Texas Gov. Greg Abbott: ‘Federal Judge Just Granted My Request to Halt Obama’s Executive Amnesty

[BULLDOG]

I've mentioned my heritage many times before, but you'll just have to guess puta.

Then you shouldnt mind answering the question now.

I am a citizen of the United States, and have been all my life. What difference does it make if my ancestors came from Mexico, Ireland, France, Africa, Australia, or England? They did come from at least one of those countries. Where did your ancestors come from, and does it make a difference?

I'm Dutch. But you wont hear me condoning massive Dutch immigration.
Because I'm American first and foremost.

As am I.

Then why would you condone illegal immigration?

Please remind me where I ever condoned illegal immigration. I don't remember doing that. This is a discussion about the millions of undocumented immigrants that are here now.

 

[RKMBrown]

Then you shouldnt mind answering the question now.

I am a citizen of the United States, and have been all my life. What difference does it make if my ancestors came from Mexico, Ireland, France, Africa, Australia, or England? They did come from at least one of those countries. Where did your ancestors come from, and does it make a difference?

I'm Dutch. But you wont hear me condoning massive Dutch immigration.
Because I'm American first and foremost.

As am I.

Then why would you condone illegal immigration?

Please remind me where I ever condoned illegal immigration. I don't remember doing that. This is a discussion about the millions of undocumented immigrants that are here now.

ROFL... ROFL.... undocumented is illegal, ya dumb ass

 

[Care4all]

From the post you quoted "temporary legal status". That being said, I don't know if there is an official name for this status, but seeing as the formerly illegal immigrants are will be granted documents such as social security cards, it does seem like an appropriate discription. Also, it's temporary because Obama has just 2 more years a president.

The post I quoted that included "temporary legal status" was your post. I never used that term. You did, and your use is inaccurate. There are too many here to deport all of them at once, so some sort of priority must be determined for deportations. Any sane person would agree that violent criminals should be the first group to concentrate on, and families who are working and raising their kids, and are virtually undistinguishable from any other normal family should be left for later. This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. They aren't at least as advantageous to the country as citizens, they don't qualify for the deferral. If the crazy house would have allowed a vote on immigration reform, this wouldn't be necessary anyway. I know you have already heard all of this many times before, but you would rather make dumb statements than look at the reality of what this is.

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

Also, if the EO simply deferred deportation, it would not make illegal immergrants eligible for Texas drivers licenses (assuming that they are in Texas).

There has never been a deferred deportation done by executive order that did not INCLUDE those being deferred given the opportunity to get driver's licenses and papers to work legally.

Reagan's deferral included both, Bush's deferral included both.... driver's licenses and working papers.

A president does not issue a deferral without the opportunity to get driver's licenses and working papers.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The post I quoted that included "temporary legal status" was your post. I never used that term. You did, and your use is inaccurate. There are too many here to deport all of them at once, so some sort of priority must be determined for deportations. Any sane person would agree that violent criminals should be the first group to concentrate on, and families who are working and raising their kids, and are virtually undistinguishable from any other normal family should be left for later. This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. They aren't at least as advantageous to the country as citizens, they don't qualify for the deferral. If the crazy house would have allowed a vote on immigration reform, this wouldn't be necessary anyway. I know you have already heard all of this many times before, but you would rather make dumb statements than look at the reality of what this is.

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

Also, if the EO simply deferred deportation, it would not make illegal immergrants eligible for Texas drivers licenses (assuming that they are in Texas).

Because it doesn't simply defer deportation. It defers deportation and offers a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. Didn't you read my earlier post?

You are denying Americans jobs by flooding the market with hispanics.
There can only be two reasons. You're a dem who's trying to stack the deck or you're part of the subversive attempt to take over America a la La Raza.
So which are you?

 

[JoeMoma]

The post I quoted that included "temporary legal status" was your post. I never used that term. You did, and your use is inaccurate. There are too many here to deport all of them at once, so some sort of priority must be determined for deportations. Any sane person would agree that violent criminals should be the first group to concentrate on, and families who are working and raising their kids, and are virtually undistinguishable from any other normal family should be left for later. This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. They aren't at least as advantageous to the country as citizens, they don't qualify for the deferral. If the crazy house would have allowed a vote on immigration reform, this wouldn't be necessary anyway. I know you have already heard all of this many times before, but you would rather make dumb statements than look at the reality of what this is.

