Texas Files Lawsuit at SCOTUS Against GA, PA, MI, and WI

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!

Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules

Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court before midnight on Monday challenging election results in four other states.

www.breitbart.com

Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:​

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Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.​

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This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.​

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Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.​

Yuh huh.

And just HOW exactly is Texas "injured" by what the fuck some other state is doing? Hm?

The reference Article II Section 1 Clause 2 reads, and we know it well by now:

>> Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. <<

Read it again --- "in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct". Not "in such Manner as the AG of Frickin' Texas may direct".

This clown should be disbarred.

So tell the class, where does it say the State SOS can enter into a consent decree and alter what the legislature directed? Dumb fucking commie.

Maybe this post comes in English.

Maybe not.

Poor commie, did I use too many big words? LMAO.

Sorry Tovarich, I don't speak 1949. Today we use what we call "verbs".

But hey, if you wish to remain oblique, have fun.

Oh boy, another commie being stupid. Your comrade posted about the powers of a governor in an emergency. I asked a simple question about a SOS illegally entering into a consent decree to alter the legislature directed operation of their election. If you are too stupid to read simple english, well, that's on you.

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That idea will get laughed out of court. There is your answet.

 

[meaner gene]

The PA Constitution gives specific means and methods to mail-in ballots, to which the PA legislature agreed to change, but not by ammendment to their own state Consitution, which they needed to do, started but then abandoned that effort.

Actually the PA constitution does not mention main-in ballots. They define absentee ballots, which are restricted to those out of state, or if within the state unable to vote in-person due to job, illness or physical handicap.

What the PA legislature did, was to write a new law not addressed by their constitution. Not change the law in their constitution.

 

[OKTexas]

So the SC would need to vastly narrow is interruption, which would effect all 50 States who have used the broad interruption to make their election laws.

This is exampled by the USSC letting stand the Pennsylvania supreme court adding three days to the deadline for absentee ballots.

That was done by a 4-4 vote, Roberts is an embarrassment.

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[Eric Arthur Blair]

The broad view is that since the legislatures gave the right to determine the Slate of electors to the peoples popular vote, they delegated the power to the states elections laws and all of those who make and carry out the law. At least that's how I understand it and how governor Abbot was about to alter the dates for mail-in ballots here in Texas.

Leaving election law up to a person, rather than a body that could deliberate the law
and leave it up to a broad spectrum of views pro and con (including the people themselves)
would greatly decrease the chance of a partisan extremist (like Jocelyn Benson of Wisconsin. brought into office by George Soros' program to inject more progressive leftists into state governments) rising to power and using her Secretary of State office to unilaterally change Wisconsin election laws.

She alone demonstrates the wisdom of not leaving election law to state officials that could drive a state
in a particular radical direction feeling a legislature would bring a more moderating influence.
Wisdom of the founders once more.

As far as what Greg Abbot was "about" to do....get back to me when he does change Texas election law himself.

 

[Flash]

Our Founding Fathers knew we couldn't soley reply upon the Judicial branch to protect our Liberty.

That is why we have the Second Amendment.

 

[meaner gene]

Oh boy, another commie being stupid. Your comrade posted about the powers of a governor in an emergency. I asked a simple question about a SOS illegally entering into a consent decree to alter the legislature directed operation of their election. If you are too stupid to read simple english, well, that's on you.

The problem with that argument is that this is a matter of strict liability. If an agent of the state exceeds his authority in making a contract, it does not invalidate the contract.

 

[meaner gene]

This is exampled by the USSC letting stand the Pennsylvania supreme court adding three days to the deadline for absentee ballots.

That was done by a 4-4 vote, Roberts is an embarrassment.

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

How far in advance. Absentee ballots go out 45 days in advance of the election, and the post office said there could be weeks of delay.

As far in advance as possible. As someone who worked in the PO for years I know certain mail (political
and tax returns in particular) get expedited treatment.
If you have your mail in ballot and just sit around holding onto it what are you waiting for?

 

[meaner gene]

Leaving election law up to a person, rather than a body that could deliberate the law
and leave it up to a broad spectrum of views pro and con (including the people themselves)
would greatly decrease the chance of a partisan extremist (like Jocelyn Benson of Wisconsin. brought into office by George Soros' program to inject more progressive leftists into state governments) rising to power and using her Secretary of State office to unilaterally change Wisconsin election laws.

