Texas to arrest Sanctuary City Leaders, Police Chiefs, etc...

[The Sage of Main Street]

What is it about the word "illegal" you don't get?

illegal to it.

Is that a phrase?

federal law is federal law; we don't need to have any priorities, because the right wing, simply "hates illegals".

I don't hate illegals; most of them are very nice people.
But they have been part of the upset of America's economic structure.

Are you sure you are "independent" and not merely on the right wing?

Why do you believe illegal immigration is a problem in the US, under our form of Capitalism?

The United States is the world's largest national economy in nominal terms and second largest according to purchasing power parity (PPP), representing 22% of nominal global GDP and 17% of gross world product (GWP).[4] The United States' GDP was estimated to be $18.56 trillion in 2016.--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States

Traders Are Traitors

Every office on Wall Street has a portrait of Vidkun Quisling.

 

[JoeB131]

And yet car deaths and injuries are MUCH higher and you never complain. Further your count includes suicides which no amount of law will stop.

We'd have a hard time getting by without cars...

Which aren't designed to kill people.

We'd be fine without guns... which are designed to kill people.

 

[JoeB131]

It culls the herd.

Especially in the inner cities, where pruning-back of feral riff-raff is a Win-Win.

Seriously. Seek professional help.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia; it was the Roman way, it should the way, of the Militia of the United States.

I would not mind seeing a sort of National Service, instead of a volunteer military where there is a growing separation between the people and the troops who protect them.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It culls the herd.

Especially in the inner cities, where pruning-back of feral riff-raff is a Win-Win.

Seriously. Seek professional help.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia; it was the Roman way, it should the way, of the Militia of the United States.

I would not mind seeing a sort of National Service, instead of a volunteer military where there is a growing separation between the people and the troops who protect them.

So when you wish death on someone it is fine but when someone notes that someone deserved to die it is bad?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet car deaths and injuries are MUCH higher and you never complain. Further your count includes suicides which no amount of law will stop.

We'd have a hard time getting by without cars...

Which aren't designed to kill people.

We'd be fine without guns... which are designed to kill people.

Firearms deaths have gone down with the introduction of more firearms and more liberal carry laws, fact.

 

[Kondor3]

It culls the herd.

Especially in the inner cities, where pruning-back of feral riff-raff is a Win-Win.

Seriously. Seek professional help.

Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia; it was the Roman way, it should the way, of the Militia of the United States.

I would not mind seeing a sort of National Service, instead of a volunteer military where there is a growing separation between the people and the troops who protect them.

There is no growing separation between the troops and those they protect.

There is the closest possible sympatico between White Suburbia and the National Guard troops which protect it from feral inner-city riff-raff.

 

[MaryL]

We voted for Trump, sorry kids, he may be a misogynist swine, but Obama opened the floodgates on uncritical voters. Sorry. Politicians are supposed to represent Us and ask US if we want to give illegals a sanctuary, instead of them blithely imposing it on Us without permission. It's still a democratic republic, and there is NO excuse for that, it's outrageous.

dear, States have no authority over Immigration into the Union since 1808.

And, health and safety and security, makes first degrees going first, both necessary and proper.

Implied by the Tenth Amendment

When the Feds don't fulfill their obligations, they forfeit their authority and it passes down to the states. If an outside guard sleeps on his watch, it is up to the inside guard to stop those breaking and entering.

I don't recall that clause in the Constitution. Perhaps you could link it.

Excuse me, but what does that have to do with local or state officials arbitrarily creating safe haven for criminals WITHOUT voter consent ? Shouldn't they ASK US what we want, first? Such a monumental decision made unilaterally. Please, don't duck this question with a bunch of double talk.

 

[Vandalshandle]

And yet car deaths and injuries are MUCH higher and you never complain. Further your count includes suicides which no amount of law will stop.

We'd have a hard time getting by without cars...

Which aren't designed to kill people.

We'd be fine without guns... which are designed to kill people.

We require drivers to be licensed, and show proficiency. Can are mandated to have safety features, more every year. The NRA will not allow that" Smart guns" be mandated.

 

[Vandalshandle]

We voted for Trump, sorry kids, he may be a misogynist swine, but Obama opened the floodgates on uncritical voters. Sorry. Politicians are supposed to represent Us and ask US if we want to give illegals a sanctuary, instead of them blithely imposing it on Us without permission. It's still a democratic republic, and there is NO excuse for that, it's outrageous.

dear, States have no authority over Immigration into the Union since 1808.

And, health and safety and security, makes first degrees going first, both necessary and proper.