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

Also, if the EO simply deferred deportation, it would not make illegal immergrants eligible for Texas drivers licenses (assuming that they are in Texas).

Because it doesn't simply defer deportation. It defers deportation and offers a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. Didn't you read my earlier post?

I see that you are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[JoeMoma]

The post I quoted that included "temporary legal status" was your post. I never used that term. You did, and your use is inaccurate. There are too many here to deport all of them at once, so some sort of priority must be determined for deportations. Any sane person would agree that violent criminals should be the first group to concentrate on, and families who are working and raising their kids, and are virtually undistinguishable from any other normal family should be left for later. This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. They aren't at least as advantageous to the country as citizens, they don't qualify for the deferral. If the crazy house would have allowed a vote on immigration reform, this wouldn't be necessary anyway. I know you have already heard all of this many times before, but you would rather make dumb statements than look at the reality of what this is.

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

Also, if the EO simply deferred deportation, it would not make illegal immergrants eligible for Texas drivers licenses (assuming that they are in Texas).

There has never been a deferred deportation done by executive order that did not INCLUDE those being deferred given the opportunity to get driver's licenses and papers to work legally.

Reagan's deferral included both, Bush's deferral included both.... driver's licenses and working papers.

A president does not issue a deferral without the opportunity to get driver's licenses and working papers.

Then what they did was also unconstitutional if it contracted current law at the time.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Then you shouldnt mind answering the question now.

I am a citizen of the United States, and have been all my life. What difference does it make if my ancestors came from Mexico, Ireland, France, Africa, Australia, or England? They did come from at least one of those countries. Where did your ancestors come from, and does it make a difference?

I'm Dutch. But you wont hear me condoning massive Dutch immigration.
Because I'm American first and foremost.

As am I.

Then why would you condone illegal immigration?

Please remind me where I ever condoned illegal immigration. I don't remember doing that. This is a discussion about the millions of undocumented immigrants that are here now.

Faulty logic in the extreme.

 

[JoeMoma]

Unfortunately sometimes our government gets away with doing things that are unconstitional because it goes unchallenged.

 

[BULLDOG]

The post I quoted that included "temporary legal status" was your post. I never used that term. You did, and your use is inaccurate. There are too many here to deport all of them at once, so some sort of priority must be determined for deportations. Any sane person would agree that violent criminals should be the first group to concentrate on, and families who are working and raising their kids, and are virtually undistinguishable from any other normal family should be left for later. This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. They aren't at least as advantageous to the country as citizens, they don't qualify for the deferral. If the crazy house would have allowed a vote on immigration reform, this wouldn't be necessary anyway. I know you have already heard all of this many times before, but you would rather make dumb statements than look at the reality of what this is.

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

No contradiction at all. How does one preclude the other? Why do you think an executive order can only deal with one aspect of a problem? That's just silly.

So you are saying that the EO is a route for the illegal immigrants to become citizens? And you really think that is not a contradiction to it just being a deferral of deportation!!!! Oh my goodness!

Again, there is no reason one part would preclude the other. Let me put this in terms you might understand. Watch this video, and instead of Certs, think "Obama's Executive Order" and instead of the word mints, think " steps"

 

[Care4all]

This decision was on the deferral of the parents of LEGAL US citizen children....

These US citizen children are eligible for food stamps and welfare and school lunches and day care costs for the parents etc etc etc......and they make eligibility based on means testing...based on legal income.... if you do not allow the parents of these US CITIZEN children to work legally and with reporting of such income, then they can lie until the cows come home, on what their income is, making their children eligible for every welfare program under the sun....

I think it is important for us to give these parents working papers and make them eligible to work legally, so that we bring them above board instead of them working under the table.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

This decision was on the deferral of the parents of LEGAL US citizen children....

These US citizen children are eligible for food stamps and welfare and school lunches and day care costs for the parents etc etc etc......and they make eligibility based on means testing...based on legal income.... if you do not allow the parents of these US CITIZEN children to work legally and with reporting of such income, then they can lie until the cows come home, on what their income is, making their children eligible for every welfare program under the sun....

