progressives use to keep the teaching profession in line. Want graduated increases in income? Career advancement and a promise of eternal employment? Well....remain a lock-step Liberal and all will be well.


And having a coterie of 'lock-stepers' is essential to the indoctrination of students!
And those students, once indoctrinated, keep the tenure-givers in power.
See how that works? Hand in glove.



2. First....background. Tenure as concept and reward is a Liberal creation.
Bet you didn't know that academic tenure was a Progressive idea.

In the 19th century, university professors largely served at the pleasure of the board of trustees of the university. Sometimes, major donors could successfully remove professors or prohibit the hiring of certain individuals;…
Tenure (academic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The modern institution of academic tenure was hastened by progressive academia’s solidarity with E.A.Ross, progressive sociologist and social engineer and eugenicist. Like all good progressives, he was a racist.

His thesis was that immigration would lead to “race suicide,” and was influenced, as were most progressives, by German national socialists.

Know what eugenics is? The Progressive idea that government should simply kill people who don't fit their criterion.




3. E.A.Ross shared with Woodrow Wilson the belief that social progress had to realize innate differences between races: Africans and South Americans were close to being savages, and Asians might be more advanced but were degenerating.
He served as a tutor to Teddy Roosevelt on immigration, and T. Roosevelt wrote the introduction to Ross’s “Sin and Society.”
Gotta love those Progressives, huh?

a. “Observe immigrants…in their gatherings, washed and combed, and in their Sunday best…[They] are hirsute, low-browed, big-faced persons of obviously low mentality…[C]learly they belong in skins, in wattled huts at the close of the Great Ice Age. These ox-like men are descendants of those who always stayed behind.”
Ross wrote that in 1914.
David M. Kennedy, “Can We Still Afford To Be A Nation Of Immigrants?” Atlantic Monthly, Nov. 1996, p.52-68



4. Ross got a position at Stanford, but Stanford’s conservative grande dame and benefactor, Jane Lathrop Stanford disliked his loud and crude denunciation of Chinese ‘coolies,’as this position was at odds with the university's founding family, the Stanfords, who had made their fortune in Western rail construction - a major employer of Chinese laborers.
Ibid.


Stanford fired Ross, the bigot....the Progressive.

See where this is going? He didn't have tenure.

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

See now, "Paint" is painting a falsehood, no pun intended.

The people in charge are TEACHING, not putting forth suggestions. Your grade is secured through repeating principles, not through free thinking.

QUESTION---------> Who thinks a student got a superior grade in the USSR by saying Stalin sucked? Hitler sucked in Germany?

When you have academia all leaning in one direction, the answers they want are pretty clear. Most colleges are indoctrination centers, nothing more, nothing less. Same with state/federal run education, funded by YOU KNOW WHO.

Money is the mothers milk of liberalism, especially transfer of wealth. Allow parents to use the money put forth by the government at an institution that passes Federal muster but they get to choose, and watch how fast things change.

It is exactly why they keep this in a vice! Can you imagine poor people being taught anything different than what they are being taught politically today?

As an aside..........as I post this, I am down in Florida doing some work. Last night, it came across WINK news that a new law allows parents to opt out of having their children recite the pledge of allegiance to start their school day.

Think about that for a second! Here, the country who secures your safety, your right to vote and bear arms, your right to equality, the country you fled to now decides that you don't have to pledge allegiance to it; which means I suppose by extrapolation, you must have allegiance to somebody else.

Nothing wrong with the education system? We are really attempting to assimilate anyone? Come on people, it is your tax dollars paying for this, and isn't it time you say "enough is enough!"

If they want to pledge allegiance to Mexico, Venezuela, or anywhere else, that is fine. But are you going to allow them to vote as they get older to choose the path of YOUR country by what is best for the countries they are pledging allegiance to?

This is what our educational system has become, virtually controlled totally by liberals, and if you think there is something REALLY WRONG here, it is time you go to the polls, and send them a resounding message.........GO TO HELL, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL, do not pass go, and do not collect 200 of our dollars anymore!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ultra-conservative Oral Roberts University has tenured professors.

University Tenured Faculty - Oral Roberts University - A Christian College, based in Tulsa Oklahoma.

Proof the OP is once again full of sewage.

See.....I realize I've upset you, using 'Liberalism' and 'defeat' in the same sentence....but what is it you imagine you've proven???