Implied by the Tenth Amendment

When the Feds don't fulfill their obligations, they forfeit their authority and it passes down to the states. If an outside guard sleeps on his watch, it is up to the inside guard to stop those breaking and entering.

I don't recall that clause in the Constitution. Perhaps you could link it.

Excuse me, but what does that have to do with local or state officials arbitrarily creating safe haven for criminals WITHOUT voter consent ? Shouldn't they ASK US what we want, first? Such a monumental decision made unilaterally. Please, don't duck this question with a bunch of double talk.

Mary, I have tried to explain to you several times that there is no such thing as a "safe haven" for illegal aliens in "Sanctuary cities". I will ask you, yet again. Do you know what the definition of Sanctuary city is? Please turn off your AM radio.

 

[WEATHER53]

Sanctuary cities are new enough to have no standard definition
What they are is a proclaimed location where lawbreakers can be shielded from the responsibility of their lawlessness via interference with, or lack of cooperation to, immigration authorities

 

[MaryL]

We voted for Trump, sorry kids, he may be a misogynist swine, but Obama opened the floodgates on uncritical voters. Sorry. Politicians are supposed to represent Us and ask US if we want to give illegals a sanctuary, instead of them blithely imposing it on Us without permission. It's still a democratic republic, and there is NO excuse for that, it's outrageous.

dear, States have no authority over Immigration into the Union since 1808.

And, health and safety and security, makes first degrees going first, both necessary and proper.

Implied by the Tenth Amendment

When the Feds don't fulfill their obligations, they forfeit their authority and it passes down to the states. If an outside guard sleeps on his watch, it is up to the inside guard to stop those breaking and entering.

I don't recall that clause in the Constitution. Perhaps you could link it.

Excuse me, but what does that have to do with local or state officials arbitrarily creating safe haven for criminals WITHOUT voter consent ? Shouldn't they ASK US what we want, first? Such a monumental decision made unilaterally. Please, don't duck this question with a bunch of double talk.

Mary, I have tried to explain to you several times that there is no such thing as a "safe haven" for illegal aliens in "Sanctuary cities". I will ask you, yet again. Do you know what the definition of Sanctuary city is? Please turn off your AM radio.

Really? There is no safe haven for illegals? I am astonished at the bold faced denial in that statement. Yes, there is! I have seen it myself. I have been to an INS office about this issue. Reagan de-fanged and emasculated the INS in the 80's. By Their own admission. Why? I leave that up to your own judgement. I can only guess the real reasons WHY.
So, let me restate this again: YES, local and state officials are making policies that favor non enforcement of Federal immigration laws. And a lot of US WANT the state to follow federal immigration laws. Why NOT?

 

[Wyatt earp]

And yet car deaths and injuries are MUCH higher and you never complain. Further your count includes suicides which no amount of law will stop.

We'd have a hard time getting by without cars...

Which aren't designed to kill people.

We'd be fine without guns... which are designed to kill people.

Why would we have a hard time getting by with out cars?


Guns are not designed to kill people,

With that same logic a chainsaw is designed to kill people

.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Texas is seeking to do the same thing Mexico does.....keep out the illegals.

 

[MaryL]

So, let me restate this again: YES, local and state officials are making policies that favor non enforcement of Federal immigration laws. And a lot of US WANT the state to follow federal immigration laws. Why NOT? And We, the PEOPLE aren't being consulted on this. It's like the tail wagging the dog here. We tell THEM what WE want, not the other way' round.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Sanctuary cities are new enough to have no standard definition
What they are is a proclaimed location where lawbreakers can be shielded from the responsibility of their lawlessness via interference with, or lack of cooperation to, immigration authorities

So that is the definition of a term that has no definition?

No matter. It is still BS. First of all, interference with immigration authorities in enforcing the law is a felony, and not one single one of these cities has a policy to commit felonies, nor has anyone ever been charged for that crime in city government by immigration authorities. Second, "lack of cooperation" does not correctly describe my failure to do your job, which is not my responsibility. That is the equivalent of me declining to mow your lawn for free, when you ask me to. By your definition, my refusal to mow your lawn is "uncooperative".

 

[Vandalshandle]

dear, States have no authority over Immigration into the Union since 1808.

And, health and safety and security, makes first degrees going first, both necessary and proper.

Implied by the Tenth Amendment

When the Feds don't fulfill their obligations, they forfeit their authority and it passes down to the states. If an outside guard sleeps on his watch, it is up to the inside guard to stop those breaking and entering.

I don't recall that clause in the Constitution. Perhaps you could link it.

Excuse me, but what does that have to do with local or state officials arbitrarily creating safe haven for criminals WITHOUT voter consent ? Shouldn't they ASK US what we want, first? Such a monumental decision made unilaterally. Please, don't duck this question with a bunch of double talk.