I think it is important for us to give these parents working papers and make them eligible to work legally, so that we bring them above board instead of them working under the table.

That and stacking the deck for democrats of course.
You're way more transparent than obama.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I'll be happy to have a reasonable discussion with you, but that question is just too stupid to answer.

No it's not too stupid a question. Do you believe illegal aliens/ non sovereign citizens who ignored our legal immigration laws breaking into our country should be able to vote in our elections? It's a simple yes or no question. Please answer.

Of course it is a stupid question. Illegal immigrants can't vote in elections and the only people talking about it are crazy right wing radio listeners and fox drones. Just another manufactured outrage based on nothing but teabaggers imagination. Certainly not something for reasonable discussion.

I know I've already asked this but you failed to respond.
Are you of hispanic descent?
I think it's a fair question when someone condones the onslaught of illegals in this country.
You know,just to give us some insight on your motives.

Using your insight, we can see your motives are anti-Hispanic, whether citizen or not.

Wrong. I was engaged to an hispanic girl.
Try again.

And there it is. She broke up with you, she was an illegal, and you cannot stand Hispanics. Obvious.

 

[JoeMoma]

No it's not too stupid a question. Do you believe illegal aliens/ non sovereign citizens who ignored our legal immigration laws breaking into our country should be able to vote in our elections? It's a simple yes or no question. Please answer.

Of course it is a stupid question. Illegal immigrants can't vote in elections and the only people talking about it are crazy right wing radio listeners and fox drones. Just another manufactured outrage based on nothing but teabaggers imagination. Certainly not something for reasonable discussion.

I know I've already asked this but you failed to respond.
Are you of hispanic descent?
I think it's a fair question when someone condones the onslaught of illegals in this country.
You know,just to give us some insight on your motives.

Using your insight, we can see your motives are anti-Hispanic, whether citizen or not.

Wrong. I was engaged to an hispanic girl.
Try again.

And there it is. She broke up with you, she was an illegal, and you cannot stand Hispanics. Obvious.

Why do you think she was an illegal?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Of course it is a stupid question. Illegal immigrants can't vote in elections and the only people talking about it are crazy right wing radio listeners and fox drones. Just another manufactured outrage based on nothing but teabaggers imagination. Certainly not something for reasonable discussion.

I know I've already asked this but you failed to respond.
Are you of hispanic descent?
I think it's a fair question when someone condones the onslaught of illegals in this country.
You know,just to give us some insight on your motives.

Using your insight, we can see your motives are anti-Hispanic, whether citizen or not.

Wrong. I was engaged to an hispanic girl.
Try again.

And there it is. She broke up with you, she was an illegal, and you cannot stand Hispanics. Obvious.

Why do you think she was an illegal?

Where did you get that funny ass moniker?

You are not taken seriously

 

[JoeMoma]

I know I've already asked this but you failed to respond.
Are you of hispanic descent?
I think it's a fair question when someone condones the onslaught of illegals in this country.
You know,just to give us some insight on your motives.

Using your insight, we can see your motives are anti-Hispanic, whether citizen or not.

Wrong. I was engaged to an hispanic girl.
Try again.

And there it is. She broke up with you, she was an illegal, and you cannot stand Hispanics. Obvious.

Why do you think she was an illegal?

Where did you get that funny ass moniker?

You are not taken seriously

Pot meet kettle!

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No it's not too stupid a question. Do you believe illegal aliens/ non sovereign citizens who ignored our legal immigration laws breaking into our country should be able to vote in our elections? It's a simple yes or no question. Please answer.

Of course it is a stupid question. Illegal immigrants can't vote in elections and the only people talking about it are crazy right wing radio listeners and fox drones. Just another manufactured outrage based on nothing but teabaggers imagination. Certainly not something for reasonable discussion.

I know I've already asked this but you failed to respond.
Are you of hispanic descent?
I think it's a fair question when someone condones the onslaught of illegals in this country.
You know,just to give us some insight on your motives.

Using your insight, we can see your motives are anti-Hispanic, whether citizen or not.