You've merely agreed that I am correct, and tenure is pro forma.
(better look that up)


The sewage, it seems, reversed course.

I'm proving that tenure is widely offered at conservative colleges, thus demolishing your comical attempt to declare it 'progressive'.

Brigham Young, one of the most conservative universities in the country:

845 tenured faculty.

http://www.collegefactual.com/colle...sity-provo/academic-life/faculty-composition/

...lol, too easy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

Due to your problems with short term memory, you probably don't remember that my threads are akin to peeling an onion....layer by layer....leading to an unassailable conclusion.

A conclusion which, with mechanical reliability, destroys our worldviews.
My pleasure.

Won't be long before I force you into vulgarity.




And, like the onion mentioned above, on the outside I may appear rude, abrasive and sarcastic, but, just like an onion, when you peel away the layers, ...you'll find the same thing...and you'll cry like a baby.

Sweetcheeks, the only time I cry at what you post is from laughter at your pronouncements that you are educated enough to cut and paste anything that actually matters, which you are not of course. The joke is, you don't know that. Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter. Her books should be in the Humor section only her fans, like you, aren't in on the inside joke...

"Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter."

Wanna hum along?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ultra-conservative Oral Roberts University has tenured professors.

University Tenured Faculty - Oral Roberts University - A Christian College, based in Tulsa Oklahoma.

Proof the OP is once again full of sewage.

See.....I realize I've upset you, using 'Liberalism' and 'defeat' in the same sentence....but what is it you imagine you've proven???

You've merely agreed that I am correct, and tenure is pro forma.
(better look that up)


The sewage, it seems, reversed course.

I'm proving that tenure is widely offered at conservative colleges, thus demolishing your comical attempt to declare it 'progressive'.

Brigham Young, one of the most conservative universities in the country:

845 tenured faculty.

http://www.collegefactual.com/colle...sity-provo/academic-life/faculty-composition/

...lol, too easy.

"I'm proving that tenure is widely offered..."

I just said that.


Stop trying to suck up.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

This is what our educational system has become, virtually controlled totally by liberals, and if you think there is something REALLY WRONG here, it is time you go to the polls, and send them a resounding message.........GO TO HELL, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL, do not pass go, and do not collect 200 of our dollars anymore!

Teaching, like journalism, is a liberal profession. It will have, like life, a liberal bent. Liberalism grants you liberty. Why you would oppose that God only knows.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

Due to your problems with short term memory, you probably don't remember that my threads are akin to peeling an onion....layer by layer....leading to an unassailable conclusion.

A conclusion which, with mechanical reliability, destroys our worldviews.
My pleasure.

Won't be long before I force you into vulgarity.




And, like the onion mentioned above, on the outside I may appear rude, abrasive and sarcastic, but, just like an onion, when you peel away the layers, ...you'll find the same thing...and you'll cry like a baby.

Sweetcheeks, the only time I cry at what you post is from laughter at your pronouncements that you are educated enough to cut and paste anything that actually matters, which you are not of course. The joke is, you don't know that. Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter. Her books should be in the Humor section only her fans, like you, aren't in on the inside joke...

"Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter."

Wanna hum along?

Shameful that you would insult such a well-respected and honorable institution, by pretending you attended it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is what our educational system has become, virtually controlled totally by liberals, and if you think there is something REALLY WRONG here, it is time you go to the polls, and send them a resounding message.........GO TO HELL, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL, do not pass go, and do not collect 200 of our dollars anymore!

Teaching, like journalism, is a liberal profession. It will have, like life, a liberal bent. Liberalism grants you liberty. Why you would oppose that God only knows.

The essence of the thread is not teaching....it's tenure.

It was espoused by Progressives to support the racist E.A. Ross....
But, I'll include socialists like you, too:


5. Numerous professors at Stanford resigned after protests of Ross' dismissal, sparking "a national debate.”Progressive organizations led by Richard Ely’s American Economic Association, rallied to his cause.

The NYTimesand other newspapers editorialized on Ross's behalf.


a. A note here about Richard Ely, and Liberalism...

