Thanks Biden, the Terrorists are beheading our allies again.

[Rigby5]

Don't be stupid. Ambassadors do that kind of thing all the time... or maybe you didn't know Mass General is in Boston.

Just quit while you're ahead. You don't know anything about Libya or Gaddafi or Benghazi.

It wasn't about weapons. Libya was awash in weapons. Gaddafi had been on two billion dollar shopping sprees in the 2 years prior.

Yes I know Mass General is in Boston, but my point was Mass General would have no interest or reason to open something in Benghazi, unless it was for trials that would be illegal in the US.
US hospitals are not philanthropic, but entirely profit motivated and based.

I only have 3rd hand info on Libya, but I believe they are tribal behind the scenes, and the Berber elders likely picked Qaddafi as their front.
I don't believe he took or held power on his own.
And I believe Benghazi was mostly Egyptians and other refugees who were a threat to the Berber elders.
Which is why we were pouring money and weapons into Benghazi.
The weapons Qaddafi had would not have been accessible to the Benghazi rebels at the time Stevens was there.
They only got those weapons later, after Qaddafi was defeated and killed.

 

[Rigby5]

No wonder Muslims are protesting their governments.

Most governments in Moslem countries were set up by the west, like General Sisi in Egypt.

 

[Rigby5]

God, you are full of shit.

You have to admit that Moslems were never unified, such as the Shia/Sunni split right after Mohammad's death, and Wahhabism is really very tribal in my opinion.
The conquests of the Mamelukes, Mongols, Mughals, Moors, and Turks can not really be attributed to Islam.

 

[Donald H]

Was it a politically warranted execution of a traitor?

America is guilty of executing hundreds, if not thousands during it's many wars. So far the Taliban appears to be selective as it abides by the deal to not kill Americans who are being freely permitted to leave the country.

Has there ever been such a peaceful and cooperative end to any war in history?

It's just not being fair to begrudge the Taliban some small revenge against those they see as traitors.

 

[struth]

Wrong.
Taliban never torture.
Only the US does that.
Taliban have never stoned any woman.
Stoning is PROHIBITED in the Quran.
Stoning is done by ignorant tribal people, like in Saudi Arabia, but not by Quran scholars like the Taliban.

hahaha of course they do….ask any women that made it out of there

 

[struth]

Wrong.
A suicide bomb requires truth belief and dedication, so can't easily be abused and it almost always then ethical out of dedication.
The US risks nothing when it uses a drone to launch a Hellfire missile on civilians, so requires no moral beliefs at all.
In fact, it requires a lack of moral beliefs of any kind.

From a practical perspective, you can always search people, look for packages, etc. so suicide bombing can be prevented.
There is absolutely no way to prevent a drone strike, and it is almost always totally unethical because it can't pick targets nearly as carefully.

When the perpetrator faces risk, it automatically precludes lots immoral motivations, like greed.

hahaa there is nothing ethical about bombing innocent people sitting in a cafe, having lunch, because your religion tells you

 

[dblack]

Let me guess, the peaceful religion?

Mostly.

 

[Borillar]

Taliban celebrate beheading of Afghan soldier in grisly video

EXCLUSIVE — The Taliban beheaded an Afghan soldier, then chanted praise to their leader while holding the severed head of their victim by his hair in a video posted in a private Taliban chat room.

www.yahoo.com

But their propaganda minister claims that they aren't hurting anyone and that we shouldn't care about what they are doing.

And we should care because? Fuck Afghanistan. It was a shithole country before we went there. It was a shithole country for the 20 years we were there. It is a shithole country now that we are gone and after a trillion dollars spent on it and thousands of lives lost. Let them go back to cutting each other's heads off. They've been doing it for thousands of years.

 

[surada]

Yes I know Mass General is in Boston, but my point was Mass General would have no interest or reason to open something in Benghazi, unless it was for trials that would be illegal in the US.
US hospitals are not philanthropic, but entirely profit motivated and based.

I only have 3rd hand info on Libya, but I believe they are tribal behind the scenes, and the Berber elders likely picked Qaddafi as their front.
I don't believe he took or held power on his own.
And I believe Benghazi was mostly Egyptians and other refugees who were a threat to the Berber elders.
Which is why we were pouring money and weapons into Benghazi.
The weapons Qaddafi had would not have been accessible to the Benghazi rebels at the time Stevens was there.
They only got those weapons later, after Qaddafi was defeated and killed.