Mary, I have tried to explain to you several times that there is no such thing as a "safe haven" for illegal aliens in "Sanctuary cities". I will ask you, yet again. Do you know what the definition of Sanctuary city is? Please turn off your AM radio.

Really? There is no safe haven for illegals? I am astonished at the bold faced denial in that statement. Yes, there is! I have seen it myself. I have been to an INS office about this issue. Reagan de-fanged and emasculated the INS in the 80's. By Their own admission. Why? I leave that up to your own judgement. I can only guess the real reasons WHY.
So, let me restate this again: YES, local and state officials are making policies that favor non enforcement of Federal immigration laws. And a lot of US WANT the state to follow federal immigration laws. Why NOT?

Mary, I give up on you. You simply do not know what the hell you are talking about. You do not know what a sanctuary city is, and you can not name a single specific policy that a city has that makes it a "sanctuary city", other than the fact that somebody called it that name. You can not even tell me exactly what a city does to earn that title.

 

[MaryL]

Implied by the Tenth Amendment

When the Feds don't fulfill their obligations, they forfeit their authority and it passes down to the states. If an outside guard sleeps on his watch, it is up to the inside guard to stop those breaking and entering.

I don't recall that clause in the Constitution. Perhaps you could link it.

Excuse me, but what does that have to do with local or state officials arbitrarily creating safe haven for criminals WITHOUT voter consent ? Shouldn't they ASK US what we want, first? Such a monumental decision made unilaterally. Please, don't duck this question with a bunch of double talk.

Mary, I have tried to explain to you several times that there is no such thing as a "safe haven" for illegal aliens in "Sanctuary cities". I will ask you, yet again. Do you know what the definition of Sanctuary city is? Please turn off your AM radio.

Really? There is no safe haven for illegals? I am astonished at the bold faced denial in that statement. Yes, there is! I have seen it myself. I have been to an INS office about this issue. Reagan de-fanged and emasculated the INS in the 80's. By Their own admission. Why? I leave that up to your own judgement. I can only guess the real reasons WHY.
So, let me restate this again: YES, local and state officials are making policies that favor non enforcement of Federal immigration laws. And a lot of US WANT the state to follow federal immigration laws. Why NOT?

Mary, I give up on you. You simply do not know what the hell you are talking about. You do not know what a sanctuary city is, and you can not name a single specific policy that a city has that makes it a "sanctuary city", other than the fact that somebody called it that name. You can not even tell me exactly what a city does to earn that title.

Good lord. Aren't you special?

 

[toobfreak]

We'd be fine without guns... which are designed to kill people.

I'll give you that the basic function of a firearm is offense/defense, but be fine without guns? Maybe in some fantasy idealistic world, but in reality, some people will always have guns and intend aggression against others. If you give up yours, that only make you an easier victim. Remember, the police are on average between 10 to 20 minutes away. Of course you could always try disarming everyone by force! If no one had guns, right? That's what I want the government coming and kicking in my doors taking my guns away while pointing guns at me. Then everyone would be disarmed--- except the government! Study your history--- how has THAT worked out anywhere tried? When the gov has all the guns and all the power, you have a POLICE STATE, the one condition most known for the greatest crimes against humanity in the history of the planet!

Oh! What a huge disconnect between the wishful dreams of idealism and the harsh reality of the actual world.

 

[Vandalshandle]

We'd be fine without guns... which are designed to kill people.

I'll give you that the basic function of a firearm is offense/defense, but be fine without guns? Maybe in some fantasy idealistic world, but in reality, some people will always have guns and intend aggression against others. If you give up yours, that only make you an easier victim. Remember, the police are on average between 10 to 20 minutes away. Of course you could always try disarming everyone by force! If no one had guns, right? That's what I want the government coming and kicking in my doors taking my guns away while pointing guns at me. Then everyone would be disarmed--- except the government! Study your history--- how has THAT worked out anywhere tried? When the gov has all the guns and all the power, you have a POLICE STATE, the one condition most known for the greatest crimes against humanity in the history of the planet!

Oh! What a huge disconnect between the wishful dreams of idealism and the harsh reality of the actual world.

And yet your argument is against guns being banned and confiscated by the government, which is a position that I have never heard voiced in this country by anyone.

 

[MaryL]

Uhm, so like I asked before, so why can't our local state and city officials ask Us IF we want to enforce or ignore federal immigration laws? People like to condescend about the constitution, or they said this and that. BUT this was never given over to the voters to decide. Isn't that outside of democracy? Who does that threaten, after all?