"...[John] Dewey arguably did more than any other reformer to repackage progressive social theory in a way that obscured just how radically its principles departed from those of the American founding. Like Ely and many of his fellow progressive academics, Dewey initially embraced the term “socialism” to describe his social theory. Only after realizing how damaging the name was to the socialist cause did he, like other progressives, begin to avoid it. In the early 1930s, accordingly, Dewey begged the Socialist party, of which he was a longtime member, to change its name. “The greatest handicap from which special measures favored by the Socialists suffer,” Dewey declared, “is that they are advanced by the Socialist party as Socialism. The prejudice against the name may be a regrettable prejudice but its influence is so powerful that it is much more reasonable to imagine all but the most dogmatic Socialists joining a new party than to imagine any considerable part of the American people going over to them.” Dewey’s influential 1935 tract, Liberalism and Social Action, should be read in the light of this." The Refounding of America




6. But, Ross moved on to the University of Nebraska, where he worked with Roscoe Pound, on ‘sociological jurisprudence,’ and modern liberalism’s “living Constitution.”
In 1915, this was followed by the American Association of University Professors' (AAUP)declarationof principles—the traditional justification for academic freedom and tenure. In 1940, the AAUP recommended that the academic tenure probationary period be seven years -- still the current norm.
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


Bet you don't recognize the name "Roscoe Pound."

He, along with Christopher Columbus Langdell are responsible for changing the study of law from the guidance of the Constitution to judicial decisions....'case law.'


Progressives....authors of the graffiti we call modern American history.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

Due to your problems with short term memory, you probably don't remember that my threads are akin to peeling an onion....layer by layer....leading to an unassailable conclusion.

A conclusion which, with mechanical reliability, destroys our worldviews.
My pleasure.

Won't be long before I force you into vulgarity.




And, like the onion mentioned above, on the outside I may appear rude, abrasive and sarcastic, but, just like an onion, when you peel away the layers, ...you'll find the same thing...and you'll cry like a baby.

Sweetcheeks, the only time I cry at what you post is from laughter at your pronouncements that you are educated enough to cut and paste anything that actually matters, which you are not of course. The joke is, you don't know that. Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter. Her books should be in the Humor section only her fans, like you, aren't in on the inside joke...

"Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter."

Wanna hum along?

Shameful that you would insult such a well-respected and honorable institution, by pretending you attended it.

Oooooo......look who's jealous!



Stand up for your alma mater....
Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Clown College

 

[PaintMyHouse]

This is what our educational system has become, virtually controlled totally by liberals, and if you think there is something REALLY WRONG here, it is time you go to the polls, and send them a resounding message.........GO TO HELL, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL, do not pass go, and do not collect 200 of our dollars anymore!

Teaching, like journalism, is a liberal profession. It will have, like life, a liberal bent. Liberalism grants you liberty. Why you would oppose that God only knows.

The essence is no teaching....it's tenure.

It was espoused by Progressives to support the racist E.A. Ross....
But, I'll include socialists like you, too:


5. Numerous professors at Stanford resigned after protests of Ross' dismissal, sparking "a national debate.”Progressive organizations led by Richard Ely’s American Economic Association, rallied to his cause.

The NYTimesand other newspapers editorialized on Ross's behalf.


a. A note here about Richard Ely, and Liberalism...

"...[John] Dewey arguably did more than any other reformer to repackage progressive social theory in a way that obscured just how radically its principles departed from those of the American founding. Like Ely and many of his fellow progressive academics, Dewey initially embraced the term “socialism” to describe his social theory. Only after realizing how damaging the name was to the socialist cause did he, like other progressives, begin to avoid it. In the early 1930s, accordingly, Dewey begged the Socialist party, of which he was a longtime member, to change its name. “The greatest handicap from which special measures favored by the Socialists suffer,” Dewey declared, “is that they are advanced by the Socialist party as Socialism. The prejudice against the name may be a regrettable prejudice but its influence is so powerful that it is much more reasonable to imagine all but the most dogmatic Socialists joining a new party than to imagine any considerable part of the American people going over to them.” Dewey’s influential 1935 tract, Liberalism and Social Action, should be read in the light of this." The Refounding of America




6. But, Ross moved on to the University of Nebraska, where he worked with Roscoe Pound, on ‘sociological jurisprudence,’ and modern liberalism’s “living Constitution.”
In 1915, this was followed by the American Association of University Professors' (AAUP)declarationof principles—the traditional justification for academic freedom and tenure. In 1940, the AAUP recommended that the academic tenure probationary period be seven years -- still the current norm.
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


Bet you don't recognize the name "Roscoe Pound."