Wrong. I was engaged to an hispanic girl.
Try again.

And there it is. She broke up with you, she was an illegal, and you cannot stand Hispanics. Obvious.

Nope. But I dont expect you to get anything right Fakey.
As a matter of fact her father served with the US Navy and they are multi generation Americans. And they came to America legally by the way.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Could be a HUGE SLAPDOWN of the obomanations Unconstitutional act!

The Blaze ^
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced late on Monday night that a federal judge has “granted” his request to “halt” President Barack Obama’s “Executive Amnesty Order” across the country. Abbott didn’t immediately offer any other details, but promised for information later.

Office of Gov Abbott Verified account ‏@GovAbbott:
The rule of law has been upheld- President Obama’s Executive Amnesty has been ruled unconstitutional.

not a lawyer, but judging from the injunction posted in the OP, that tweet is very much a lie.

Well, what do you expect. He's the new governor of Texass, picking up where the last governor is still accused of two felonies.


Judge Declines to Dismiss Charges Against Rick Perry
Former Texas Governor Faces Possible Trial, Complicating Prospects for Another Presidential Race
Updated Jan. 27, 2015 6:16 p.m. ET
Judge Won t Dismiss Charges Against Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry - WSJ


It must PAIN the Wall Street Journal to publish that article. But they aren't Fox News.

 

[BULLDOG]

The post I quoted that included "temporary legal status" was your post. I never used that term. You did, and your use is inaccurate. There are too many here to deport all of them at once, so some sort of priority must be determined for deportations. Any sane person would agree that violent criminals should be the first group to concentrate on, and families who are working and raising their kids, and are virtually undistinguishable from any other normal family should be left for later. This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. They aren't at least as advantageous to the country as citizens, they don't qualify for the deferral. If the crazy house would have allowed a vote on immigration reform, this wouldn't be necessary anyway. I know you have already heard all of this many times before, but you would rather make dumb statements than look at the reality of what this is.

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

No contradiction at all. How does one preclude the other? Why do you think an executive order can only deal with one aspect of a problem? That's just silly.

So you are saying that the EO is a route for the illegal immigrants to become citizens? And you really think that is not a contradiction to it just being a deferral of deportation!!!! Oh my goodness!

I never said it was just one or the other. It is just a combination of the two. This isn't complicated.

 

[BULLDOG]

If illegal immigrants are being issued valid social security numbers in response to the EO then what you say is not true.

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

Also, if the EO simply deferred deportation, it would not make illegal immergrants eligible for Texas drivers licenses (assuming that they are in Texas).

Because it doesn't simply defer deportation. It defers deportation and offers a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. Didn't you read my earlier post?

So you are implying that our immigration system is an unreasonable route to citizenship. Interesting view you democrats have. Maybe we should just open the door to all immigration and let your democrat constituents beg for jobs at minimum wage if they are willing to work harder than everyone we let in.

You might want to check to see how long that takes from Mexico. European countries are processed much quicker. You know this only effects people already here don't you?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Which part?

"This is nothing more than a deferral of deportation for those families until the bad guys are dealt with, and a reasonable rout for them to become citizens."

In fact, the second part of that sentence contradicts the first part. If the EO is simply a deferral of deportation, then it cannot also be a route for them to become citizens. Let's overlook that contradiction for the moment. If executive order were simply a deferral of deportion then it would not include legal access to things like social security numbers to be able to legally worn in the USA ( even if they are already working here illegally).

Also, if the EO simply deferred deportation, it would not make illegal immergrants eligible for Texas drivers licenses (assuming that they are in Texas).

Because it doesn't simply defer deportation. It defers deportation and offers a reasonable rout for them to become citizens. Didn't you read my earlier post?

So you are implying that our immigration system is an unreasonable route to citizenship. Interesting view you democrats have. Maybe we should just open the door to all immigration and let your democrat constituents beg for jobs at minimum wage if they are willing to work harder than everyone we let in.

You might want to check to see how long that takes from Mexico. European countries are processed much quicker. You know this only effects people already here don't you?

Whats that have to do with anything?
And you failed to answer yet again...so which are you?
A subversive La Raza member or a deck stacking dem?