Jesus, are you calling Mass General a liar. Libya had NO emergency services.. Countries do these outreach things all the time. Where the hell are you from that you don't know that?

 

[surada]

hahaha of course they do….ask any women that made it out of there

How many Afghan women have you talked to?

 

[struth]

How many Afghan women have you talked to?

about a dozen

 

[Colin norris]

Cutting off heads is a millions times less painful than the electrocutions or suffocations the US uses routinely.

I've never experienced it so I take your expert advice.

 

[HappyJoy]

Do you seriosly try to discuss about why Hitler did do what? I guess he liked to attack Stalin and Poland was between Russia and Germany and had to be eliminated, that's why. Hitler was a pragmatist and he said he learned to lie from an US-American president, which was perhaps a lie or not or not both of them.



Which "during"? This was the beginning.



The USA knows always very well how to tell themselve lies and to believe in the own lies. Many people from the USA had supported once the revolution in Russia, because it was part of republican and democratic ideas to eliminate nobles and many thought about the French revolution in this context. So the communistic-capitalistic world conspiracy theory of the Nazis convinced unfortunatelly many people and was a main motor for the anti-Semitism of the Nazis. They made in theory a bridge from rich capitalistic Jews of the USA to the poor proletarians Jews in Russia.



Touchy? ... I forgot. For you I am "only" a Red Indian and the only good Red Indian you ever saw was dead. The USA is tear-stained if some US-Americans die - but if you kill millions of people from foreign nations then this is totally unimportant for you. Believe it or not: It exist many reasons why many people in the world hate the USA. Only because Germans and Japanese don't do so you should not make wrong conclusions about the greatness or lousiness of the USA.

If you want to defend Hitler then go ahead.

 

[Rigby5]

hahaa there is nothing ethical about bombing innocent people sitting in a cafe, having lunch, because your religion tells you

You would have to not only be more specific as to a particular time and place where a supposed terrrorist attack took place, but also have to prove it was not a deliberate CIA event in order to cause panic and promote good US PR.

 

[Rigby5]

Jesus, are you calling Mass General a liar. Libya had NO emergency services.. Countries do these outreach things all the time. Where the hell are you from that you don't know that?

The US has some of the worst health care access in the world, so it is hard to believe that a profit oriented corporation like the one that owns Mass General, would be working so hard to improve health care in Benghazi, a place where we happen to want to contact mercenaries and funnel in weapons and money?

 

[Rigby5]

about a dozen

And all the women I have talked to from Afghanistan, did not like the Taliban, but thought they were fair and honest.
Being too strict is the least of the problems Afghanistan has.
The Taliban are by far the best of the worst.

 

[Rigby5]

If you want to defend Hitler then go ahead.

The point is Hitler was following orders.
He was not particularly anti socialist or anti communists, we can tell from his early days hanging around with socialists and communists.
But after the wealthy elite picked him as their representative front, he was very careful to then always be anti socialist and anti communist.

 

[struth]

You would have to not only be more specific as to a particular time and place where a supposed terrrorist attack took place, but also have to prove it was not a deliberate CIA event in order to cause panic and promote good US PR.

there have been many…US Cole, twice at the WTC, in places all over Israel, Europe, snd the United States

 

[HappyJoy]

The point is Hitler was following orders.
He was not particularly anti socialist or anti communists, we can tell from his early days hanging around with socialists and communists.
But after the wealthy elite picked him as their representative front, he was very careful to then always be anti socialist and anti communist.

He was what?

What is wrong with this fucking forum?

 

[surada]

The US has some of the worst health care access in the world, so it is hard to believe that a profit oriented corporation like the one that owns Mass General, would be working so hard to improve health care in Benghazi, a place where we happen to want to contact mercenaries and funnel in weapons and money?

Gaddafi built hospitals with no equipment and no doctors.. He was half assed about a lot of things.

They certainly had no emergency services so this was an outreach thing by Mass General.. and not so unusual an arrangement in the ME.