He, along with Christopher Columbus Langdell are responsible for changing the study of law from the guidance of the Constitution to judicial decisions....'case law.'


Progressives....authors of the graffiti we call modern American history.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is what our educational system has become, virtually controlled totally by liberals, and if you think there is something REALLY WRONG here, it is time you go to the polls, and send them a resounding message.........GO TO HELL, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL, do not pass go, and do not collect 200 of our dollars anymore!

Teaching, like journalism, is a liberal profession. It will have, like life, a liberal bent. Liberalism grants you liberty. Why you would oppose that God only knows.

The essence is no teaching....it's tenure.

It was espoused by Progressives to support the racist E.A. Ross....
But, I'll include socialists like you, too:


5. Numerous professors at Stanford resigned after protests of Ross' dismissal, sparking "a national debate.”Progressive organizations led by Richard Ely’s American Economic Association, rallied to his cause.

The NYTimesand other newspapers editorialized on Ross's behalf.


a. A note here about Richard Ely, and Liberalism...

"...[John] Dewey arguably did more than any other reformer to repackage progressive social theory in a way that obscured just how radically its principles departed from those of the American founding. Like Ely and many of his fellow progressive academics, Dewey initially embraced the term “socialism” to describe his social theory. Only after realizing how damaging the name was to the socialist cause did he, like other progressives, begin to avoid it. In the early 1930s, accordingly, Dewey begged the Socialist party, of which he was a longtime member, to change its name. “The greatest handicap from which special measures favored by the Socialists suffer,” Dewey declared, “is that they are advanced by the Socialist party as Socialism. The prejudice against the name may be a regrettable prejudice but its influence is so powerful that it is much more reasonable to imagine all but the most dogmatic Socialists joining a new party than to imagine any considerable part of the American people going over to them.” Dewey’s influential 1935 tract, Liberalism and Social Action, should be read in the light of this." The Refounding of America




6. But, Ross moved on to the University of Nebraska, where he worked with Roscoe Pound, on ‘sociological jurisprudence,’ and modern liberalism’s “living Constitution.”
In 1915, this was followed by the American Association of University Professors' (AAUP)declarationof principles—the traditional justification for academic freedom and tenure. In 1940, the AAUP recommended that the academic tenure probationary period be seven years -- still the current norm.
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


Bet you don't recognize the name "Roscoe Pound."

He, along with Christopher Columbus Langdell are responsible for changing the study of law from the guidance of the Constitution to judicial decisions....'case law.'


Progressives....authors of the graffiti we call modern American history.

You're giving up this early?????

Oh, noooozzzzzz!

 

[imawhosure]

This is what our educational system has become, virtually controlled totally by liberals, and if you think there is something REALLY WRONG here, it is time you go to the polls, and send them a resounding message.........GO TO HELL, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL, do not pass go, and do not collect 200 of our dollars anymore!

Teaching, like journalism, is a liberal profession. It will have, like life, a liberal bent. Liberalism grants you liberty. Why you would oppose that God only knows.

Freedom is choices, plain and simple. If the left would allow choice in schools and education, as much as it demands choice for abortion, I believe the country would not be so divided.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tenure: A Defeat for Liberalism???

Academic freedom, not liberalism. You do like people to speak their minds right? Oh wait, how would you know since all you can do is post what others say...

Due to your problems with short term memory, you probably don't remember that my threads are akin to peeling an onion....layer by layer....leading to an unassailable conclusion.

A conclusion which, with mechanical reliability, destroys our worldviews.
My pleasure.

Won't be long before I force you into vulgarity.




And, like the onion mentioned above, on the outside I may appear rude, abrasive and sarcastic, but, just like an onion, when you peel away the layers, ...you'll find the same thing...and you'll cry like a baby.

Sweetcheeks, the only time I cry at what you post is from laughter at your pronouncements that you are educated enough to cut and paste anything that actually matters, which you are not of course. The joke is, you don't know that. Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter. Her books should be in the Humor section only her fans, like you, aren't in on the inside joke...

"Your "education" comes from partisan hacks like Coulter."

Wanna hum along?

Shameful that you would insult such a well-respected and honorable institution, by pretending you attended it.

Oooooo......look who's jealous!



Stand up for your alma mater....
Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Clown College

Even if you had attended anything like a good school, beyond cleaning the bathrooms, I wouldn't be jealous. I have pity for you, nothing else. You've been lied to your whole life, and don't know it...