Well, this is what happens when the president doesn't address a coming pandemic, and the states have to declare an emergency, which triggers the chief executives grant of vastly expanded powers over everything from the laws to the budget.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The USSC defined "state legislature" to include anyone the legislature cedes that authority to. And many states cede to the chief executive the power to change laws during a declared emergency.

And the pandemic has been universally declared an emergency.

IF a state legislature cedes away their authority (IF) to actually make political law then that's that.
But I'm not aware of any such arrangement.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So the SC would need to vastly narrow is interruption, which would effect all 50 States who have used the broad interruption to make their election laws.

This is exampled by the USSC letting stand the Pennsylvania supreme court adding three days to the deadline for absentee ballots.

That was done by a 4-4 vote, Roberts is an embarrassment.

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Haha, look at you... disappointed that a scotus judge wont make a corrupt decision based on partisanship...

 

[meaner gene]

As someone who worked in the PO for years I know certain mail (political
and tax returns in particular) get expedited treatment.

Did you know the post office dismantled or threw away hundreds of mail sorting machines, each capable of sorting over half a million letters a day?
They cut overtime hours and told carriers if they couldn't finish their route, tough shit to the undelivered mail.

 

[meaner gene]

IF a state legislature cedes away their authority (IF) to actually make political law then that's that.
But I'm not aware of any such arrangement.

If they don't specify which laws the executive can or can't change. Then they're allowed to change them all, as long as they're doing so because of the emergency, and it's for the purpose of health and safety.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Did you know the post office dismantled or threw away hundreds of mail sorting machines, each capable of sorting over half a million letters a day?
They cut overtime hours and told carriers if they couldn't finish their route, touch shit to the undelivered mail.

I've heard that urban myth but have never seen it confirmed and don't know how that matters to the
larger subject.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If they don't specify which laws the executive can or can't change. Then they're allowed to change them all, as long as they're doing so because of the emergency, and it's for the purpose of health and safety.

Again, don't forget about reality in all this. There is no state I'm aware of where the state legislators have just
turned over control carte blanche to the governor.
Maybe which business' can stay open and not. But that's about it.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

the problem with the Texas lawsuit is that they can win the case, but the USSC will still not overturn the election, they will tell the states to reform their election laws

 

[OKTexas]

Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!

Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules

Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court before midnight on Monday challenging election results in four other states.

www.breitbart.com

Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:​

​

Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.​

…​

This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.​

​

Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.​

Yuh huh.

And just HOW exactly is Texas "injured" by what the fuck some other state is doing? Hm?

The reference Article II Section 1 Clause 2 reads, and we know it well by now:

>> Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. <<

Read it again --- "in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct". Not "in such Manner as the AG of Frickin' Texas may direct".

This clown should be disbarred.

So tell the class, where does it say the State SOS can enter into a consent decree and alter what the legislature directed? Dumb fucking commie.

Maybe this post comes in English.

Maybe not.

Poor commie, did I use too many big words? LMAO.

Sorry Tovarich, I don't speak 1949. Today we use what we call "verbs".

But hey, if you wish to remain oblique, have fun.

Oh boy, another commie being stupid. Your comrade posted about the powers of a governor in an emergency. I asked a simple question about a SOS illegally entering into a consent decree to alter the legislature directed operation of their election. If you are too stupid to read simple english, well, that's on you.

.

That idea will get laughed out of court. There is your answet.

What's an "answet"?

.

 

[BlindBoo]

Leaving election law up to a person, rather than a body

The laws were first passed by each states legislatures.

 

[Toro]

 

[meaner gene]

Did you know the post office dismantled or threw away hundreds of mail sorting machines, each capable of sorting over half a million letters a day?
They cut overtime hours and told carriers if they couldn't finish their route, touch shit to the undelivered mail.

I've heard that urban myth but have never seen it confirmed and don't know how that matters to the
larger subject.

It's not an urban myth, it's what Trump fostered onto the post office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/14/postal-service-trump-dejoy-delay-mail/

The new head of the U.S. Postal Service established major operational changes Monday that could slow down mail delivery

Traditionally, postal workers are trained not to leave letters behind and to make multiple delivery trips to ensure timely distribution of letters and parcels.

[the hew rules]

“If the plants run late, they will keep the mail for the next day,” according to a document titled, “New PMG’s [Postmaster General’s] expectations and plan.